Maybe it is time to go back to on-field huddles

Submitted by philidor's legacy on October 7th, 2019 at 5:50 PM

I know we all got excited about " speed-in-space" but that's not really happening. The cumulative season stats show UM's time-of-possession is about 5 min less per game than our opponent. The stats show that we are converting only 36% of 3rd downs. Maybe it is time to go back to the huddle to eat time - slow the game down - keep the ball as long as we can. 

Bluedream

October 8th, 2019 at 12:42 AM ^

Urban Meyer called his 2012 WRs “a clown show” and said they didn’t really start blocking well until 2014. 

I’ve been saying this since people started getting all fired up, this transition will not bare fruit until 2020. Our offense was all sorts of bad, it’s not getting fixed overnight. 

ijohnb

October 7th, 2019 at 9:17 PM ^

All of that may be true, but to the OPs point, if our offense is going to suck, why not try to eat clock and keep our defense off the field.   There ain’t no speed and there ain’t no space.  Perhaps the offense could give the D a break at least.

1VaBlue1

October 7th, 2019 at 6:04 PM ^

WOW!!!  Finally we get some hard hitting analysis of what needs to be done to get the offense back in shape!  On-field huddles to slow down the game and gain ToP!  Genius!!!

MonkeyMan

October 7th, 2019 at 6:05 PM ^

I like this idea and I would add: let Shea call the plays.

Before going all ballistic on my idea hear me out: I think QB's, in general, have a better idea of what plays they can pull off, at any given moment, than OC's do. Much of the failure of many teams is the coaches don't let the kids take responsibility for the game. Shea is in a much better position to know when he is up for a run, bomb, or hurry up than some guy on the sideline with a chart. its his body and we all know when our body is ready for something.

Plus, with a QB calling the shots you can get  a true hurry up offense. 

What were doing ain't working. 

CMHCFB

October 7th, 2019 at 7:43 PM ^

Please please end silly posts like that with an /s.  Otherwise some of the simple folk like me can misunderstand and think you actually believe that.  Tell me you don’t actually believe that....   

You do know the all 22 view of the QB is significantly less optimal than a view from the booth, right?   You can’t be arguing that a QB who is struggling to read defenses is in a better position to attack what he thinks he is seeing?  You expect him to have a better understanding of down and distance tendencies than a group in the booth with sheets of data in front of them?   

/s is your friend 

MonkeyMan

October 7th, 2019 at 8:51 PM ^

There is also a lot the QB can see that the guy in the booth can't- like fatigue, confusion

Also, a QB that can read the D can change when the D makes last minute changes- its too late for the guy in the booth to react

Worked for Manning

Tools Of Ignorance

October 7th, 2019 at 10:08 PM ^

What you're describing is called an audible in this particular sport. Believe it or not, this head coach has even trusted a few of his former QBs to use this profound play call at the line. It just helps to trust the QB you have to be able to make decisions.

In what sport have you ever seen this method employed? The closest I can even think of is a catcher calling pitches. Even that takes an advanced knowledge of each pitcher and batters tendencies.

Coaches call plays. That's how it works

Tunneler

October 7th, 2019 at 6:05 PM ^

I am watching the replay right now.  Just got to the point in the game on our 3rd possession where we fumbled twice (& recovered) & threw an interception consecutively.  I'm going to ff it to the end now.

bronxblue

October 7th, 2019 at 6:06 PM ^

Or Michigan can just get good at the thing they're doing instead of going back to a thing they weren't good at last year.

And to think, we haven't even gotten to basketball season and the inevitable "Do it the way Beilein did it!!!!"

StephenRKass

October 7th, 2019 at 6:41 PM ^

No. Just no. Brian et al have it right. There has been too much whiplash for too long. Stay the course. It just will take more time until the offense becomes second nature. Remember: we've changed the OC too many times, which is too hard for the players. Quitting too fast is a big problem. Michigan should (EDIT: could/might) win 9 games this year, with another possible in the bowl game. That's not ideal, but it isn't bad. One application of "Those who stay will be champions" is that we need to stick with the offensive scheme. Can it be improved? Sure. But don't throw the whole thing out and start again. I am 100% with Harbaugh: the offense is making strides, and will get there.

Teeba

October 7th, 2019 at 6:59 PM ^

I question your choice of the word “should.” “Could” win 9 games, but based on everything I’ve learned in life, we should not be favored against OSU or at PSU. MSU and ND are toss ups in my opinion. Maybe we’re favored against MSU but underdogs against ND. We could win 9, but I think 8 is more likely unless a light switch goes on for the offense. It could happen. The defense certainly turned things around after Wisconsin, but Don Brown has a track record of success. Our offense has a track record of continuously underperforming expectations.

StephenRKass

October 7th, 2019 at 7:34 PM ^

Yeah, I agree with you. It would have been better to write "could," or "might" or "should be able" rather than just "should." Right now it looks like a loss to OSU. I have the other three as being tossups, but not sure losses. I think we can beat MSU. And with ND at home in the Big House, that helps a bit. PSU on the road at night? Unlikely. However, I personally felt the defense might be better this year than last year, and I see that possibly happening. I think it was Urban Meyer who said that transitioning to a new offense was very hard. This is why I can believe that Harbaugh is saying about the offense making strides. They have one game and 12 days to have a plan in place for PSU. It is now crunch time.

BernardC

October 7th, 2019 at 6:46 PM ^

I get the point that you are trying to make, that we'd give the D more of a breather.  But the same could be accomplished by just being better at keeping the chaines moving. At this point we've committed to going in a certain direction and you can't just pull the plug on the transition midstream because of growing pains.

MichAtl85

October 7th, 2019 at 6:58 PM ^

Yea that’ll win us games...

the worst thing to do is blow everything up. I don’t know what needs to change but hopefully the coaches figure stuff out. They’ve got a few practices, another tune up game, and then shit gets real. 

Theres a reason we moved away from last years offense. It was horrendous in the osu game regardless of the final score and it sucked when playing from behind. 

Maybe Gattis was an awful hire maybe we need a QB change but the offense last year wasn’t cutting it. 

Bluedream

October 8th, 2019 at 12:52 AM ^

We blew it up and hired Gattis. Unless we give it 2 years we’re going to blow it up again and be right back where we started except I don’t think 3 WRs who should be the backbone of the offense will stick around to see how it turns out.

I’m not sold on Gattis. If he was god’s gift to offense he’d be calling plays for Franklin who chose his other 6+ year assistant. 

The playcalling is average, the execution sucks. Shea isn’t a good QB and the OL isn’t progressing.  Harbaugh put a first year coordinator into the deep end without much of a support network. The only guy who called plays is Warriner and the guy had a bunch of NFL guys looking like crap when he was calling plays at OSU. 

M-Lemon

October 7th, 2019 at 6:59 PM ^

Well, it would give our defense a rest.  If you are going to go three-and-out, you might as well give the defense time to catch its breath and have a Gatorade.