NYTimes Magazine: “Was the College Football Season Worth It”

Submitted by ChalmersE on December 30th, 2020 at 1:43 PM

Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/30/magazine/college-football-pandemic.html

The long article may be paywalled:  The focus is largely on Kevin Warren and OSU’s Smith. Little discussion of other teams except mentions of the Nebraska lawsuit and economics at schools like Iowa.The only mentions of Michigan was the fact that the initial cancellation endangered the Brown Jug game (no mention that B1G schedule now omits the game many years).  And, that OSU initially tried to get a rematch with Indiana to qualify for the Championship game when “mediocre” Michigan had to cancel because of COVID positivity.  The article’s answer to the question posed is inconclusive, but seems to be on the side of NO.

Buy Bushwood

December 30th, 2020 at 2:48 PM ^

Now I'm not sure about 99/100.  But they are definitely more factual than most outlets.  How do I know this- to head off your snark- is that they actually reference verifiable facts in their works.  That's right, anyone can follow links in their articles to verify their references, or request references.    They clearly follow an old, esteemed journalistic tradition in which their editors verify sources prior to publishing. Thus, unlike many outlets, they don't end up publishing innuendo and rumor.  They also issue corrections when provably challenged.  They make mistakes, as they did in the run-up to the Iraq war. But they also directly take accountability for mistakes.  You never see that out of some news outlets.  Lastly, there is a reason they are the most desirable job in the world of journalism.  They are understood to be one of the world's very best, and it's a career goal for many of the best journalists to work for the Times.  

gruden

December 30th, 2020 at 3:03 PM ^

It's interesting how people and institutions can coast for many years on a reputation built in the past, which may no longer be true but still gets credit for it.

Bari Weiss has some interesting views about the NYT, having worked there herself.  The Grey Lady is a pale visage of what she used to be.

https://heavy.com/news/2020/07/bari-weiss-resignation-letter-nytimes/

bronxblue

December 30th, 2020 at 3:20 PM ^

Or maybe people at NYT didn't like Bari Weiss because she misleadingly live-tweeted internal discussions about a controversial Op-Ed they ran for Tom Cotton, cited a fake Twitter account as justification for her take, and various other missteps.  NYT has problems and they aren't perfect, but uncritically taking Bari Weiss's word for it doesn't really move the needle.

Robbie Moore

December 30th, 2020 at 5:46 PM ^

So, I get it. Bari Weiss questions the deity and is excommunicated. Then the excommunication is justified by "misleading live tweeted internal discussions" and citing a "fake twitter account."

She is a progressive! She worked for years at the NYT! And now she is a heretic. Burn her (professionally) at the stake!!! 

Not the way I would like to see decent people treated.

Buy Bushwood

December 31st, 2020 at 2:41 PM ^

To me, this kind of argument is very much that of the modern GOP.  Find one example of something, one person to make a claim or one case of something like voter fraud, and then use it to justify a view of a global or systemic corruption. Unfortunately, that isn't how things actually work. It's just a tired, intellectually lazy methodology based on emotion, not fact or science.    

mackbru

December 30th, 2020 at 2:05 PM ^

Asking that question is legitimate and hardly clickbait. God I hate when people blame "the media" as if it's all one thing. There's legitimate media and there's shit media. The NYT is legitimate in that it tends to be right a lot more than it's wrong. Then there's shit media like Fox News, which is propaganda. Don't be so lazy.

pdgoblue25

December 30th, 2020 at 1:52 PM ^

The players for the most part seemed like they wanted to play, that should stand for something. 

The obvious answers are "yes" to the people who made money off of it, and to the one school/fan base that wins it all.  Probably a "no" for everyone else.

schreibee

December 30th, 2020 at 2:28 PM ^

Just to be intellectually forthright, if the OP had posted an article from Fox or NewsMax, I'd trash it without having read it.

I think we've arrived at the point we have because those who respond "It's ALL just clickbait" literally believe Fox, Newsmax etc apply the same set of journalistic standards as the NYT (in fact they may even feel they're higher!)

bronxblue

December 30th, 2020 at 3:34 PM ^

If NewsMax could find someone capable of writing coherently for more than a couple of paragraphs I'd read it.  This article is mostly a review of the past 4-5 months and the various machinations that led to the season, with particular focus on the Big 10's decision to delay-then-start the season.  I know it's inconvenient for some to accept that 2,000+ people have been dying from COVID-19 every day basically since December (and has been on an uptick since October) started but it has, and while that isn't primarily due to college football it certainly hasn't helped limit the mass gatherings that have been shown to spread the disease.

