Per NY Gov. Cuomo: no fans at fall college sporting events
Link: https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/29510452/no-fans-fall-college-sports-state-new-york
Shouldn't be a surprise at this point, but now official.
I'm just wondering if there will be players on the field.
If so, we'll be good.
Rutgers has complied with this directive for years
But if the athletes want to go and hangout at nursing homes that'll be just fine.
/s
Funny joke - maybe you can share some of your catalog on pedophilia and cancer
A priest and a rabbi are on an airplane taking childhood leukemia patients to Disneyland...
...the aristocrats!
Not sure what is actually accomplished by not allowing students in the stands, but since i'm not a student I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.
They will just have to get their covid from the party on Friday night as opposed to the game on Saturday.
Governmental officials will typically prefer doing something as opposed to nothing.
It's probably as simple as that. The illusion of action.
I agree with you, there's not a huge incremental risk of allowing students to attend, say, a University of Buffalo football game where attendance is capped at 25% capacity.
In my experience, it seems like UB games have been capped at 25% attendance for years (ba dum tiss).
But on a serious note, students obviously wouldn't social distance in the student section at UB or Syracuse so this ban will just force them to not social distance at house parties instead. I suppose the difference is whether the inevitable non-social distancing occurs at university sanctioned events or not
I stole this from Twitter, but desperate politician in 3 steps: 1) we must do something, 2) this is something, 3) we must do this
Will be interesting to see how he deals with the travel restrictions certain states are under and how that applies to incoming college athletes. The current 14 day quarantine can't work.
I'd guess they'd give college athletes an exemption (like they have done for pro athletes).
Besides, I would guess the percentage of people following that directive right now is about 0.001%.
As for the NY Governor was in Georgia just yesterday, and was photographed hugging people while not wearing a mask. The event he was at, it could fairly be said that his presence at that event was not essential. NY delivered some PPE equipment to Savannah but it's not like the NY Governor had to be there himself.
Now, he says "I don't have to quarantine on my return" because he was in Georgia for less than 24 hours. And that is technically true, per the letter of his directive.
The hug and non-mask wearing, though, are worthy of a few eye rolls.
I generally think Cuomo did a good job with New York, but he's got to know the optics of that are terrible. He can 'offer support' for the governor of Savannah from Albany. This is just low hanging fruit for his critics
I get it - many of us have cabin fever to a degree. It's a nice diversion to leave NYC/Albany for a day. So I don't completely begrudge him the trip.
But he had to know the cameras are there and the hug/non-mask would be noticed!!! Frankly, that was just dumb (on his part)!
Anyway, with a mask and no hug, his trip did follow my general philosophy (and what I wish would be consistent messaging among all governmental folks): "moderate but don't completely eliminate your social interactions, while wearing a mask when inside indoor businesses. Businesses will all be allowed to open, but we encourage them to take all prudent precautions. Capacity caps will be enforced in places where social distancing would be impossible at 100% capacity."
I find it puzzling when people even state optics matter. It's just fodder for the other aisle to point the hypocritical finger across it. Two party systems are inevitable failures but the US system has been competent for a long time, now it is crumbling....
I guess I view it from a managerial perspective more than politics. I work in a union environment (so it can have the same sort of political feel sometimes) and you just gotta know that if you tell everyone something is important and do a, b, and c and then you get caught not appearing to follow your own rules, you're gonna hear about it. Not a smart move from a leadership perspective for the governor
Case in point. Yesterday POTUS tweets picture of himself wearing mask and claiming it's patriotic, then walks across the street to his hotel and starts shaking hands and backslapping everyone in the lobby, while, you guessed it, not wearing a mask.
Weird, I know. It's like all politicians play by their own rules.
Let me reword part of your comment: “...the US system has been corrupt for a long time, now it is being exposed.”
"Cuomo did a good job with NY"? The families of 32,000+ dead relatives might disagree. Rather than put sick covid patients in the facilities the Feds set up he put the older ones back into nursing homes. 6,000+ dead. Some only ask him about his dating life. Great guy.
The nursing home thing sure looks like a mistake, but New York is currently one of the only ones still holding the line nationally and that's with our nation's largest and most densely populated city anchoring it. Many governors have shown they would've handled the same situation far worse than Cuomo did
This is a ridiculous claim.
User name checks out. DeSantis tempted the gods when he was pounding his chest in self-congratulations a month back specifically citing how great they were doing vs. the New York like predictions for an outbreak in his state. Now they are the epicenter in the US. In times of a seemingly uncontrollable crisis, hubris is not your friend.
Not a fan of any politician at this point given the lack of leadership at all levels of government (from both parties) dealing with the pandemic. Those, however, that at least attempt to discuss the issue scientifically as we learn more about the disease, get a bit more leeway from me than those just hoping/waiting for it to disappear or the vaccine to show up.
