[LOCKED] Are masks required at Yost for the hockey game on Saturday?
Submitted by oldblue
on October 7th, 2021 at 12:54 PM
Any news about basketball at Crisler?
EDIT - Locking this for the usual reasons, of course. Some people cannot help but be tossers and wankers about mask requirements, even when the question was purely informational. - LSA
Masks are required at Yost unless actively eating or drinking. I don't believe they've announced anything specific for basketball but I expect it will be the same since the indoor mask mandate covers all campus buildings currently.
Yes. They’ve been required for all campus buildings so it’s been extended to Yost (unless eating or drinking) and likely will be for Crisler as well. They should probably just get rid of food and drink at Yost and Crisler too so you don’t have the entire stadium taking masks off to eat/drink. People can survive for 2-3 hours without. But hey, what do I (or science) know.
I'm someone who typically sips water throughout the day. I feel better physically and mentally when I do that. Being denied that for 3 hours would matter to me.
If you want to tell me "you're vaccinated, but you need to wear a mask to watch the game", my response will be "fine, OK."
But if you also say "you are also not allowed to drink water for the next 3 hours", my response would be "That's absurd. You already have a mask policy. Whatever incremental public safety benefit comes from also having this no water rule, I do not find it to be worth the cost. I will not be attending this game."
At some point, cost vs benefit comes in. A no eat/drink policy seems like the incremental costs are way higher than the incremental benefits.
So an anecdote from yesterday. I live in Broomfield County, Colorado - my barber is in Louisville, Boulder County, Colorado.
I drive up there. And learn from the sign on the door - Boulder County evidently has an indoor mask mandate now. Nowhere else in Metro Denver has this, but Boulder County does. (seriously, I live 5 miles away and never heard about this being instituted a few weeks ago).
OK, fine. Go back to my car, take a cloth mask out of my glove compartment, put it on, get my haircut.
Now the mask kind of smelled and was gross. You know, because it's been sitting in my glove compartment unused for weeks, in a hot Colorado summer. But is that not much different from just carrying a mask around in one's pocket?
If these mandates are actually useful (I won't offer an opinion on that), it seems like they should be state-wide or not at all. You get these regional policies, nobody even knows 95% of the time, and that leads to people wearing unclean and gross and dirty masks - which is arguably more harmful than not wearing a mask at all.
So are the skaters "mandated" to wear shields in college? The poor sheeple should be free to take a puck off the grill if they want to. They should just go pro.
The irony of referring to masked individuals collaborating for some social good to prevent the spread of a highly contagious, but preventable disease "leper" is thick.
The irony of virtue signaling due to a hypocritical, asinine, double-standard between indoor arena policies and sardine-can stuffing 100k+ at the Big House is thick.
(And don't give me the "its outside so its different" b.s.)
Nobody says masks are perfect or the policies make sense in all circumstances even when applied at a University level, but the science and common sense support it. It's an easy and small thing to do in order to support your team if you choose to attend. Or not.
I'll attend w/ my kids and wear a mask and it will be a bigger deal for me than them.
Wait until you hear about all the people who die from age and obesity every year from things that are not a danger to most people. Its going to shock you.
It's not a comparison. Lots of old, frail and obese people die from things that are no danger to most people. Some of those things are communicable diseases. Some are not. Most are "preventable" (colds, falling down, heart disease, etc.) and those at risk conduct themselves as they want.
None of this has anything to do with mask efficacy either BTW.
I don't care to throw my hat in the mask debate, but I just want to point out that "virtue signaling," as it is currently used, is effectively meaningless as a phrase, as literally *any* opinion, interaction, or outwardly expressed thought one has can be accused of being virtue signaling.
"I want to wear a mask" sure, virtue signaling.
"mask policies are b.s. I refuse to wear them" regret to inform that's also virtue signaling.
If you accuse someone of virtue signaling all you are doing is projecting your beliefs onto others. Those with a thesaurus on hand may find that another way to say "projecting your beliefs" is "virtue signaling"
Some Michigan grads got into the school because they are really, really good at working hard, following directions and telling teachers what they want to hear.
Others got in because they are intelligent, critical thinkers who believe an opinion has to hold up to scrutiny.
These mask policies have really accentuated those differences.
LOL, apparently YOU are the one lacking tolerance. You would rather not see your team and root them on just because someone asks you to wear a mask, talk about being intolerant!!!
MMBbones
October 7th, 2021 at 12:57 PM ^
Please may this remain factual and not become political....
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East German Judge
October 7th, 2021 at 1:09 PM ^
Highly doubt it, but nevertheless....
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YouKnowNothing…
October 7th, 2021 at 2:26 PM ^
SMH. Looks like OP missed my PSA last week.
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Sione For Prez
October 7th, 2021 at 12:58 PM ^
Masks are required at Yost unless actively eating or drinking. I don't believe they've announced anything specific for basketball but I expect it will be the same since the indoor mask mandate covers all campus buildings currently.
https://mgoblue.com/sports/2021/8/18/university-of-michigan-athletics-face-covering-policy.aspx
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Hab
October 7th, 2021 at 12:59 PM ^
Aaaaand, lock thread and make sticky.
