Lions-Saints Update (Saints with COVID+ Player)
See link below. Sounds like a Saint FB tested positive after taking the flight to Detroit. He was sitting next to Kamara FWIW.
October 4th, 2020 at 1:07 AM ^
Holy cow it's almost like this virus is really contagious
October 4th, 2020 at 8:36 AM ^
So are many others. But we should shut everything down for THIS one though.
October 4th, 2020 at 8:51 AM ^
No dissenting opinions allowed here. Must cling to fear and paranoia
October 4th, 2020 at 10:04 AM ^
Are you saying fear isn't justified? I'm very afraid of passing this disease along to my elderly parents. I'm afraid that careless and ignorant people are infecting others and making things much worse. Does that make me paranoid? I'm curious if you even know what paranoia is.
October 4th, 2020 at 3:07 PM ^
Paranoia is what has locked up every country and economy in the world except Sweden (and a few states like South Dakota.)
October 4th, 2020 at 10:26 AM ^
You get to have your opinion; you also get to have it shown as invalid and scientifically erroneous. It’s kind of like in school: you got to take test and do the same homework and provide your different answers, and then when they were wrong and mine were right, that wasn’t because someone was taking your freedom away.
October 4th, 2020 at 9:34 PM ^
Forgive me if I don't take mass media's "science" and fear porn as fact. There are dissenting opinions/science out there, it's hard to find because they get silenced (even on mgoblog) but they are there. Actual MD's that have lost jobs over their views that go against the accepted narrative. America (for the most part) is willingly bending over to tyranny and don't even know it.
October 4th, 2020 at 8:53 AM ^
Careful, misinformation police are watching. Don’t go against the narrative.
October 4th, 2020 at 9:43 AM ^
Over 7 Million infected and over 200,000 dead , just in this country . Both numbers are not going down.
Think about who is going against that narrative . Ill give you a hint , one of them was just sent to Walter Reed after catching this "Flu"
October 4th, 2020 at 2:59 PM ^
wait, it is possible for dead people to come back to life? If not, the number of dead will never go down.
October 4th, 2020 at 3:12 PM ^
Well, if less people stopped acting like the 200k who already died weren't insignificant collateral damage in their quest to be able to eat at a restaurant and watch college football, maybe we wouldn't be adding to that number at a fantastic rate.
But yes, you are correct that none of these dead people will be able to rise from the dead. A truly compelling rebuttal.
October 4th, 2020 at 10:34 AM ^
No, just don't continue telling outright lies because you can't accept reality. More like that.
October 4th, 2020 at 8:57 AM ^
What examples of a virus that is both as contagious and as deadly as this one can you provide?
October 4th, 2020 at 9:56 AM ^
As contagious, I will give you. When you say “as deadly,” you realize that for people under 70, the disease has a 99.8% survival rate right?
October 4th, 2020 at 10:15 AM ^
First, it is the combination of those two factor that I was referring to. And second, do you realize that right now in the US, if you compare deaths by age from Covid this year by age https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
to leading causes of death by age in 2018 by age (most recent year I could find to compare),https://www.cdc.gov/injury/images/lc-charts/leading_causes_of_death_by_age_group_2018_1100w850h.jpg
Covid would be the 6th leasing cause of death for both the 15 to 24 year old category and the 25 to 34 year old category, the 5th leading category for 35 to 44, the 4th leading category for 45 to 54 year olds and the third leading category for 55 to 64 year olds. Unless you are under 15, if you die of a virus in the US 2020, it is much more likely to be Covid than any other virus.
October 4th, 2020 at 3:00 PM ^
so disingenous......the median age upon death from Covid is HIGHER than the average life span....but keep spreading the fear.
October 4th, 2020 at 4:37 PM ^
This post suggests that you don’t understand either english or math.
Michgoblue’s statement may have been disingenuous or just plain ignorant. Providing data to counter it is neither.
as for math, the relationship between the median age of covid death and the average age of us death has nothing to do with whether covid could be in the top ten leading causes of death for every age group in the US down to under 15.
Please tell me you don’t have a Michigan degree.
October 4th, 2020 at 2:59 PM ^
and for people under 50 it is less deadly than.....everything.
October 4th, 2020 at 4:32 PM ^
Is it math or english or both that you don’t understand? If something (in this case Covid) were to be the 5th leading cause of death for people who were between 35 and 44, that would mean that there were literally only 4 things that were more deadly for that age group. To make it easier for you to understand, so far this year, covid has killed 3956 people in the 35 to 44 age range. In 2018, examples of things that killed less people in that age group- include: homicide (3304), liver disease (3108), the flu (956).
Usually when you try to refute a point that includes the underlying data, you make at least some attempt to refute that data, instead of just making a completely ridiculous assertion.
October 4th, 2020 at 9:28 AM ^
This guy must work in public health
October 4th, 2020 at 1:14 AM ^
Ugh can we just get one Michigan game in at least?? I have a bad feeling about big ten football.
October 4th, 2020 at 4:34 AM ^
No kidding. Thinking the same.
October 4th, 2020 at 7:52 AM ^
October 4th, 2020 at 9:57 AM ^
I’m not going to downplay COVID as a general health threat, but I’m not sure why so many on this board remain convinced football is doomed to fail. CFB is 3 weeks in and had only one game postponed this week from what I can tell- a notable decrease from previous weeks. This is without the daily rapid testing protocol the B1G is intending to implement. Are there going to be some positives leading to starters sitting out and weird results and upsets? Sure. Does it look like the majority of games are going to be canceled and a full season shutdown is likely? As of right now, doesn’t look like it.
