My Waaay Too Early NCAA '23 Ratings
...have at it.
- No surprise at who made the biggest jump from NCAA '22 (hint: CB #2)
- A reminder for the "youngins," NCAA ratings were before Madden fixed its ratings system. There is no such thing as a player in the 60s (and definitely not 50s) on a Top 25, Power 5 team. In fact, my 73s and 74s are kind of low and those players would get "cut" after a year of recruiting a random 4* over them (who would come in at 76 or 76). Generally speaking, 5*'s were 79-81 (with top 10 guys a little higher), 4*'s were 76-78, 3*s were 74-76. It was waaay too condensed.
- Michigan's offense would be insane.
QB: J.J. McCarthy - 89 (+2)
2. Davis Warren - 81 (+2)
3. Jack Tuttle - 79
4. Alex Orji - 76 (+1)
5. Jayden Denegal - 74 (+1) / Brandon Mann - 73
7. Kendrick Bell - 73
RB: Blake Corum - 98 (+2)
2. Donovan Edwards - 94 (+5)
3. CJ Stokes - 79 (+0) / Kaleel Mullings - 80
5. Cole Cabana - 78 / Isaiah Gash - 77 (+1)
7. Tavierre Dunlap - 75 (+0)
8. Leon Franklin - 74 (+2)
9. Benjamin Hall - 73
RB/WR: Donovan Edwards - 96
2. Cole Cabana - 80
WR: Roman Wilson - 89 (+0)
2. Amorion Walker - 80 (+2)
3. Karmello English - 79
4. Fredrick Moore - 77
WR: Cornelius Johnson - 87 (+0)
2. Darrius Clemons - 81 (+0)
3. Cristian Dixon - 76 (+0)
SLOT: A.J. Henning - 84 (-2) / Tyler Morris - 83
3. Semaj Morgan - 77
4. Eamonn Dennis - 76 (+0)
H-BACK: Max Bredeson - 81 (+2)
TE: Colston Loveland - 84 (+6)
2. Matthew Hibner - 78 (+0) / A.J. Barner - 79
4. Marlin Klein - 76 (+0)
5. Deakon Tonielli - 76 / Zack Marshall - 76
LT: LaDarius Henderson - 88
2. Jeffrey Persi - 83 (+5)
3. Trevor Keegan - 82 (+2)
4. Evan Link - 78
5. Connor Jones - 76 (+2)
LG: Trevor Keegan - 93 (+2)
2. Giovanni El-Hadi - 85 (+1)
3. Amir Herring - 78
4. Nathan Efobi - 77
C: Greg Crippen - 83 (+0) / Drake Nugent - 84
3. Raheem Anderson - 81 (+2)
4. Reece Atteberry - 78 (+0)
RG: Zak Zinter - 97 (+6)
2. Karsen Barnhart - 86 (+1)
3. Andrew Gentry - 78 (+1) / Reece Atteberry - 79 (+0)
5. Dominick Guidice - 75
RT: Karsen Barnhart - 87 (+3) / Trente Jones - 87 (+2)
3. Myles Hinton - 86
4. Andrew Gentry - 79 (+1) / Tristan Bounds - 78 (+1)
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NT: Kenneth Grant - 84 (+2)
2. Cam Goode - 82 (+0)
3. Ike Iwunnah - 74 (+1)
DT: Mason Graham - 88 (+1)
2. Rayshaun Benny - 84 (+1)
3. Trey Pierce - 76
4. Alessandro Lorenzetti - 74
DT/DE: Kris Jenkins - 92 (+2)
2. Rayshaun Benny - 85 (+2)
3. Enow Etta - 78 / Cameron Brandt - 76
5. Brooks Bahr - 75
EDGE: Derrick Moore - 84 (+3) / Braiden McGregor 84 (+2)
3. TJ Guy - 80 (+1)
4. Enow Etta - 79
5. Aymeric Koumba - 76
ILB: Junior Colson - 87 (+1)
2. Nikhai Hill-Green - 83 (-1)
3. Jimmy Rolder - 81 (+2)
4. Micah Pollard - 79 (+2) / Jaydon Hood 79 (+1)
6. Semaj Bridgeman - 77
7. Jason Hewlett - 76 / Hayden Moore - 74
ILB: Michael Barrett - 86 (+3) / Ernest Hausmann - 86
3. Jimmy Rolder - 81 (+2)
4. Micah Pollard - 79 (+2) / Jaydon Hood - 79 (+1)
6. Semaj Bridgeman - 77
7. Jason Hewlett - 76 / Hayden Moore - 74
EDGE/OLB: Jaylen Harrell - 86 (+1) / Josaiah Stewart - 86
3. Joey Velasquez - 77 (+0)
4. Kechaun Bennett - 75 (-2) / Tyler McLaurin - 75 (+1)
6. Breeon Ishmail - 74
CB: Will Johnson - 91 (+7)
2. Ja'Den McBurrows - 79 (+0) / Keshaun Harris - 79 (+1)
4. German Green - 78 (+1) / Jyaire Hill - 78
6. Myles Pollard - 77 (+2)
7. Cameron Calhoun - 77
CB: Amorion Walker - 80
2. Ja'Den McBurrows - 79 (+0) / Keshaun Harris - 79 (+1)
4. German Green - 78 (+1) / Jyaire Hill - 78
6. Myles Pollard - 77 (+2)
7. Cameron Calhoun - 77
NB: Mike Sainristil - 91 (+3)
2. Rod Moore - 87 (+0)
3. Zeke Berry - 80 (+0) / Kody Jones - 80 (+3)
S: Rod Moore - 88 (+1)
2. Caden Kolesar - 81 (+1) / Zeke Berry - 80 (+0)
4. Damani Dent - 78 (+0)
S: Makari Paige - 86 (+1)
2. R.J. Moten - 83 (-3) / Quinten Johnson - 82 (+1)
4. Keon Sabb - 79 (+0)
5. D'Juan Waller - 75
K: Tommy Doman - 88 (+0) / Adam Samaha - 81
P: Tommy Doman - 88 (+0)
...apologies for any glaring mistakes, didn't get a chance to proofread like I wanted, as Jay Bilas would say, "I gotta go to work."