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XM - Mt 1822
October 7th, 2021 at 1:02 PM ^
or else...
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theintegral
October 7th, 2021 at 2:04 PM ^
Lock? Yes. Question has been asked and answered.
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BTB grad
October 7th, 2021 at 1:01 PM ^
Yes. They’ve been required for all campus buildings so it’s been extended to Yost (unless eating or drinking) and likely will be for Crisler as well. They should probably just get rid of food and drink at Yost and Crisler too so you don’t have the entire stadium taking masks off to eat/drink. People can survive for 2-3 hours without. But hey, what do I (or science) know.
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NittanyFan
October 7th, 2021 at 1:09 PM ^
Getting rid of food and drink sounds like it would tank attendance. That would be completely overboard, IMO.
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Ihatebux
October 7th, 2021 at 1:14 PM ^
And most importantly getting rid of food and drink would lose the university ALOT of money...and after all isn't that all that matters.
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NittanyFan
October 7th, 2021 at 2:16 PM ^
I'm someone who typically sips water throughout the day. I feel better physically and mentally when I do that. Being denied that for 3 hours would matter to me.
If you want to tell me "you're vaccinated, but you need to wear a mask to watch the game", my response will be "fine, OK."
But if you also say "you are also not allowed to drink water for the next 3 hours", my response would be "That's absurd. You already have a mask policy. Whatever incremental public safety benefit comes from also having this no water rule, I do not find it to be worth the cost. I will not be attending this game."
At some point, cost vs benefit comes in. A no eat/drink policy seems like the incremental costs are way higher than the incremental benefits.
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East German Judge
October 7th, 2021 at 1:11 PM ^
Attended a couple of volleyball games at Crisler, and masks were required.
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PeterKlima
October 7th, 2021 at 1:55 PM ^
#Science !!!!
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njvictor
October 7th, 2021 at 1:11 PM ^
How about you bring one in your pocket just in case they are?
Do people really not at this point just have a mask in their pocket at all times in case the need for it arises?
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MarcusBrooks
October 7th, 2021 at 1:24 PM ^
ONLY when going to A2 do I have a mask in my pocket.
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CWoodIsMyBoiii
October 7th, 2021 at 1:32 PM ^
Is....is this supposed to be some sort of flex?
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MarkyMarkWitho…
October 7th, 2021 at 1:48 PM ^
No - just highlighting how A2 seems to be hyper-sensitive about masks and their edicts are much more draconian than other locales.
Basically saying he doesn't need it unless in A2.
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NittanyFan
October 7th, 2021 at 2:04 PM ^
So an anecdote from yesterday. I live in Broomfield County, Colorado - my barber is in Louisville, Boulder County, Colorado.
I drive up there. And learn from the sign on the door - Boulder County evidently has an indoor mask mandate now. Nowhere else in Metro Denver has this, but Boulder County does. (seriously, I live 5 miles away and never heard about this being instituted a few weeks ago).
OK, fine. Go back to my car, take a cloth mask out of my glove compartment, put it on, get my haircut.
Now the mask kind of smelled and was gross. You know, because it's been sitting in my glove compartment unused for weeks, in a hot Colorado summer. But is that not much different from just carrying a mask around in one's pocket?
If these mandates are actually useful (I won't offer an opinion on that), it seems like they should be state-wide or not at all. You get these regional policies, nobody even knows 95% of the time, and that leads to people wearing unclean and gross and dirty masks - which is arguably more harmful than not wearing a mask at all.
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4godkingandwol…
October 7th, 2021 at 1:15 PM ^
I'm convinced anyone who brings a question like that to a message board is intentionally trying to troll or create a flame war.
Is it really that hard to get accurate information from a more reputable source than random message board posters?
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East German Judge
October 7th, 2021 at 1:39 PM ^
It would be nice if the UM AD website had some information like that on it!!!
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MGoSoftball
October 7th, 2021 at 2:37 PM ^
Are you saying Brandon is back? Oh my Lord.
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October 7th, 2021 at 1:21 PM ^
Don't sell big gulps and tubs o'poporn.
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MarcusBrooks
October 7th, 2021 at 1:23 PM ^
yes
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Sambojangles
October 7th, 2021 at 1:26 PM ^
The goalies, at least, will be wearing them. The skaters, too, though I think those are more often referred to as a cage or faceshield than a mask.
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2Blue4You
October 7th, 2021 at 1:36 PM ^
So are the skaters "mandated" to wear shields in college? The poor sheeple should be free to take a puck off the grill if they want to. They should just go pro.
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MarcusBrooks
October 7th, 2021 at 1:26 PM ^
I was going to get tickets to hockey until my wife reminded me A2 is on their mask kick.
decided not to go.
won't be going to crisler either until this mandate is over.
just not worth it to overspend on tickets and have to sit their like a leper.
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4godkingandwol…
October 7th, 2021 at 1:32 PM ^
The irony of referring to masked individuals collaborating for some social good to prevent the spread of a highly contagious, but preventable disease "leper" is thick.
