NCAA's role in concussion-gate
To clarify right off the bat, I do not want to see the NCAA get involved in what is going on right now, because that will only make matters worse for the future. But, I do think that it is pertinent to ask what their role is in this whole ridiculous situation that we now find ourselves in.
Specifically, if the NCAA claims that its focus is on students athletes, their safety, their best interests (which we all know is laughable based on the fact that money > everything else for the NCAA), is there any point at which they could step in and say that the AD, Hoke, and the medical staff at M's handling of the situation on Saturday and thereafter warrants disciplinary action against the university? Again, I don't really want that to happen, because I think that the way that the NCAA hands down discipline does not actually solve any of the actual problems. But even an investigation could prompt the board (which, not sure why they'd need any more reason to be prompted, but at this point I'm not expecting anyone in leadership to step up and make the right decision) to take action against DB/Hoke.
I'm not at all familiar with the NCAA's policies when it comes to student athlete safety, but it would seem that if they are trying to promote their supposed deep concerns for the safety of these kids that they would act when something this outlandish happens.
September 30th, 2014 at 12:33 PM ^
it seriously was not that bad of an incident. Seriously, by any objective standard it has been very seriously overblown. William Gholston was unconscious on the ground for a full minute 2 years ago against OSU and played the rest of the game and nothing was done. Not to say that should have happened but what transpired here was not of the jaw dropping variety.
September 30th, 2014 at 12:34 PM ^
You are delusional. Absolutely delusional.
September 30th, 2014 at 12:40 PM ^
should have taken him out of the game immediately, agreed. He played in 1.5 plays after the hit, and was not touched on either. You could probably find worse instances of coaching negligence of this variety this past weekend on other sidelines if you looked hard enough. Is the attention this is getting reason for the NCAA to mandate specific protocol and clearly set forth the violations for offenses to the coaches and the programs? Sure. And it may lead to that. But this is not going to lead to any "investigation" of Michigan, Hoke, etc.
September 30th, 2014 at 12:50 PM ^
I would love to see the pain brought on Hoke and Brandon. I haven't liked them from the start. Brandon's greed and self gratification are my main concerns. He is incompetent to be a athletic director, CEO or mid-level manager. I can somehow manage to live with "we messed up we're stupid but we are going to get this corrected." But we are stuck with this. I feel so sorry for the players none of those kids should be dealing with this.
September 30th, 2014 at 12:41 PM ^
I was initially concerned about your proclamation that Hoke won't be fired in the other thread as I thought you knew something. You clearly do not.
September 30th, 2014 at 12:41 PM ^
Agreed. The negligence of Brian Kelly and his staff killed a kid, and it got far less attention than this. Hell, most people probably don't even know who Lizzy Seeberg is.
September 30th, 2014 at 12:46 PM ^
What in the fuck kind of comparisons are these? Do you think the Head Coach is directly involved with the logistics of setting up the videotaping of practice? Was Brian Kelly there that night to remove Shembo from Seeberg's room?
The crux of the issue is Brady Hoke was standing feet from his concussed starting quarterback and essentially told him to rub some dirt on it and try to throw another pass.
September 30th, 2014 at 12:56 PM ^
is a mischaracterization. Brian wants Hoke fired. He never wanted Hoke hired. And this Board has been taken along for the ride with this incident. It was a mistake, seriously nothing more than that, and it was corrected pretty quickly. He should probably be fired but not for this. If you want to believe Hoke is some monster for this go ahead but it is not accurate.
September 30th, 2014 at 1:11 PM ^
September 30th, 2014 at 1:18 PM ^
to do with the athletic department not understanding the pulse of the fan base more than anything, and that certainly does go to a disconnect between the program and the fan base. It does not appear that DB knew how quickly this was going to turn on him, or that this issue was going to be spark. Quite frankly, I think Hoke may have been on his way out after the Minnesota game if the Morris thing had not happened. I think that was the conversation that Brandon was ready to have with the fans. Now he is included in the narrative and he has no moves. This is truly bizarre.
September 30th, 2014 at 12:58 PM ^
I'm not seeing a whole lot of difference. Brian Kelly made the decision to practice outside knowing there were extremely high winds and knowing that the videographer would be in that tower. He admitted as much. If anything, it's worse because unlike Hoke, Kelly actually made the concious decision to expose him to that risk.
Regarding your second paragraph, well, given that it's false, I'm not going to address it.
September 30th, 2014 at 12:44 PM ^
I think it has received the appropriate level of coverage. It's not as if the 24/7 news cycle is obsessed with it a la Sandusky. The Gholston thing should've received more coverage. But then, nobody really cares about State.
