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MBB vs Arkansas Open Thread
'Bout to make some John U. out of the pigs
Someone end this Bama vs Kentucky game now!
Credit to umhoops.com.
Is there an alternate channel while bama is playing?
all there fouls UK and Bama, I do not care about you
Michigan down 3-0
5-0 and one
Stupid CBS, give us the local teams ya jerks!
for the big 10 to shove it down the cbSEC network's throat.
6-2 Timmy hit a J
the girl announcing that mich vs arkansas was on next seemed to be a bit confused while talking... Or maybe she has a bit of a stu stu studder
Why is this game starting at 6-2? Stupid Alabama...
sloppy start down 8-2
Apparently hand checks and body checks are legal right now.
Wow we do not look like a good team out there.
Where are the fouls?
who the hell coaches Arkansas? is it Mike Anderson?
We don't look comfortable... yet.
Thanks for that Morgan
man Arkansas is hyped up to play us. Does the SEC have no quality opponents beside Kentucky?
well....unlike teh big 10....the officiating in the rest of the country actually allows you to play the game of basketball, which is a contact sport. Gonna have to adjust to real basketball and not big 10 touch foul basketball.
I think you have that completely backwards. The big ten is clutch an grab all day.
I know it has been a while since I've been in Arkansas, when did they legalize rape?
I don't want to watch Kentucky and Bama, switch it back
F Alabama & Kentucky - go back to our game!
Can't CBS switch away from this kissing cousins game for the locals?
I hate hearing that we're getting owned and I'm stuck watching the SEC.
The local game feed?
In other news, if the Pistons continue to lose as they are, I'd really like to have Anthony Davis.
13-5 Arkansas. Good news is Ark hasn't missed a shot yet
How is that good news? They average 12-13 more points a game than us. We need them to be off their game to win if we're off ours.
Kentucky is up by 6 with less than 5 seconds left and they're not switching to the local game. Give me a break.
Killed us against Iowa, almost cost us NW. What is with that? Why can't we come out strong against crappy teams?
Geeze this is worse than last Saturday..
They needed a commercial for a desperation heave down 6?
calipari called a TO... wtf.
Whatever our game plan is needs to change. Everyone is just standing around and not helping anyone out.
I hope we win because Jordan Diamond is on his official to Arkansas.
what is Stu doing....
"let's just run into this group of defenders and pick up my dribble..."
This crowd is really loud, not so much student section but the whole place
in something like 50 games. Supposedly because they want to watch Michigan.
Road Wins: We don't get them
thank FSM for Novak
Novak doing his thing.
and then getting blocked
Big 3 by Novak
There it is. Good 3 by novak thanks to good ball movement.
I like this game. Excellent test and experience
9-9 from the field
That's not goaltending?
They will miss a shot at some point, right? right? please?
Novak needs to use his body to protect that lay-up
he needs to dunk the damn ball
well... it's Novak
No goaltending there? What the hell.
cause it wasn't?
Touching ball while ball on rim = goaltend. Initially the block was fine, but he trapped it on the rim. Not fine.
He hit it against the glass, that's called 98-100 times. Stupid SEC homers.
only showed it once but yeah... pretty sure lol.
This is getting out of hand really quick
Stu is one helluva athlete.
Why are we so tentative and scared?
What the hell is Beilein telling these kids before games? They're horrid on the road!
this is ugly.... We've never been good against the full court press
Did we not practice for them?? Why are we holding the ball in double teams? It has to be hot potato
Thats happened about ten times now, they hold on to the damn ball too long and then no one helps either.
In every trap. We have to show some HEART here.
On that Novak layup. Looked pretty obvious to me.
Novak with 3 TOs already? These guys are just too athletic looking right now; our guys can't get any space (or fouls).
Remember Indiana. They couldn't miss out of the gate yet we brought it within 1. Arkansas is running on hype and adrenaline right now. I'll start to panic when we're down 20 before or at half.
Novak and Stu looking lost when the trap comes. Arkansas is making them look like freshman.
i think i might turn this one off early guys.. doesn't look good.. Arkansas is gonna put 100 on them today
Novak and Stu looking lost when the trap comes. Arkansas is making them look like freshman.
This is the first time I can remember Novak being overmatched. Hopefully he can adjust. Arkansas will give M opportunities to turn this thing around, if they ever miss a shot....
When we are on defense, watch THJ. Sometimes he just looks so clueless. We typically switch screens and he doesn't seem to do a good job communicating with his teammates. For example, watch the first Ark three, it was wide open and there was clearly some miscommunication between Stewie & THJ. Very frustrating, and I'd tend to blame THJ.
Pretty worried about the Ark bigs & their athleticism.
locking down on the defensive end. They won't shoot 90% the whole game
Time to wake up. Ark will not shoot 85% too much longer. Hope we relax and get in the game.
I mean 100%
You're right they're shooting 100%
why does everyone say remember this or remember that. Unless we are playing the same team it doesn't matter, this isn't Indiana
start protecting the ball better I might bust my tv open.
No excuse for our constant slow starts. Something needs to change.
We started fast against state.
We did and against Wisconsin. However, 2 games out of 19 is not a good percentage. That is my point.
Arkansas' players sure aren't playing like freshmen
10 for 10. Holy shit
haha, these guys are ridiculous... 10-10 FG wow
including 4 threes
This is a bad dream...10-10?
Arkansas plays a style that is very dependant on officiating. If the refs let them play, they will beat a lot of teams. If the refs call it tight they will loose to almost anyone. It's too bad these refs are letting them play.
It also doesn't hurt that Arkansas hasn't missed.
That was their first missed shot....jeezus.
Didn't count cause it was on a foul. Still 100%.
We are going to get run out of the gym. Not good on national TV
Get Smot out of there. He is a massive liability.
Thought the same thing, he doesn't bring anything to the table.
We've just got to hang in there. Arkansas is going to start missing.
Again....this is what happens when your use to every bit of contact being a foul in the big 10, you can see guys slowing down every time there is a litle contact like they are expecting a whistle. Gotta adjust to the fact that outside the great lakes region you can make contact in basketball.
This is why no big 10 team has won the national title since 2000, were so used to instant whistles we cant adjust t little things like hand checking and bumping cutters through the lane.
Again, I think you're completely wrong about that. Big Ten teams do better than their seed in the NCAA tournament because they're used to less calls. Michigan is struggling in this one because they're shell shocked and playing stupid.
I think Arkansas did that thing like the Monstars from Space Jam did when they stole the talent from those NBA guys.
Or some shit.
This is what happens when you lack ballhandlers.
Dang gettin worked.
Absolutely nothing is going our way.
damn, burke trying to win this game single-handedly. not smart in that situation
CALL A FUCKING FOUL YOU DUMB FUCKING REFEREES
Fuck this. Down 17 halfway though the first half. We're going to get raped.
check the diameter of the rim that Arkansas is shooting at?
Stu getting into foul trouble might not be a bad thing. He's been a turnover machine so far.
Down by 17 fucking points less than 10 minutes into the game. This is pathetic. Fuck Evan Scomtyzc or how ever you spell his god damn name. Never dribble a basketball again. Ever.
we look rotten...flat out. i hate watching games like this
Why can't we make fucking wide open shots??
A team has started 11-11 and you are down 20 and yet you haven't called a timeout? What are you doing?
First missed FG
Smotrycz is absolutely HORRIBLE...
TV is off
Make a damn shot....seriously.
No one is rebounding, Arkansas has 4 people rebounding every shot
Where the hell are our foul calls?!
Back in the Big Ten.
Beilein needs to take away Hardaway's green light.
Also, they are not calling body fouls today.
Why are we trying to keep pace with them on offense? Slow it down and run our sets.
When we slow it down they double team the guy and he turns the ball over.
Timmy and trey have to take over, keep driving.
this is absolutely ridiculous...
Bad choice there. Work the ball around
Ten mins in the fouls are M-4 Ark-1. With Ark playing much more aggressively.
Run the offense.
Quit fucking whining about the officiating. Our last game we didn't have hardly any fouls called against us.
What is Smotryz even doing there? No chance to steal it. No upside, all downside. Just leave it alone.
Nobody is hitting 3s. Vogrich isn't, THJr isn't, Burke is even off today.
THJ needs to be sat. I don't know what's going on with him but playing four on five is not working out.
Absolutely nothing. He's even scared to simply dribble the damn thing.
They're going to hang 115 on us. Turn it off.
make a fucking shot
Michigan cannot win with these refs.
I just turned the game on. Jesus.
All you missed was them going 11-11 and us turning it over every possession
Watching those highlights as they entered a commercial break made me feel like we've actually played well.....until I realized they were from previous games.
We've got to look for higher-percentage shots. We keep settling for the 3.
I'm about to actually help the wife clean the house if this doesn't turn around soon
Hardaway looks sooooo lost on D.
This fucking team shows no fucking sense of urgency. They have no heart in this. There's no fire like Novak had last year. Every time something happens there's no emotion. The bigs on this team are awful. The shooting "specialists" can't shoot. They don't make shots. Fuck this.
Good god man, this is an away game against a non conference team. It's not pretty, but this game is not a big deal at all. Cheer up buttercup.
all these bad players yet UM is in first place right now in the best conference. you, sir, a genius.
Do we get to play any NCAA Tournament games at home?
Can someone please tell me how we've played this entire stretch without calling a timeout? I think that's just irresponsible.
Refs seem fine to me. Don't know what more you guys want from them. Not being able to play defense or shoot seems to be hindering us far more than the refs.
This seems like a pre-ordained loss. What Arkansas is doing just doesn't happen.
I beg to differ. It seems to happen for every team when Michigan is playing them.
That's what everybody thinks about their team.
Well, I guess I don't have to worry about being distracted during homework today.
I feel you.
Mastering Physics doesn't sound as bad anymore.
Smot is one of the few not playing scared out there. Go Smot. Arkansas shot their wad. Stick a fork in em'
nice way to kill the momentum of a big win on tuesday against MSU.. would rather be playing Indiana or Ohio right now
BS call on that block
Burke needs to slow down
I hate this #21 gomer.....
Triple post. Woops.
That was a blatant charge, so you quit bitching.
well obviously not the start we needed and was hoping to weather the storm of ten or less. We cannot run or shoot three's with this team. Important not understanding why Coach isn't demanding a slow down game and why Jr. doesn't take it to the rack more especially in the beginning to get going, drives me nuts with all the missed three's and no working the ball inside?!
We walked into a buzzsaw today.
Come on CBS!
rebound the ball
Apparently they aren't calling moving picks either.
one guy in white gets that rebound.. what a joke
Rebound. For the love of god. Rebound.
REBOUND THE ROCK
I'm getting sick and tired of Trey being the only one acting like he gives a shit.
Can someone ban you already? Every post is negative and you're just a troll.
What the hell happened to this team, they have gone cold for 2 halves in a row now. Beilein better get this straightened out!
Maybe throw a press on Ark. Pressing teams don't like to be pressed
This isn't new but he needs to be aggressive and drive
If we can cut it to 8 or 12 by half then we have a good shot imo.
Good job, Morgan.
This is far from over.
Let's switch baskets.
I think someone is using game genie, how do you make shots like that and be an 11-11 team?
3's are starting to fall, Arkansas 40-24
Does this team fucking miss? WTF?
Even their garbage is going in...... They have to cool off sometime.
We're playing at a D+ level right now. Just unlucky to run into a team that can't miss.
Arkansas leads the nation by shooting 107% from the field...
They are making every damn shot. Good thing we are starting to hit three's
I think the homer SEC announcers are the worst part of watching this.
I wish we could shoot like they have for just a few minutes.
I'm surprised that was the first timeout we took. You'd think Beilein would want to slow it down.
I *commence bouncing*
I believe that
I believe that we
I believe that we will win
I believe that we will win
I believe that we will win!!!
Hardaway should not be allowed to shoot threes.
THJr 27% on the season, Vogrich 25%. Why do they still have the red light?
Where the hell is live blog? This annoying to have to refresh this every 5 seconds, especially when you want to bitch a ton.
I don't miss manny Harris. That said THJ please turn back into your old self.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of this THJ regression. He's playing at pre-B1G season last year levels.
Wow, just tuned in for the first time. Ugly. Maybe we can cut it to ten before half?
If we can get the lead at or under 10 by the end of the half, it will be fantastic for us. That is not gonna be easy though.
Hardaway needs to start moving on offense. If he doesn't have the ball, he's largely sitting stationary behind the 3pt line.
I hate media timeouts most of the time but they will hopefully slow they're momentum
Arkansas is making 80% of their shots from everywhere on the floor. They're just jacking stuff up in the lane, outside & whirling dirvishes.
They don't care? Really?
Someone noted above- This is that buzz saw. They may get back in it but they'll have to do it in transition off AK's misses.
Hang in there, folks.
If we can get their lead down under 10 by halftime I have faith that Beilein will make the requisite adjustments.
I don't have faith we'll cut it to ten. We can't make them miss.
We need to challenge more shots. They've had a lot of shots that are getting rolls on the rim that haven't had a hand in front of them. If we start putting hands in the shooters' faces, those rolls will turn into bricks.
i said 100 points earlier and was called out for trolling... 100 points looks like it could happen
How is Arkansas doing this?! Somebody already said this but at this rate, this game is a pre-ordained loss. Kentucky, Duke, or Ohio State would be struggling right now against this Arkansas team this afternoon.
Yes rebounding needs to get better. THJ GET TO THE BASKET!!!
if this turns into another Iowa, the rest of the season could get rough.
"41 points - that's a lot for Michigan to give up in a half. That's not their style."
Umm... who that fucks style is that?
Rich Rod. If he coached basketball.
only down 15 now
LOL Arkansas fans booing the refs
Just start chipping away boys
They make everything...
Jesus, we're playing the 97 bulls.
You have to love the FT shooting angle that doesn't show the basket.... top notch job CBS.
Keep moving the ball and chip away at this lead. Luck has to turn.
This is right on pace for our average scoring. They're up a little on theirs.
Burke: Still a freshman
Not the first time he's played against good competition. He's forcing way too much.
We're picking horrid shots.
It's sort of scary to think about how UK completely anihilated this Arkansas team just a few days ago...
Why do I waste my time with this team?
Well, if you're going to act like that, quit following this team. They deserve better than you.
They're respecting Trey's speed. He's gotta lead this team.
Burke is putting the team on his back
and it's costing us
Nobody else is stepping up. It's gotta go through Trey.
DAMN YOU HARDAWAY!
hardaway needed to pass that ball to burke on the fastbreak
I feel like a masochist by continuing to watch this game.
Novak in beast mode.
We need some Novak grit!!!!
Man...THJ is really, really struggling this year. The effort seems to be there, I'll give him that much credit. But come on man!
How do you see effort? I see selfish, sloppy play.
I'm guessing that the coaches are telling him he is an important part of the offense, so he probably feels like he needs to carry the load. I mean, he is clearly an important part of our offense.
I don't necessarily think it's selfish of him to take a lot of shots, as someone needs to score, but I do agree that he has a quick trigger and forces up too many contested 3s.
I dunno, I just get the feeling that he cares a lot and wants the team to do well.
you have pretty much reached neg on sight status!
I see him taking off down court before we've even secured rebounds. He seems to be playing for himself.
Again, this could be a coaching thing. A lot of teams will have guards release early in the hopes of fast breaks, ie UCLA a few years ago with Kevin Love patrolling the lane.
Obviously we don't have a Love-caliber rebounder, plus Belein's philosophy doesn't emphasize rebounding as much as a lot of coaches, so who knows.
All I'm saying is, it's easy to call a scorer selfish when he's struggling. When THJ was knocking those shots down last year, no one called him selfish.
Arkansas 46 Michigan 33 HALFTIME FINALLY
Eh... Arkansas returned to reality and we're down 13. Were down 20. Let's not go crazy.
Well that was pretty much the worst case scenario.
Down 13...could be alot worse. As long as Smotcryz and Hardaway don't touch the ball we should be ok.....
On the bright side, I'm gonna go ahead and guess that THJ is back in Ann Arbor next year.
That's a bright side? I'd rather have him leave for the NBA if he's gonna play like he has this year next year.
still doable. Just need a hot streak coming out of the locker room. And, Timmy, hold onto the darn ball!!
Beilein's halftime speech needs to include some version of the up up down down left right left right B A cheat code that Arkansas used to shoot in the first half.
I don't think Contra will help, but who knows..
arkansas scored a point on every possession they had from about the 7:30 mark, except the last one of the half.
edit: forgot they turned it over once.
Well, they're shooting percentage is almost double ours (65 to 39), yet we are still "only" down 13....maybe there is a chance.
I somehow feel we'll still win this game. They can't possibly continue to shoot like this.
I Have a feeling we'll be right in it at the end.
That was a fun first half. M ain't in bad postition. 13 down in this type of game isn't too much to overcome. Watch M battle back in the 2nd half. This is what I love about this team. They battle til the end
Great thing about sports is that anything (almost) is possible, and this game is definitely not a lost cause.
First five minutes of this half could be key. If we could get it under 10 we're right in it.
Assuming Ark cools down...if Burke can remember to look to pass when he penetrates and Hardaway can remove his head from his ass, we can win this.
Timmy is in a bit of a sophomore slump
just a bit?
I think he's still adjusting to the loss of Morris. Burke is awesome but not yet as good at finding open shooters.
the only good thing about this game is that it doesn't affect the BIG TEN standings
I turned on the game late and heard the announcer say Arkansas was 10-10 from the floor. Arkansas can beat any team in the country shooting as well as they have this half. If it continues into the second half, good work Arkansas, that's ridiculously good shooting. We just have to hope they actually miss the shots they normally miss. Otherwise, there is no defense against never missing shots.
And it's not like we weren't contesting a lot of their shots. Yes, a bunch of open looks were given, but some of their cross-over/super spin shots were pretty well defended with a hand in their face.
Hoping Arkansas comes back to reality shooting in the 2nd half
I was not planning on drinking yet. NOW I AM ANGAR.
need to chip away at this!
between analysis and bitching about players. Don't anyone in here "GoSparty" the rest of the game. This is bad. Comments like THJ is lazy, ball hog, etc.
They will come back to earth.
Good news and bad news.
Bad: down by 13 at half.
Good: there is no way Ark will shoot 65% in the second half. When the junk shots stopped falling their lead diminished.
Beilein is an excellent coach and make solid second half adjustments. This game is not over, Arkansas' style is ripe for comebacks.
I cannot stand the CBS broadcasting crew. Not so much Kevin Harlan but everything else including the halftime. Maybe I'm just annoyed.
they are pretty bad. i've never cared much for seth davis. seems like he just regurgitates main stream media comments. jay bilas is 100 times better.
to get a room in EL?
Purdue brought cash. they only trade cigarettes as a form of currency in east Lansing.
Delayed and finally canceled their flight. They ended up getting ON a bus at like 3 in the morning and arriving at 5 am. I think in that condition my fraternity intramural team might have had a chance against them. I would not hang my head if I was a Purdue fan over that game.
But I think this ends up being a game we win and at the end wondering how it happened.
You're crazy. Team was not ready to play and it will cost them.
Unbiased analysis: Seth Davis is a prick
lol. So true.
Trey playing like a leader once again, he's keeping us somewhat alive. Arkansas CAN'T have a second half like the first fan they? Assuming not, Michigan is only down 13 right now, though it feels like 20 to us at home. This game is far from over and the Novaks and Stuart Douglas's of this team (and coach Beilein) will get them rallied for the 2nd half.
Rebound. Rebound. Rebound. Get the 50/50 balls we should be getting. Slow them down, I like the zone looks. Michigan needs to chip away, obviously, but THJ needs to settle for only the wide open 3's and otherwise get to the rack. I think Smotz needs to arrive today also for Michigan to have a shot; keep battling for rebounds, hit a few shots, and get to the foul line.
Michigan ain't outta this. I could be wrong but I foresee an interesting 2nd half. The Maize can win this thing (assuming the Gods feel they've done enough for Arkansas' shooting!).
That would be awesome if we actually had more than one Zack Novak and Stu Douglass.
is 46% FG @ Home per an AK fan. So, if they return to it, could be a good second half.
I wish we were playing Alaska (AK) instead of Arkansas (AR).
I wasn't sending snail mail.
46% is still > 39%. If we don't shoot better in the 2nd half, we're done.
i went to cbs sports website to check out the 1H box score. it shows smotrycz as "did not play". i think they are right.