I can’t help but think those clinging to football being a disaster relates to those individuals thinking a reasonably successful football season goes against their views that the virus is a great human tragedy. Both can be true.
October 4th, 2020 at 10:38 AM ^
What’s your definition of failure? Rationalizing death rates to justify success is quite odd to my ethics. Needing to consistently postpone, cancel games, and then put people in quarantine to trace seems like a failure of public health safety. We kept hearing how these players are safer being tested—well, they’re getting the virus, making them part of the continued spread of the contagion. The fact that we sacrifice health safety and they too many people see the risk of catching it as worth “normalcy” is a failure.
To put it in opposite terms, I am not surprised that a successful season to the anti-science, anti-mask crowd means contributing to case increases and, thus spread. That narrow view of: well, they played through all the cases, had lots of disruptions, but we got ourselves a champion.
That it is okay if your grandpa dies 5-10 years earlier because you wanted to see OSU get throttled by Alabama for the upteenth time is a failure of societal beliefs. I imagine when you are 74 and in otherwise good health that you’ll be okay with your life being reduced to a number.
I have colleagues who are still doing their jobs well who are above 65. My in-laws and my mom are all that age or older. You guys are dicks. These people have plenty of life left.
October 4th, 2020 at 10:50 AM ^
While I’m not predicting a shutdown of the season, I think we are likely to see a growing number of cancellations in future weeks. More than 30 states have a growing number of cases. https://www.covidexitstrategy.org/
In the Big Ten:
Indiana - 32% increase in cases in last 14 days and a test positivity of 12.9% and increasing
Iowa - 6% increase in cases with a test positivity of 18.9% and increasing
Nebraska 42% increase in cases and 13.0% positivity and increasing
Wisconsin 41% increase in cases and 21.9% positivity and increasing
Wisconsin, Nebraska and Iowa are all in top ten in US for new cases per capita https://covidactnow.org/?s=1100245
October 4th, 2020 at 11:02 AM ^
That or they just don't want to admit being wrong on anything covid related, as if someone is keeping score of "wins" in dumpster fire covid threads.
October 4th, 2020 at 1:14 AM ^
Update: It sounds like the Saints player is former Lion, Michael Burton. He’s awaiting a confirmatory test to rule out a false positive.
At least 3 other players were in close proximity to him during the flight. One is believed to be Kamara, as mentioned in the OP.
October 4th, 2020 at 9:56 AM ^
Burton’s retest was negative. Game on!
October 4th, 2020 at 12:21 PM ^
I knew the lions would find a way to lose this
October 4th, 2020 at 2:46 PM ^
Matt Patricia has to go.....I mean c'mon man he was brought in for Defense and they are horrible. Saints went the length of the field on 4 straight possessions! #FIREPATRICA
October 4th, 2020 at 3:04 PM ^
Wierd....a false positive. hmmmmm. And I would have had to quarantine (and everyone else around me) for 14 days if that had been me.
October 4th, 2020 at 5:11 AM ^
I was surprised the NFL made it as long as they did without any major issues. They sure are making up for lost time.
October 4th, 2020 at 7:42 AM ^
Looks like it was a false positive
October 4th, 2020 at 8:21 AM ^
A Saints player had a positive COVID-19 test Saturday, but sources said a retest came back negative and that contact tracing found negative tests among those players as well.
nothing will stop the lions from losing now.
October 4th, 2020 at 9:07 AM ^
October 4th, 2020 at 10:11 AM ^
I for one would appreciate an update the thread title with this new information.
October 4th, 2020 at 8:35 AM ^
In some weird way, I am sort of pleased that the game will - as of this moment - move forward. As a Lions fan, I do like my existential dread to be on a reasonably normal schedule whenever possible.
October 4th, 2020 at 9:42 AM ^
It is what it is.
October 4th, 2020 at 9:57 AM ^
Until it isn't what it was.
October 4th, 2020 at 10:41 AM ^
Play-ball, im feeling a Lions victory although I thought Navy would defeat Air Force yesterday so there you go....
October 4th, 2020 at 11:50 AM ^
So how exactly do you know with any certainty which of the two tests is correct? My father-in-law got a positive test but wasn’t feeling any symptoms. He asked his doc about a re-test and the answer was that even if it came back negative that isn’t conclusive proof... he still had to quarantine for 14 days.
He did get an antibody test later after quarantine that came back negative so it looks like he didn’t actually have it.
Its good he tested negative but that player should not be in the stadium today
October 4th, 2020 at 12:29 PM ^
6 starters out for NO. Must win for Lions. If we lose, fire Patricia and start tanking
October 4th, 2020 at 12:48 PM ^
Good grief people! Can't we have just one discussion about a football game and acknowledge the impact COVID might have on it without getting into debates about public health (about which very few of us have enough information and expertise to have a useful opinion) and who is to blame for whatever problem is bugging you?! Just one? Please? I mean yeah, the Lions are bad, but is a global pandemic really your idea of an amusing distraction to take your mind off football?
October 4th, 2020 at 12:52 PM ^
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