September 30th, 2014 at 12:34 PM ^
/endrant
September 30th, 2014 at 12:35 PM ^
Concussion-gate has lead to Petition-gate and that has lead to Rally-gate and that will likely lead to Boycott-gate and probably Fire-gate.
September 30th, 2014 at 12:37 PM ^
Water-concussion
September 30th, 2014 at 12:39 PM ^
THIS! 1,000 TIMES THIS!
September 30th, 2014 at 12:41 PM ^
September 30th, 2014 at 12:45 PM ^
September 30th, 2014 at 12:54 PM ^
September 30th, 2014 at 12:45 PM ^
And Concussion-gate is the name of the hotel the team stayed at before the game. I think it works.
September 30th, 2014 at 3:43 PM ^
This is exactly what I posted in another thread about this stupid "concussion-gate." It's so lame. Plus one, Mrs.StephenRKass.
September 30th, 2014 at 12:37 PM ^
So they'll put people with fancy cameras in a booth to review rulings on the field, but nobody thought about putting a medical person in a booth with fancy cameras to look for concussions / serious injuries?
I think there's a real problem with the nature of the game when the attitude of coaches is what Hoke said/almost said about if you're not playing injured you're not playing hard enough.
September 30th, 2014 at 12:38 PM ^
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September 30th, 2014 at 12:38 PM ^
NCAA Bylaws require all schools to have a Concussion Policy. That policy must "ensure" that student-athletes are removed from game/practice if they exhibit the "signs, symptoms or behaviors" of a concussion. It must ensure that if this happens, they are not returned to the game/practice until after receiving evaluation from the medical staff. It must ensure that if the medical staff diagnoses a possible concussion, the player is not returned to the game/practice that day, and may not play/practice until he has been cleared by a doctor.
So it's in the Bylaws, which makes it completely enforcable by the NCAA. They have never done anything like this, but just this summer they had to pay out $75M to settle a concussion lawsuit that alleged they didn't do enough to ensure that players with concussions are protected.
So we have a rule to enforce, and a motive for the NCAA to enforce it.
Who knows what will actually happen. After all, Michigan must have a concussion policy, the only problem is that it didn't "ensure" that Shane Morris was removed from the game appropriately. We will see, I guess.
September 30th, 2014 at 12:47 PM ^
September 30th, 2014 at 12:41 PM ^
has way too much on its plate to deal with individual player injury situations. The enforcement and eligibility offices alone are enormous.
The NCAA can only provide guidelines on player safety, and accepts on a certain level of trust they are followed.
September 30th, 2014 at 12:43 PM ^
September 30th, 2014 at 12:53 PM ^
Intervention-gate. Good idea.
September 30th, 2014 at 2:48 PM ^
September 30th, 2014 at 12:56 PM ^
Two interesting rumblings I've started to see on social media in the last 24 hours (and, of course, mostly from two utterly predictable fanbases): 1 - the whole rest of the nation can be outraged over this, but ANY Michigan fan who is angry is expediently using it to get rid of Brady Hoke for his team's poor performance and doesn't actually care about Shane Morris. We're apparently unique among sports fans in wanting our incompetent coach fired. We also don't give a damn about our players' safety, because we're just generally horrible people. 2 - the NCAA needs to get involved and sanctions need to be a possibility.
So, Michigan fans angry over this just want Hoke gone, while OSU and MSU fans angry over this and calling for the NCAA to investigate have NO underlying motives. LOL
September 30th, 2014 at 2:07 PM ^
while OSU and MSU fans angry over this and calling for the NCAA to investigate have NO underlying motives.
Any MSU fan expressing outrage over how Morris was handled on Saturday is the peak of hypocracy. The Gholston incident was 100X worse than what we saw on Saturday and the collective response from Spartan Nation as the time was essentially, "eh, whatever".
September 30th, 2014 at 9:29 PM ^
I was being sarcastic about them having no underlying motives.
September 30th, 2014 at 1:30 PM ^
There were 55 televized NCAA games Saturday, 110 teams; let us be conservative and and say 5,000 players were in action; So Shane Morris was the ONLY head trauma case missed??? I think this should be Brady's last season, but this is piling on. The AD reacting like the NFL to domestic & child abuse instead of acting. Is firing Brady before seasons' end going to sell any more tickets? Win the B1G? Get to a New Years' Bowl? Beat MSU? Beat Ohio State? No!
September 30th, 2014 at 1:41 PM ^
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September 30th, 2014 at 1:47 PM ^