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MarkyMarkWitho…
October 7th, 2021 at 1:41 PM ^
The irony of virtue signaling due to a hypocritical, asinine, double-standard between indoor arena policies and sardine-can stuffing 100k+ at the Big House is thick.
(And don't give me the "its outside so its different" b.s.)
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2Blue4You
October 7th, 2021 at 1:47 PM ^
But it's outside and it's different.
Nobody says masks are perfect or the policies make sense in all circumstances even when applied at a University level, but the science and common sense support it. It's an easy and small thing to do in order to support your team if you choose to attend. Or not.
I'll attend w/ my kids and wear a mask and it will be a bigger deal for me than them.
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MarkyMarkWitho…
October 7th, 2021 at 1:54 PM ^
But it's NOT different. You just choose to view it that way, and that's fine.
Being outside at the Big House is not the same as being outside at say a UM softball game.
Your space at the Big House is constricted far more than in any other stadium at UM.
You are exposed to tens of THOUSANDS more people under those conditions.
And the science and common sense are definitely divided on mask efficacy, but keep going on stating it as fact.
And you are free to restrict and muzzle your children however you choose.
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2Blue4You
October 7th, 2021 at 1:59 PM ^
I'm sorry you can't weed through the words and detect snarkiness.
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CWoodIsMyBoiii
October 7th, 2021 at 2:06 PM ^
700,000 dead Americans and there are still people out there like this....
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PeterKlima
October 7th, 2021 at 2:15 PM ^
Wait until you hear about all the people who die from age and obesity every year from things that are not a danger to most people. Its going to shock you.
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DetroitBlue
October 7th, 2021 at 2:47 PM ^
Last I checked, age and obesity aren’t communicable, but please go on with your ignorant and inapt comparisons.
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PeterKlima
October 7th, 2021 at 3:03 PM ^
It's not a comparison. Lots of old, frail and obese people die from things that are no danger to most people. Some of those things are communicable diseases. Some are not. Most are "preventable" (colds, falling down, heart disease, etc.) and those at risk conduct themselves as they want.
None of this has anything to do with mask efficacy either BTW.
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Couzen Rick's
October 7th, 2021 at 2:13 PM ^
I don't care to throw my hat in the mask debate, but I just want to point out that "virtue signaling," as it is currently used, is effectively meaningless as a phrase, as literally *any* opinion, interaction, or outwardly expressed thought one has can be accused of being virtue signaling.
"I want to wear a mask" sure, virtue signaling.
"mask policies are b.s. I refuse to wear them" regret to inform that's also virtue signaling.
If you accuse someone of virtue signaling all you are doing is projecting your beliefs onto others. Those with a thesaurus on hand may find that another way to say "projecting your beliefs" is "virtue signaling"
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PeterKlima
October 7th, 2021 at 2:03 PM ^
Some Michigan grads got into the school because they are really, really good at working hard, following directions and telling teachers what they want to hear.
Others got in because they are intelligent, critical thinkers who believe an opinion has to hold up to scrutiny.
These mask policies have really accentuated those differences.
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taistreetsmyhero
October 7th, 2021 at 2:07 PM ^
I see you're going for the meta-irony approach
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PeterKlima
October 7th, 2021 at 2:23 PM ^
"I know you are, but what am I."
Amirtie?
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DetroitBlue
October 7th, 2021 at 2:49 PM ^
Says the guy comparing age-related illnesses and obesity to an airborne, contagious disease. SMFH
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PeterKlima
October 7th, 2021 at 3:15 PM ^
I look forward to your world of stopping communicable diseases. We HAVE to be able to DO something. I believe. It's not hubris.
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Kapitan Howard
October 7th, 2021 at 1:36 PM ^
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East German Judge
October 7th, 2021 at 1:40 PM ^
This is from all the other lepers who will happily go and support their team....
BTW, I suggest you find a new team to support. We will be fine without you. Have a happy life.
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MarkyMarkWitho…
October 7th, 2021 at 1:43 PM ^
Ah - you can just smell the tolerance on that comment.
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East German Judge
October 7th, 2021 at 1:45 PM ^
LOL, apparently YOU are the one lacking tolerance. You would rather not see your team and root them on just because someone asks you to wear a mask, talk about being intolerant!!!
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MarkyMarkWitho…
October 7th, 2021 at 1:55 PM ^
Thank you for projecting someone else's beliefs and thoughts onto me. Excellent work.
I never said any of those things.
But keep ranting. :)
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MH20
October 7th, 2021 at 1:47 PM ^
You won't be missed.
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taistreetsmyhero
October 7th, 2021 at 2:04 PM ^
Sounds like the mandates worked in this case
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CantRead-CantWrite
October 7th, 2021 at 2:10 PM ^
via GIPHY
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SpamCityCentral
October 7th, 2021 at 1:40 PM ^
1) There was a post last week I believe that specifically answered this question.
2) You could have just searched mgoblue.com or typed into google "masks yost arena"
3) Have a nice day :)
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