Michigan defensive packages 2013. One expert's opinion
Another reason this D should be very good in '13. Hoke and Mattison can put a starting D on the field with only one underclassman. Damn you JRIII, why you have to be so good. We will also see some interesting run and pass D packages. and I will offer up my opinion of who might comprise these. I will make my selections without the use of any true freshman.
I know it is likely that Marvin Robinson doesn't start at safey, plus Clark and Beyer starting together doesn't seem to be in the cards, but the fact that these upperclassmen, third year into Mattison's defensive system, could all be on the field at the same time is kind of reassuring
Experienced package:
Defensive line |
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Quinton Washington | DT | 6-4 | 305 | RS SR |
Jibreel Black | DT | 6-2 | 276 | SR |
Frank Clark | DE | 6-2 | 277 | JR |
Brennen Beyer | DE | 6-3 | 254 | JR |
Linebackers |
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Jake Ryan | LB | 6-3 | 241 | RS JR |
Desmond Morgan | LB | 6-1 | 227 | JR |
James Ross III | LB | 6-1 | 223 | SO |
Defensive backs |
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Blake Countess | DB | 5-10 | 181 | JR |
Raymon Taylor | DB | 5-10 | 186 | JR |
Thomas Gordon | S | 5-11 | 208 | RS SR |
Marvin Robinson | S | 6-2 | 202 | SR |
I think M will also be able to put a nice package on the field to pressure the QB
pass rushing package |
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Defensive line |
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Ondre Pipkins | DT | 6-3 | 308 | SO |
Jibreel Black | DT | 6-2 | 276 | SR |
Frank Clark | DE | 6-2 | 277 | JR |
Mario Ojemudia | DE | 6-3 | 244 | SO |
Linebackers |
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Jake Ryan | LB | 6-3 | 241 | RS JR |
Joe Bolden | LB | 6-3 | 222 | SO |
James Ross III | LB | 6-1 | 223 | SO |
Defensive backs |
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Blake Countess | DB | 5-10 | 181 | JR |
Raymon Taylor | DB | 5-10 | 186 | JR |
Thomas Gordon | S | 5-11 | 208 | RS SR |
Marvin Robinson | S | 6-2 | 202 | SR |
Pass rushing package 2 with Cam Gordon on the field with Jake Ryan
pass rushing package 2 |
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Defensive line |
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Ondre Pipkins | DT | 6-3 | 308 | SO |
Jibreel Black | DT | 6-2 | 276 | SR |
Frank Clark | DE | 6-2 | 277 | JR |
Jake Ryan | DE | 6-3 | 241 | RS JR |
Linebackers |
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Cameron Gordon | LB | 6-3 | 233 | RS SR |
Joe Bolden | LB | 6-3 | 222 | SO |
James Ross III | LB | 6-1 | 223 | SO |
Defensive backs |
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Blake Countess | DB | 5-10 | 181 | JR |
Raymon Taylor | DB | 5-10 | 186 | JR |
Thomas Gordon | S | 5-11 | 208 | RS SR |
Marvin Robinson | S | 6-2 | 202 | SR |
and a run defensive package where Mattison goes big
run defense package |
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Defensive line |
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Ondre Pipkins | DT | 6-3 | 308 | SO |
Quinton Washington | DT | 6-4 | 305 | RS SR |
Chris Wormley | DL | 6-4 | 290 | RS FR |
Brennen Beyer | DE | 6-3 | 254 | JR |
Linebackers |
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Jake Ryan | LB | 6-3 | 241 | RS JR |
Desmond Morgan | LB | 6-1 | 227 | JR |
James Ross III | LB | 6-1 | 223 | SO |
Defensive backs |
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Blake Countess | DB | 5-10 | 181 | JR |
Raymon Taylor | DB | 5-10 | 186 | JR |
Thomas Gordon | S | 5-11 | 208 | RS SR |
Marvin Robinson | S | 6-2 | 202 | SR |
I guess I will try a nickle package but I expect to get skewered for this.
Nickle package |
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Defensive line |
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Quinton Washington | DT | 6-4 | 305 | RS SR |
Jibreel Black | DT | 6-2 | 276 | SR |
Frank Clark | DE | 6-2 | 277 | JR |
Linebackers |
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Jake Ryan | LB | 6-3 | 241 | RS JR |
Joe Bolden | LB | 6-3 | 222 | SO |
James Ross III | LB | 6-1 | 223 | SO |
Defensive backs |
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Blake Countess | DB | 5-10 | 181 | JR |
Raymon Taylor | DB | 5-10 | 186 | JR |
Thomas Gordon | S | 5-11 | 208 | RS SR |
Jarrod Wilson | S | 6-2 | 196 | SO |
Courtney Avery | CB | 5-11 | 174 | SR |
March 16th, 2013 at 11:19 AM ^
March 16th, 2013 at 11:24 AM ^
I considered that but Beyer started for a reason last season and it wasn't for his ability to rush the passer, this makes me think he is probably fundementally and schematically sound on run defense.