 

RGard

December 30th, 2020 at 1:55 PM ^

I don't know.  We needed some coaching changes.  Got one at least as a partial result of the covid impacted season.  Wasn't fun to watch as a Michigan fan.

Overall?  No for me, but probably yes for the kids playing the game.  I'll defer to their assessment.

Catchafire

December 30th, 2020 at 2:06 PM ^

It seemed like a lot of them checked out of the season early... not just Michigan. Who wants to get tested every day?  The back and forth with poor leadership was silly.  The BIG10 took a big hit in credibility.  Twice they broke their own rules to accommodate OSU.

No. This season was ass.

gruden

December 30th, 2020 at 3:11 PM ^

I think it shows the season had value for those who had something to play for.  OSU was willing to run the gauntlet, they had something to play for.

Along those lines it showed which coaches could motivate their players.  Fitzgerald and Allen got theirs to play hard every game, even though everyone knows they have to go through OSU for a championship. 

For Harbaugh, hopefully he observes that while it may be nice to march on the streets with your players in solidarity, it takes much more than that to keep them focused during the season.

Go for two

December 30th, 2020 at 2:10 PM ^

Being a Michigan fan this year was totally embarrassing but I feel if we didn’t play, next year would have been more of the same. I am anxious to see the coaching and strategy changes for next year. Northwestern moved the ball very well on Ohio by going up tempo. I have watched Tom Brady completely change games for many years by going up tempo when nothing is working. Gary Moeller went up tempo one year and they scored on every first drive that year. We never scored first all year and looked like we were not ready until the second quarter all year. Sure would be nice to get a lead in the first half

Carpetbagger

December 30th, 2020 at 2:50 PM ^

If for nothing else, this year revealed serious issues in Michigan's coaching staff that hopefully will get resolved in the off-season. And I think many of us recognized this year would be a wash once the Big Ten decided they were smarter than everyone else and screwed with any chance of most teams having a legitimate slate of games like the ACC, Big 12 and SEC did.

Next year will be "normal" and no one will really remember Harbaugh went 2-4 in this crazy Covid year if he can win 10 games and/or beat OSU.

JonathanE

December 31st, 2020 at 7:40 AM ^

We sent five linemen to the NFL. We had a brand new starting QB. Those two facts alone meant that under normal circumstances this was going to be a rebuild year. With no spring practice, social distancing and a limited training camp it was a mess. 

The good news is that the line needed that limited experience for this coming season. Assuming a full spring practice, off season work out program and fall training camp, the team should be night and day better. 

The defense needed a change. Assuming they hire a competent DC, it should be a back to normal season for Michigan. Next season Ohio will be breaking in a new QB so who knows how things will turn out.

MaizeBlueA2

December 30th, 2020 at 2:00 PM ^

Eh...I guess so. But not really, too many games were canceled across the country. Some teams played 11, others played 4. That said, from a money perspective, they had to do it.

I would've preferred everyone play 4 in the fall and 4 in January/ February, then bowls and and 8-team CFP, etc.

Basketball shouldn't have started until late January though. Should've let everyone go home for the holidays and then go late January to May Madness. 

MaizeBlueA2

December 30th, 2020 at 2:12 PM ^

To be clear, my "want" was for EVERYONE to start on Oct. 3 and then play every other Saturday.

Oct. 3

Oct. 17

Oct. 31

Nov. 14

...then an "if necessary" make-up weeks on Nov. 28 and Dec. 12.

Then let the guys go home for the holidays and be with their families.

Come back on Jan. 4 and have a 2-week camp/preseason before the 5th game on January 23. Go every week, with 2 weeks for make-up games.

Jan. 16

Jan. 23

Jan. 30

Feb. 6

...then "if necessary" make-up weeks on Feb. 13 and Febuary 20.

Championship games on the 27th.

Semifinals and NY6 bowls on March 13, CFP National Championship on March 27th.

No spring ball for anyone...everyone, regardless of a bowl practices through March and then shuts it down until fall like normal. 

 

 

chunkums

December 30th, 2020 at 2:04 PM ^

I don't know if it was "worth it," but fans of ten of the fourteen B1G teams were probably pretty miserable this year. That's how many teams had .500 or worse records.

Qmatic

December 30th, 2020 at 2:04 PM ^

I mean it is going to end the same way a 12 game season would have ended. Same 4 teams in the playoffs with Alabama and Clemson in the championship game.