NY has nearly 10x deaths/ million than FL.
NY/NJ are the world leaders in covid deaths/pop by a wide wide wide margin.
I believe the discussion was about cases.
Deaths are indeed down as the average age of the infected is lower and we have much better knowledge and a multitude of treatment options for the disease now.
Still, deaths are a lagging metric which means the latest outbreak related deaths in these new states will be weighted toward future statistics, and Florida and other states that started spiking 2-4 weeks ago are now having hospitals hit full capacity which will make it more difficult to treat cases going forward - probably the most dangerous indicator of things going sideways.
It’s hard to compare NY to the rest of the US as NY was hit first and early being a main point of entry to the US, the economic hub and the sheer density.
Florida also had 3 months to prepare and did.... nothing. Considering their attempts to manipulate numbers, I’m doubtful we know the full story on the totality of the issue but I know many of the hospitals in FL, at least in Southern Florida where I have family that are surgeons, are at full capacity and have cancelled all elective surgeries due to lack of space. That does not lead me to believe things are going to get better in the next few weeks.
Lemme know what other state has gotten this under control. New York's had their new cases steady for a few weeks now while most of the rest of the country is going up and up as guys like Kemp and Desantis try to pretend like nothings wrong. After getting hit hard early, we've recovered pretty well up here
Look I get that the numbers now show NY is leveling off... but one could argue the reason things are leveling off is the most vulnerable are, um, well, already dead.
Also, starting to do a deep clean on the subways in May isn’t a good look either. There are some things where I agree that he can say his hands were tied, but you can’t pick and choose when you want to listen to the President and when you don’t. Either you are always going to do what’s best for your people, rules be damned, or you are going to follow the rules.
People tend to get themselves into trouble when you pick and choose and that’s exactly what BOTH sides are doing right now and why the US is such a cluster F.
You can't attribute the steadying of the caseload to a lot of early deaths. It's not like we killed everyone with COVID back in April. New York has recovered because we've generally taken masks and distancing seriously
Big Gretch for one, has shown she would have handled it far worse.
herd immunity works
I agree that he gets way more credit than he deserves because he communicated well, I guess is what people liked.
His was a misguided policy, for sure. It was well-intentioned (meant to prevent a home from disallowing someone to return to their literal home), but not smart of course given the high risk population.
Still all 6,000 nursing home deaths can't be attributed to that policy. Only a fraction of them.
He also badly misinterpreted survey data about where people were living when they were hospitalized (which he interpreted as where they were infected/how well they were sheltering which wasn't the survey question).
He didn't do a great job.
Must not have very high standards considering the fact that New York has the worst per capita death rate in the world. Twice as many died in nursing home there did on 9/11
Of course the nursing home thing looks bad, but the NYC metro got hit hard in the early days of this when lots of people were still insisting it was a hoax. New York and a few states around us are the only handful of states that actually seem to be getting this under control
I don't see the point in going to states if they have a 14-day quarantine restriction. Florida has a 14-day directive for a few states and state troopers are checking people on I-95 as they enter the state. If I'm staying with family, maybe I would go. But if you're staying anywhere that checks ID, I could imagine the hotel can refuse you if you're not there for two weeks.
I'll just stay home and enjoy the beautiful state of Michigan.
Florida is doing this right now? Where are people coming from with more virus than they have?
I'm sure Michigan won't be far behind.
If anyone every had hope of fans attending they're crazy.
Give us football and don't allow fans to make sure it happens.
If there is a season, I wonder if there will be bowl games. What's the point in two teams traveling to play in an empty stadium when you can't go out and see the sights.
Good question. Doubt there would be fans allowed and if there is, it would have to be like fight island in the Bahamas or something. And I don't think many fans would attend even if allowed.
So the question will be whether bowls will want to pay to fly teams somewhere for the TV revenues. Probably the smallest half of them wouldn't do that. Maybe the bigger ones. The new years day bowls and a few others.
Isn't that how 90% of bowl games work already?
A) If you read the actual quote, it's pretty clear that *as of right now*, fans would not be allowed to attend, but doesn't make any sort of declaration for what might happen in the fall.
https://twitter.com/JonCampbellGAN/status/1285645323042512896
B)Fans won't be allowed to attend games in the fall.
C)It's New York. Nobody was going to a college sporting event anyway.
Not many in the state of New York anyways so not sure anyone will notice
The communist totalitarian has spoken. So it Is written. So it shall be done!
Yes the (check notes) publicly elected leader of the state of NY made a public health decision. How dare he!
There are fall college sports in New York?
This guy is a hapless tit
Maybe Gov. Cuomo should hold the games in old folks homes