February 24th, 2023 at 8:13 AM ^
As a sidenote, losing Gemon Green winds up being one of the biggest losses (that maybe wasn't as anticipated).
In a perfect world, he'd start opposite Johnson and have that spot until week 9 or so when Walker took over. Same situation as last year, just no assault that puts him out of the lineup and opens the door for the young guy.
Luckily, the schedule is manageable and Walker will have plenty of time to get settled into that starting role (assuming we don't find anyone in the May Transfer Portal window).
February 24th, 2023 at 9:24 AM ^
I do not know why Gemon leaving is a surprise. He has already been on the team for 5 years and was a very good player for most of the year.
February 24th, 2023 at 10:13 AM ^
I didn't say it was a surprise.
I said, it wasn't anticipated. Meaning it wasn't a lock (like say Mazi or Mike Morris).
February 24th, 2023 at 10:35 AM ^
Not Anticipated: Something not regarded as probable or expected.
Surprised: an unexpected event, fact, or thing.
It is essentially the same thing. Gemon Green's departure should have been anticipated (probable or predictable). He had been in the program for five years. He started/played in 2021 season prior to being passed by DJ Turner and improved tremendously going into 2022.
February 24th, 2023 at 12:47 PM ^
Yes, but could we have foreseen Gemon Green's departure or was it unexpected?
February 24th, 2023 at 12:48 PM ^
No. They're not the same thing.
They CAN be. For example, I do not anticipate my boss giving me a $1M raise. I would be surprised if my boss gave me a $1M raise.
...now my turn.
I do not anticipate Michigan currently being projected to be in the 2023 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament. I would not be surprised at all if Michigan was currently projected to be in the 2023 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament.
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So don't tell me what I was trying to say and don't make shit up that is patiently false to try to prove your point.
I said what I said, and meant what I said. Green's exit wasn't anticipated...it also was not a surprise. Just like it wouldn't have been a surprise if Keegan left, or Zinter.
Michael Barrett was in the exact same class. No one would call it a surprise that he's still on the team...nor would it be a surprise if he wasn't. And he's been a very good player (like Gemon).
Another example? German's TWIN BROTHER is still on the team. It's not a surprise that he's still on the team when you factor in COVID year's and redshirts.
February 24th, 2023 at 1:47 PM ^
As I scrolled down to read the comments I anticipated some petty shi* to be argued about but I am surprised it went this direction and got this heated so quickly.
February 24th, 2023 at 2:35 PM ^
My slight minstreptation of you vague wording aside, I do not know what "shit I made up".
Gemon appeared in 12 games with six starts at cornerback in 2021.
Gemon appeared in 13 games with 10 starts at cornerback in 2021. He played well enough that he Seth considered giving him a star.
He started 22 games in the 42 games he played in at U of M.
Starter quality cornerbacks do not normally return for 6th years. It is entirely different than Barrett, a guy with no NFL position/1 start at LB prior to 2022, and German, a career backup with no film to show the NFL, returning.
I did not anticipate Zinter to return (or Keegan TBH) and that was a pleasant surprise. I, and I assume others, anticipated Gemon's departure even if we hoped he would return and it would be beneficial.
February 24th, 2023 at 8:25 PM ^
lol just because you jumped to a conclusion doesn't make something vague.
It just means you misinterpreted it and...jumped to a conclusion. I do it, you do it, all people do it all the time. The fact that you're still arguing something YOU misinterpreted is wild.
There was nothing vague, nothing abstract, nothing cloudy about what I said.
You just assumed something that wasn't true and then tried to argue a point that wasn't there to be made. (Which was...if something is not anticipated, it is a surprise - you even tried to go all Merriam-Webster).
Which is as I've already very clearly explained can be true, but can also be completely false. Which was the case this time around.
February 24th, 2023 at 8:39 PM ^
"While many expected Green to stay in Ann Arbor for the upcoming season, he’s ready to test his ability at the next level."
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https://www.mgoblog.com/mgoboard/gemon-green-has-declared-nfl-draft
...pretty clear a number of folks on this very site thought Gemon would be back for one more season.
February 24th, 2023 at 4:51 PM ^
So if twin brothers from the University of Michigan left Ann Arbor on trains going on straight routes 37 degrees from one another at 89 mph and 70 mph how far apart would they be in 3 hours? Would you anticipate that either one would be in a lake? Would it be a surprise if one of them were in a lake? What if the lake was named Green lake? Would you be surprised then? Could you have anticipated that?
February 24th, 2023 at 8:15 AM ^
Blake at 98 eh?
February 24th, 2023 at 8:24 AM ^
Lining up for the first non-Moody field goal will make me sad.
February 24th, 2023 at 8:49 AM ^
330, we’ll need to look for Moody on Sundays.
February 24th, 2023 at 11:43 AM ^
For sure....but it's not the same.
February 24th, 2023 at 4:52 PM ^
I believe that is called the Moody Blues...
February 24th, 2023 at 8:56 AM ^
Is NHG a real player? I keep hearing about him, but have never seen him on the field. Surprised that he's still here, but.. we'll take the depth?
February 24th, 2023 at 9:25 AM ^
Must have missed the 2021 season. It was a fun one.
February 24th, 2023 at 9:39 AM ^
He is going to be a part of an LB group that is going to be a strength of a very strong defense. Colson, Barrett, Hausmann, NHG, Rolder...
February 24th, 2023 at 10:04 AM ^
As probably a top 1% EA NCAA nerd, solid grades.
February 24th, 2023 at 10:21 AM ^
You Might be a little bullish on Amarion Walker…none of us have even seen him in much action. Little early to give him an 80.
February 24th, 2023 at 1:47 PM ^
Absolutely no reason to think he’ll excel in year one, after spending last year as a WR who hardly played. This isn’t a Mikey S situation. Mikey came to college as a CB who was coveted by VaTech. And he’d already spent a few years at Michigan. Can’t imagine Walker will just step right into a starting role without a large learning curve. But I’d love to be wrong.
February 24th, 2023 at 6:07 PM ^
This isn’t a Mikey S situation. Mikey came to college as a CB who was coveted by VaTech
Nick Saban and others wanted Walker as a DB. I'd say that is higher praise than VA. Tech.
He also is a freakish athlete who was already working part time with the defense.
There was very little reason to believe that Mikey converting was going to have the impact he had and it worked out. I'm choosing to believe until reality forces me to.
February 24th, 2023 at 10:29 AM ^
Just because every time I see the kids name its spelled wrong.
https://mgoblue.com/sports/football/roster/kalel-mullings/24392
Nothing specifically against the OP. Its literally every time he’s mentioned.
February 24th, 2023 at 12:50 PM ^
Thanks for the correction - I'll make that change next time. I'm sure Jake Ruddock empathizes with Kalel.
February 24th, 2023 at 11:40 AM ^
Such a bummer that they pushed the new game to next summer.
February 24th, 2023 at 11:58 AM ^
Fantastic work. My only thing would be D. Warren at 81. I dont think I would put him in the 80s as of yet. I dont think he is within 8 points of JJ. If Cade was still around I think id put him at 81 for example.
February 24th, 2023 at 12:55 PM ^
I'm with you...that's probably the one that I didn't feel good about. There was some of that "well if he's the backup QB at Michigan/OSU/Georgia/Alabama/USC/etc. - he has to be at least 80" kind of EA Sports rationale. I had him at an 80 (which I know is still too high in your opinion), but it just felt weird with all of the hype.
Roman Wilson and Cornelius Johnson were the other two that I had trouble with (excluding the kickers, because "who the hell knows?")
February 24th, 2023 at 2:00 PM ^
I don't/didn't play these games enough to have enough of a frame of reference to really understand this. How good is mid to high 80s? In my mind, I'm thinking "B," as in so-so. But a lot of our great players are in that range. Is that just a lot better than I'm thinking? Are players in the 90s really rare?
February 24th, 2023 at 3:06 PM ^
How is Tommy Doman an 88 when he’s never kicked or punted in a college game?
February 24th, 2023 at 3:55 PM ^
MAN i can't wait for the next rendition of the game to come out. Last I heard was 2024 at the earliest. Anyone know if they're going to do basketball and baseball like they had at one point as well?
February 24th, 2023 at 3:57 PM ^
Found this on some Nebraska board. Good news for sure!
https://huskercorner.com/2023/02/05/ea-sports-college-football-step-development/