Bo Harbaugh

August 16th, 2020 at 3:48 PM ^

And sign off to absorb the costs of any lawsuits that can occur in the future.

The current model of amateurism simply can't cover the potential liabilities here.  No matter what the players and their families sign, lawyers will be coming at these schools for decades.

 

Double-D

August 16th, 2020 at 5:26 PM ^

They are losing billions by not playing.  I’m sure it would be more profitable to play and cover the risk of a lawsuit.

The likelihood of a player getting severely and permanently sick from Covid is not high.  Then it would have to be proven that the player contracted the disease because of football and not because they were at class, party, bar, grocery store, gas station etc.  Plus kids would be offered an opt out and not forced to play. If all of those things lined up how much would the settlement be?

I think this has less to do with a financial decision and more about the decision makers having to come up with a plan under scrutiny and not wanting to face intense criticism. This is the easy way out.

Or maybe they thought they were doing the right thing. 

bluebyyou

August 16th, 2020 at 7:43 PM ^

Your question should be not how much would the settlement be for a university but how much could the settlement be and it might not be a settlement but a jury award that could be staggering should one or more players suffer a Covid-related lifetime  of compromise.  Exactly who is going to underwrite the risk and at what cost? 

Your argument about proving the origin of the disease is not going to hold water.  Put the question of how the kid got sick in the hands of a good attorney and in front of a jury and get out your wallets.  He wasn't sick when he arrived on campus and go from there.

The decision not to play is largely being driven by lawyers getting advice from physicians.  I suspect the other three conferences not yet sitting this one out have been told the same thing but they have chosen for the moment to play a waiting game. 

There are no winners with the decisions the B1G, PAC 12, MAC, Ivy Leaguue, etc. reached but there is risk mitigation, and schools must do that to protect themselves even if it makes the fans unhappy.  Based on what has happened at Oklahoma and how Covid is spreading at ND, I expect more dominoes to fall.  It truly sucks but so does a pandemic.

What bothers me almost as much is how Michigan is bringing back a sizable chunk of the student body.  There, we have a money grab pure and simple and Schlissel, who should have gotten off his ass and addressed the athletes personally about his decision not to play fall sports, but did not, and the rest of the worthless trustees should be ashamed of themselves.

Mr Miggle

August 16th, 2020 at 4:07 PM ^

Does anyone think an online petition signed by whoever is more effective than a petition signed only by the players?

Getting a sizable percentage of players carries some weight, even if it is too late. Getting a large number of random names to sign on is just for show. 

bacon1431

August 16th, 2020 at 2:07 PM ^

What will mean more to the university presidents - millions of signatures of random people or doctors and lawyers explaining risks and liability? 

cobra14

August 16th, 2020 at 2:09 PM ^

Let’s see Fields sign that waiver that you can’t sue for long term issues or death for playing. I bet that doesn’t get signed so quick 

Rickett88

August 16th, 2020 at 2:27 PM ^

This is exactly it. Let everyone in society put their money where there mouth is. If you want to do something, wave your ability to sue down the line. 

Everyone has their opinion on how dangerous this virus is, and if you think you’ll be alright, let’s get things going again. If you don’t, stay home, but know you have an option when you feel safe enough... what ever your definition of safe is. 

BoFan

August 16th, 2020 at 3:07 PM ^

Wow, I just noticed the article said they already had 15 football players in the BIG10 with post COVID19 myocarditis when they made the decision.  That could easily ballon to 150 or more when students are back, contact drills happen, and games are played.  

BoFan

August 16th, 2020 at 7:36 PM ^

The only thing I read was that the 15 got it after having covid.  They didn’t release and more details (which schools and how were they screened before) and probably won’t. Does anyone know if college football players get screened for myocarditis as a matter of practice these days given the more recent but rare deaths?

Grampy

August 16th, 2020 at 4:19 PM ^

Sure, as long as it doesn’t abrogate my ability to sue someone who’s negligent behavior infects me with COVID-19.  People are welcome to assume risks for themselves, let’s just call it victimless risk.  COVID isn’t victimless, though.  When the behavior of a small minority insures that everyone else gets exposed, that’s when I get pissed off.  This isn’t an individual rights issue, it’s a societal rights issue.

Pepper Brooks

August 16th, 2020 at 2:58 PM ^

' “I want to know which is worse, to be ravished a hundred times by ... pirates, to have a buttock cut off, to run the gauntlet among the Bulgarians, to be whipped and hanged at an auto-da-fé, to be dissected, to row in the galleys—in short, to go through all the miseries we have undergone, or to stay here and have nothing to do?”

“It is a great question,” said Candide.'

OfficerRabbit

August 17th, 2020 at 10:34 AM ^

Great response... thank you. It's amazing to me how many MGo members are shitting on Fields for trying to do everything he can to play football this season. Are we not all college football fans? Shouldn't we all respect a student athlete for standing up, voicing his opinion, and using his platform to advocate for other players??

But his uniform is S&G.. so let's all just shit on him because of that. If this were Shea Patterson last year, he'd be getting applauded for doing the same thing.

nybluefan

August 16th, 2020 at 2:22 PM ^

Justin Fields and his family want to get paid for this football season.  Its as simple as that.  If he does not play, he gets no money for the Ohio State "organization."

blueheron

August 16th, 2020 at 2:44 PM ^

OK, he's currently projected as a Top 10 pick and it's backed up with plenty of film. What exactly could change drastically if he doesn't play? You think he's going to slip to the 4th round?

I'd be much more concerned if I were (say) Aidan[1] Hutchinson. I could definitely see why he'd want to play.

[1] Screwed up and put Chris the first time ...

vablue

August 16th, 2020 at 2:50 PM ^

He has one year of film and the year before that he was beat out by Fromm.  He plays at a school that has not produced any NFL QBs in quite some time.  I would say he has a lot to lose.  If he sits and others play, he falls quite far.  QBs are not like other positions, teams tend to take them in the first round or much later (exceptions obviously apply, but it is a much different position in the draft).

And Chris Hutchinson is an emergency room doctor, I don’t think he will get drafted again.

blueheron

August 16th, 2020 at 3:24 PM ^

"He plays at a school that has not produced any NFL QBs in quite some time."

He has no meaningful connection to the Tressel or Meyer eras. He played a single season for the new coach Ryan Day. Who gives a *#&% what happened under prior OSU regimes?

QB picks are evenly distributed through the draft. Here's a list from the last normal draft (2019):

1: 3

2: 1

3: 1

4: 2

5: 2

6: 2

7: 0

Chris corrected to Aidan, thanks.

The Deer Hunter

August 16th, 2020 at 4:45 PM ^

There is zero chance Fields falls out of the first round by not playing. If anything he may be at higher risk of moving down by being beat up or injured from an all conference schedule.  Gone are those potential 2020 highlight films from a BG, Buffalo or Miami of Ohio beatdowns.