March 16th, 2013 at 11:41 AM ^
in the experienced linebacker package.
March 16th, 2013 at 11:53 AM ^
that Marvin Robinson didn't get any meaningful playingtime when you subbed him in all of your packages? Seems pretty arbitrary to me.
March 16th, 2013 at 11:23 AM ^
March 16th, 2013 at 11:27 AM ^
I know Marvin Robinson could very well end up behind Wilson on the depth chart, and I said so in my OP. Pretty much on any of the packages I listed, Wilson could be inserted instead of Robinson.
March 16th, 2013 at 11:50 AM ^
we're all "Fanxperts" here, I will say this: in regards to potential defensive packages, your Fanxpertise far exceeds mine with your OP. Well thought out and good food for thought.
August and the start of the football season just can't get here soon enough!
March 16th, 2013 at 12:09 PM ^
The expert line was 100% tongue in cheek.
and "fanxpertise" are not used with any negative connotations whatsoever on my part. After all, aren't we all fans, and---for at least most of us, anyway--- "experts", when it comes to discussing our favorite teams? Don't we all gain "fanxpertise" by exchanging our great ideas, opinions, and thoughts, both positive and negative, on our favorite teams?
March 16th, 2013 at 11:29 AM ^
I thought Countess got a medical redshirt? Shouldnt he be a redshirt sophomore then?
March 16th, 2013 at 11:38 AM ^
You are almost assuredly correct and I should have caught that. I just copy and pasted from the spring roster.
March 16th, 2013 at 12:01 PM ^
Is Blake going to get a medical redshirt?
EDIT: Someday I will learn how to read.
March 16th, 2013 at 11:53 AM ^
Pretty good Gordie, I'm just glad we have packages with experieinced players now. Yours seem pretty likely. I still think we need to use a dime package or something like that where we don't have traditional run LB's like Bolden Ross etc... on the field. On 3rd and 10+ there is no real threat of being bowled over for 10yards so it's all agility and speed. I don't know who's the best guy at coverage so maybe Bolden or whoever is on the field but I'm just going by athleticism and supposed coverage ability.
Line- Clark, Ojemida
LB/S- Might blitz might be in coverage bouncing around-Ryan, Cam Gordon, Marvin Robinson
CB/S-More for coverage but everyones in play to blitz-Countess, Taylor, Avery, T. Gordon, J. Wilson, Richardson.
Basically if I see a bulked up LB trying to get depth in coverage and he can't get his head around to prevent a 3rd and 15 pass from being completed I shake mey head and scream. Watching those 3rd and long completions with Morgan and Demens trying to guard guys was very frustrating.
March 16th, 2013 at 12:15 PM ^
March 16th, 2013 at 12:43 PM ^
I think Marvin has a chance to have a beast of a senior year (and I hope both he and Josh Furman play up this fall..)
March 16th, 2013 at 12:55 PM ^
just isn't going to play barring injuries.
March 16th, 2013 at 12:55 PM ^
just isn't going to play barring injuries.
This is interesting stuff and it's fun to picture what might be & fantasize about it. I have a feeling though that Wilson or Thomas will man one of those safety spots and Robinson won't play any legitimate time unless there are injuries. Also, Bolden, Ross, Ojemudia, and Pipkins are all true sohpmores that will get a lot of time in addition to Countess who will be considered a sophmore. It also seems likely that Charlton will see similar time that Ojemudia did last year based on his recruiting profile, his college ready size, and our weaknesses at the position he plays. You can also throw Wormley in the mix. So I'd say we still have a good 5-8 freshman/sophmores getting significant time on that side of the ball. In the case of of the linebackers I'd say it's because they're good, in the case of the other positions I'd say it's because the upperclassman aren't great.
Well there is still time until the fall, but it looks as though coaches could be emphasizing speed over size, at least at linebacker. None of the linebackers made significant weight gains and a couple lost weight compared to the 2012 fall roster.
name | 2012 weight | 2013 weight |
Cameron Gordon | 236 | 233 |
James Ross III | 225 | 223 |
Mike Jones | 226 | 223 |
Joe Bolden | 223 | 222 |
Antonio Poole | 224 | 218 |
Jake Ryan | 242 | 241 |
Desmond Morgan | 227 | 227 |
Kaleb Ringer | 231 | 236 |
Royce Jenkins-Stone | 213 | 215 |