Michigan guys in McShay's latest mock
McShay's latest mock has a couple UM guys in round 1.. Taco is really trending up, but I'm stunned Jourdan Lewis fell out:
11. New Orleans Saints, 7-9
Taco Charlton, DE, Michigan
Charlton really came on strong in the second half of the season, posting 10 sacks in his final 10 games. He showed a lot of improvement with his hands and overall technique in 2016. The Saints need a pass-rusher opposite Cameron Jordan, and Charlton has the size, speed and power to be a difference-maker off the edge.
17. Washington Redskins, 8-7-1
Jabrill Peppers, S, Michigan
Peppers is a polarizing prospect in scouting circles. He needs to be protected from deep zone coverage, and he did not have much ball production at Michigan, with just one career interception. But he is a special athlete with elite speed and a unique knack for keeping blockers off his pads. His electrifying return ability will also be an asset in the NFL.
(And notable):
32. New England Patriots, 14-2
Haason Reddick, LB, Temple
Look for the Patriots to add a tight end early, perhaps Michigan's Jake Butt or Ole Miss' Evan Engram on Day 2. But given how the board fell, they could get better value by targeting Reddick here. He opened eyes at the Senior Bowl, proving he can thrive as an off-the-line LB. Reddick has a little Tedy Bruschi in him.
(my attempt at a link)
http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2017/insider/story/_/id/18632945/todd-mcsh…
February 8th, 2017 at 1:26 PM ^
February 8th, 2017 at 1:55 PM ^
I like the idea of watching Peppers at least twice a year when the Redskins play my Giants, but loathe the thought of rooting for a Redskin... ever.
But I love Peppers.
February 8th, 2017 at 1:31 PM ^
I was really hoping to see Taco on the board when the Cowboys pick but that seems to be less and less likely with every passing day!
February 8th, 2017 at 1:35 PM ^
February 8th, 2017 at 1:45 PM ^
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If so, then John Mcenroe has some words for you...
February 8th, 2017 at 2:14 PM ^
It's not a matter of opinion. If you're watching the right player, you see a dude bursting by the tackle and instantly crushing the QB or you see him crushing the tackle backwards into the pocket, or blowing through his shoulder. But yeah I guess you're a better evaluator than McShay or NFL scouts. Wish I could neg you more.
February 8th, 2017 at 2:43 PM ^
WHAT.THE.FUCK.ARE.YOU.TALKING.ABOUT???????????? did you pull that from your ass? Did you even watch the OSU game or the Orange Bowl? He was a one man wrecking machine.
WTF?WTF?WTF?WTF?WTF?WTF?WTF?WTF?WTF?WTF?WTF?
I gues you can say I am confused.
February 8th, 2017 at 3:18 PM ^
Yeah...and I didn't see Peppers have any of that 'elite speed' he's talking about either..................................................
February 8th, 2017 at 3:39 PM ^
Most uninformed comment on Mgoblog for 2017, strong early contender here.
February 8th, 2017 at 5:06 PM ^
It is possible to have good coverage AND a good pass rush.
February 8th, 2017 at 6:05 PM ^
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February 8th, 2017 at 8:45 PM ^
February 8th, 2017 at 1:40 PM ^
Link They did a 3 round post.
Of note
Peppers - 20 to Denver
Taco - 30 to Dallas
Lewis - 61 to GB
Wormley - 85 Detroit!!!!!!!
No Jake Butt, which is a bummer, but means he can cash in that insurance policy and get on a more competitive team maybe later in the draft, which wouldn't be the worst thing ever.
February 8th, 2017 at 1:41 PM ^
Now this sounds a lot more to my liking!! Taco would be an immediate contributor on the Cowboys D!!
February 8th, 2017 at 1:57 PM ^
Hate the Cowboys even more than the Redskins... but Taco!
February 8th, 2017 at 2:41 PM ^
someone had Peppers drop to 32...and the Patriots. Yes please.
Love to see Wormley or Taco and/or Lewis with the Steelers
Also would think Peppers would be a HUGE star with the Cowboys.
Note: I have no NFL affiliation. Just tend to root for Michigan players.
February 8th, 2017 at 3:05 PM ^
Another MGoCowboys fan here (how many of us are there?). The Cowboys need difference-makers on defense so they won't need to lean so hard on their excellent offense -- the D dug too big a hole against Green Bay in the playoffs. If either Peppers or Taco fall all the way to 28 (very unlikely, IMO, especially Taco, who's zooming up boards), the Cowboys will snap that guy up. I wouldn't mind them taking Jourdan Lewis at that pick either, though I think they prefer bigger CBs in their defense. Really too bad that Lewis's size seems to be dropping him on so many boards -- somebody's going to get a steal picking him in Round 2.
The Cowboys also have a fine tradition of blowing 2nd round picks on mediocre TEs in recent years searching for Witten's heir-apparent, so maybe they'll get it right this time and steal Jake Butt at the bottom of Round 2.
Would be nice to have at least one Wolverine to root for on the Cowboys, especially with having to root for Ezekiel Elliott on the team...
February 8th, 2017 at 3:48 PM ^
but if I was we'd have to get together since you're in NoVa. I defintiely watch them though. I'll be honest, I was so happy Zeke was out of Columbus I was ready to root for anyone who drafted him. I would love to see Peppers with them. He could be a difference maker on a defense that is solid but lacks playmakers. And as long as Cousins is with the Redskins, I will always root against them. Redskin tears are even more delicious than Sparty tears believe it or not.
February 8th, 2017 at 2:58 PM ^
February 8th, 2017 at 4:13 PM ^
I would like to watch Butt 16 times a year, plus playoffs, but not including those damn pre-season games that they make fans pay full face value for.
February 8th, 2017 at 10:31 PM ^
Since my primary NFL interest is following our alumni, preseason is when I can get cheap seats on Ebay and see our rookies get playing time, even those who might be UDFAs. With both the Jets & the Giants here, that means at least 6 other teams coming in to play them, and the number of guys in the picture, the odds are pretty good this year there'll be at least one game of interest.
February 8th, 2017 at 1:38 PM ^
... none are drafted by the Lions.
February 8th, 2017 at 1:40 PM ^
Nothing to see there.... move along....
February 8th, 2017 at 2:09 PM ^
Don't worry - the Pats will move up and grab Wormley ahead of the Lions. And when he turns out to be everything we ever thought he could be and more once he's on that team, they'll say "Same old Pats" and "Same old Lions."
The Pats see talent where no other team can find it, and take other team's cast-offs and win SB with them. They're in another realm as a franchise, can't really think of another team in the free agent era to even compare them to except maybe Jeter's Yanks - and they had no salary cap to deal with!
I still seldom let a day go by without reminding everyone in SF I told them the 49ers should've taken Brady in 2000 - not "rifle armed" Giovanni Carmazzi around 100 picks higher! The only thing that's gone right for the 49ers since that day was hiring a former Michigan QB to coach the team - and they F'd that up!!!
February 8th, 2017 at 7:42 PM ^
The Spurs are right there on the same level, maybe even better.
Also have five titles over the span of about the exact same time. They may be even a little further ahead at this point, since they've turned their entire roster over and have managed to stay one of the top 3 teams in the league without Tim Duncan. The Pats haven't had to remain elite without Brady yet.
February 8th, 2017 at 1:38 PM ^
I don't really get why there's no love for Lewis. Yes, he's undersized, but everything I see has him out of first and talked about as a nickle corner. Did nobody see him shut down high level receivers much taller than him game after game? It's like the scouts are looking just at measurables and totally ignoring tape. Some smart front office is going to draft him way later than he deserves and reap the rewards for years.
February 8th, 2017 at 1:52 PM ^
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February 8th, 2017 at 2:06 PM ^
a prospect's stock especially when scouts are expecting Jabrill to test out well in explosiveness and speed test.
February 8th, 2017 at 2:34 PM ^
agree to disagree then.
February 8th, 2017 at 3:12 PM ^
February 8th, 2017 at 6:14 PM ^
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February 8th, 2017 at 3:34 PM ^
You really believe that the Browns are going to actually draft quality players? I hope so, but their past says otherwise. I predict them taking a destined to fail strong armed qb at one and an explosive alcoholic woman beater at twelve. High risk high reward.
February 8th, 2017 at 2:21 PM ^
February 8th, 2017 at 1:57 PM ^
It's why so many players go to train for the combine rather than training to get better. A great 40 or shuttle time can be worth more than your game film or a great week at the senior bowl. It sucks to see a guy who did so much for the team fall like this, but I think it will allow him to end up with a team who knows how to deploy his skillset, which will lead to bigger paydays down the line.
February 8th, 2017 at 2:48 PM ^
I think there are a lot of really good defenders this year. And 2 or 3 corners who have better size (read: height) He's still a top 5 corner, but there might only be 4 corners taken in the first round and a half...because there are SO many good DL.
February 8th, 2017 at 1:51 PM ^
And be as happy on Sundays as I've been on Saturdays the last 2 years.
February 8th, 2017 at 5:05 PM ^
I hate the Redskins. They have the ugliest uniforms in the NFL, and I still hold a grudge against them for beating the Lions in the playoffs.
February 8th, 2017 at 1:55 PM ^
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February 8th, 2017 at 2:44 PM ^
Belichick pick. Great track record, his kind of program and coach, team captain and loves to play football. Where other coaches who are looking immediately, Belichick isn't afraid to draft a player and let him either IR-red shirt, or PUP and bring back later in the year. Hope to see BB develop a Harbaugh pipeline, since he likes to draft players from specific programs. Maybe an appearance at Michigan Pro day.
February 8th, 2017 at 5:04 PM ^
I hope Butt is ready to go by the beginning of the year. It sucks that he tore his ACL, but he tore his ACL in the spring and came back mid-season last time. Since he tore it on December 30 this time, I think he should be able to play by August.
February 8th, 2017 at 3:14 PM ^
Butt does seem like a Patriot type of guy but I think the Pats will be hesitant to take an "Injury prone" TE after having to deal with gronk all these years
Peppers has to be the hardest player in the 1st round for these analysts to predict. Ive seen him go in the top 10 in numerous boards. The combine will truely decide his fate. I think he'll blow the 40 out of the water and have teams drooling over his performance
Dabroh will be a surprise. 2nd round pick
February 8th, 2017 at 3:42 PM ^
I love the kid and think he'll be a solid NFL player. But when the SI mock draft linked above has an explosive WR like OU's Dede Westbrook going near the bottom of the 3rd round, it's really hard to see Darboh going any higher than that.
I agree w/you on Peppers -- very hard to predict where he'll go in a mock. But all it takes is one team to fall in love with him and see him as Troy Polamolu 2.0 to land him in the top 15 -- and someone probably will. No doubt some teams are even encouraging the "Peppers isn't really that good" talk in hopes that he'll fall to their spot.
February 8th, 2017 at 8:23 PM ^
Dede Westbrook also has a domestic violence incident hampering his draft stock.
February 8th, 2017 at 3:18 PM ^
I came to this thread simply to say that I despise mock drafts. They're so pointless and every analyst in America feels the need to have a new mock draft every week (why do they change so often?).
February 8th, 2017 at 5:17 PM ^