Joe Lunardi sucks
how the F does Lunardi *still* have a 19-13 SEC team with zero good nonconference wins in over M?
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Add St. