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August 31st, 2009 at 6:38 PM
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on Locker Room Dissension

Lately, the popular analysis is that setting aside whether there were time limit violations, the episode evidences a locker room divided. I fail to see the basis for the conclusion.

If what is meant is that some of the players Rodriguez inherited opposed/oppose him, true. See Boren, Wermers, Clemons, etc. If the assertion is that current players are upset with Rodriguez, who are these players?

It is true that a "current starter" is one source for the Schad story. Why are we convinced this is not just another player that said "yeah man, we were with the team ALL DAY on Sundays" or "voluntary workouts aren't really voluntary," leading a reporter to put two and two together and deduce the violation? I think that is in fact the most likely scenario. I think it is unlikely that a current player is corresponding anonymously with Schad or Rosenber/Snyder and saying "it's true, all of it, get me out of here but don't print my name!"

The only current players who have been relied upon thus far are the freshmen, both of whom had no intention of suggesting wrongdoing by the team. Or even saying something negative. Why then, the conclusion that an unnamed current player has said more or said different?

It is clear there is dissension among players who HAVE played for Rodriguez. I keep reading some variation of 'clearly some players are not happy' or 'some of the players obviously wanted this story told'.

Which players? Who is still in the locker room and dissenting? This line of analysis has some appeal since it seems moderate and above-the-fray, but it needs to stop being lazily accepted without some specification as to why it has any merit.

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August 31st, 2009 at 6:48 PM | Agree with all of this. I (Score:1)
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Agree with all of this. I have wondered the same thing. A current starter may have said, "yeah we practice a lot" or something to that extent...whammo, Rosenberg has his "source."

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August 31st, 2009 at 6:50 PM | e-pinion (Score:1)
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IMO, I figured the dissention was within the AD, not the team. I read Brian's statement as such; "the allegations were leaked from within [the AD]". I'm a little confused how we got from Point A to THE TEAM IS DIVIDED!!!

Nobody home...

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August 31st, 2009 at 6:54 PM | bc rivals keep bringing it up (Score:1)
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bc rivals keep bringing it up as obviously occurring, 20 posters on here discuss the matter/other post, the topic bumps to the top and poof: concern!

here's an example.
Cousins just got named Captain. Dantonio might just pick Nichol to start. if the coach does not go with the offensive leader the team obviously has chosen, unhappiness will develop and Coach D will be looked at as an authoritarian who refuses the obvious democratic choice. what a locker room that must be.

discuss.

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August 31st, 2009 at 7:14 PM | The media (in this case ESPN) (Score:1)
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believe that the locker room will be divided because of the ~10 or so players that "ratted out" RR to the Freep.

They don't understand that of the known 6, 4 are not on the team, and 2 are freshmen whose quotes were out of context. I'm not sure how they get 10.

Anyway, the thinking is that there are ~10 + more who did not talk that are against this excessive training and this is in opposition to the other 80+ kids who support RR.

This of course, is complete BS, but it is why some press members think there is a problem.

"They're stuck with that quarterback (sophomore Braxton Miller) for the next two or three years, that's fine with me. He throws worse than (Tim) Tebow. - Steve Everitt

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August 31st, 2009 at 7:16 PM | I think the locker room will (Score:1)
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I think the locker room will be a strength. I think they will stand up for Coach Rod.

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August 31st, 2009 at 8:24 PM | And the freshmen. If I were a (Score:1)
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And the freshmen. If I were a senior on a team and I watched a freshman get taken advantage of like that (not like THAT...) I'd be furious. It shouldn't be hard for RR to convince these kids that they REALLY need to whip some ass this season.

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August 31st, 2009 at 7:27 PM | Same Old, Same Old (Score:1)
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It is the same old meme that is always trotted out whenever anything happens on any team.

When Favre joined the Vikings: Dissension
When McDaniels is named coach of Broncos: Dissension
etc.
etc.

Funny how all the dissension always disappears as soon as the team wins (guess it wasn't much of a dissension after all).

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August 31st, 2009 at 7:47 PM | No Dissent (Score:1)
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I think the Freep twisted a couple current player confirmations that players practice a lot into players don't want to practice a lot. My view is that former players have beef, current players don't.

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August 31st, 2009 at 8:28 PM | Consider the October 2009 Muscle and Fitness Magazine... (Score:1)
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in which they are interviewing Tebow and Florida Gators. They are describing their training regime and it sounds very equal to Barwis'. The whole thing about anyone bitching about devoting extra time to improve themselves and the team just proves to me that there were more &^%$#@!! (just think female anatomy) on this team than true warriors.
The Carr teams of recent years were too lackadaisical and stagnant thus the continual losses to OSU and the near losses to MSU before we finally lost to them in our rebuilding year. Once you were a starter (under Carr) then it was etched in stone no matter whether "you brought it" day in or day out in practice or games. Enough of the free ride and play/workout like a true man!!! Also, note the subtle interchange of the words "practice" and "weight workout" or "film review".

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August 31st, 2009 at 9:05 PM | Locker Room (Score:1)
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I believe that with this group of seniors we should have no problem whatsoever in the locker room. I can't wait until gameday to see how motivated our players are.

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August 31st, 2009 at 9:10 PM | I'm hoping that BG and Minor (Score:1)
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I'm hoping that BG and Minor (among others) really step up and take charge of "their" season.

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Hits the town, he drinks his wages.
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