Kwity Paye rumored to be gone

Submitted by Magnus on August 14th, 2020 at 3:43 PM

According to The Fort, Kwity Paye is "already gone" to prepare for the NFL draft (LINK). Meanwhile, Ambry Thomas - who missed a big chunk of 2019 fall camp - was already missing from practice and was probably planning to opt out.

So even if Michigan plays a spring season, those are a couple names that we probably shouldn't expect to see on the field.

Personally, I hope we can manage to have a spring football season and that the NCAA will allow early enrollees to play. But it looks like it's "next man up" at DE and CB, and I'm sure there will be more.

bronxblue

August 14th, 2020 at 3:48 PM ^

Doesn't surprise me; it's highly unlikely there will be a season and guys prepping for the NFL aren't likely to take risks in the spring so close to the draft.

Wish them both luck.

Magnus

August 14th, 2020 at 3:56 PM ^

I agree. The guys who were gone for sure in 2021 are likely to be gone, even if there's a spring season. I would expect that for Paye, Collins, Thomas, etc. will not play for Michigan again. 

The most interesting question marks for me are the guys headed into their junior season, like Hutchinson, Mayfield, etc. 

Michigan4Life

August 14th, 2020 at 11:59 PM ^

Mayfield struggled against OSU last season. Michigan threw everything at Chase Young with RB chipping at him, doubling him with TE/OT or OT/OG, cut block and would not allow Runyan/Mayfield on an island against him or they would get beaten. If Mayfield has a tape, it's against Alabama, not OSU.

bronxblue

August 14th, 2020 at 9:59 PM ^

Especially with linemen I tend to think scouts have an idea in their heads and it's based more on measurements and projection than necessarily how good a guy looks in a couple of games.  I'm sure they like more tape than less for everyone, but Mayfield has the body and the skillset to be a tackle in the NFL and I assume most scouts have him pegged as a late first/early second guy depending on who else comes out.

DoubleB

August 14th, 2020 at 11:47 PM ^

Magnus,

How does this project nationwide in your opinion? I feel the 2021 NFL Draft is one big "prisoner's dilemma." Do you leave now hoping there are less people in the draft in general or at your position specifically? You figure all the lower level kids who need that senior tape won't enter the draft (because they won't get drafted anyway) and at least some FBS seniors will return to play their last college season, which should mean less draftable players in the pool in general. So it seems to me if you're a mid-round prospect now, you should absolutely leave the team and start preparing for the combine now.

Zak

August 14th, 2020 at 3:52 PM ^

That's not surprising. I have a really hard time imagining how anyone can participate in any serious spring season and still fully participate in the pre-draft process. I'm wondering if there will be any exhibition games like the Shrine Bowl for underclassmen this Spring.

schreibee

August 15th, 2020 at 6:35 AM ^

"Draftable" includes day 3 picks.

If i could boost myself from day 3 to day 2, I'd play. The difference in $ & guarantees is too great. 

From day 2 to day 1, only if (like Mayfield & Nico, potentially) a great Spring campaign meant a potentially HUGE leap.

If it meant potentially moving up from 40ish to 30ish, I don't know if the inherent risks would be worth it. Especially since one of those risks is moving from 30ish to 40ish!

Michigan4Life

August 14th, 2020 at 4:00 PM ^

I would expect most of the projected day 1/2 prospects to be gone like Collins, Hutchinson, Thomas and McGrone. Mayfield is a wildcard. I've heard big variance of projection ranging from late 1st to mid 3rd and his play on the field doesn't scream 1st round pick but if he's being picked at 1st round, it's because of potential.

FatGuyTouchdown

August 14th, 2020 at 8:49 PM ^

no. People take right tackles in the first round all the time. And right tackles are right tackles because usually of a preference, Tristan Wirfs, Mike McGlinchey, Kaleb McGary, Ryan Ramczyk, and jack conklin were all first round picks recently. Lane Johnson and Mitch Schwartz may be the two best tackles in the league. In most cases, the RT is lining up against the defenses best pass rusher

Michigan4Life

August 15th, 2020 at 7:48 PM ^

That is a common misconception. In the NFL, you need two OTs who can pass block. If you're not athletic enough, you're not playing at OT. The best pass rushers tends to line up against RT but in reality, you really need good pass protectors across the board at OL or the DC will find ways to exploit that weakness.

BlueWolverine02

August 14th, 2020 at 6:45 PM ^

I think Collins is the only one on that list who is sure fire day 1/2 prospect, including Paye.  As Michigan fans we tend to over value our players, then are surprised when they drop to rounds 5-7 in the draft.  With another year of film I think some of these guys could have possibly moved up that high, but not right now.

Michigan4Life

August 15th, 2020 at 12:01 AM ^

Collins isn't a sure fire 1st round pick. He usually isn't among a top 2-3 WR in the B1G plus he has to deal with Chase, Bama WRs, etc. If any, it's day 2 which will be his landing spot, not at 1st.

At this point, none of the Michigan prospects are sure first 1st round picks but it seems like Paye/Hutchinson are the highest ranked Michigan prospect. I think NFL like McGrone a lot more than the mainstream media so McGrone has a chance to climb into late 1st round

WolverineinDallas

August 14th, 2020 at 4:04 PM ^

Man, I love Nico Collins so much. I really felt like he was going to have a huge year. So much potential. Very disappointing that we are not going to witness what was probably going to be one of the better performances from a Michigan wide receiver in recent memory.

MadMatt

August 14th, 2020 at 4:10 PM ^

So now the Mitch McGary/Caris Lavert syndrome is leaking over into football. I guess now the teams don't even have to play for the dong punches to be awarded. Wonderful! Thank you; may I have another?

Wolverine Devotee

August 14th, 2020 at 4:15 PM ^

Best of luck to both and thanks for the memories. 

Anyone who is mad at players opting out with this uncertain future of college sports should be ignored. 

Stringer Bell

August 14th, 2020 at 5:32 PM ^

I'm mad at the Big Ten for making this unilateral decision without even discussing it with the players.  The new commissioner is a rube just like Delaney.

 

Best of luck to the players, go get yours in the NFL.  Sorry you had no say in this decision.

Stringer Bell

August 15th, 2020 at 9:07 AM ^

Which is why there's great value in having a structured regimen centered around football where they would be frequently tested and monitored throughout the day.  Because without football these players are just gonna go out more and increase their likelihood of getting infected.  That has been true for most of these "outbreaks" that have occurred among sports teams; they occurred because the players went to parties or bars when they shouldn't have, not because they were working out or practicing on a football field.

Detroit-Buckeye

August 14th, 2020 at 8:11 PM ^

And there it is. "Let us protect you." This is very condescending.  The players and their parents are intelligent people and believe it or not, they care about their health. They have assessed the risk and they are not very worried. The BigTen did not respect this. 

Concussion protocols still allow for driving. The seatbelt laws still allows for driving. This decision allows for NOTHING. Your comparison does not hold up. The Big Ten just committed seppuku but hey, at least it appears honorable. At least the optics look good. 

CityOfKlompton

August 15th, 2020 at 12:43 AM ^

Kids + their parents do not typically lead to objective decision making. If we left these kinds of decisions up to 18-22 year-old kids who still believe they are invincible and their parents we would have lost college football a LONG time ago.

MRunner73

August 14th, 2020 at 4:34 PM ^

This is the fallout we feared. But Michigan is not alone. I'd bet the dreaded buckeyes will have more defections than us. Might take some comfort in that.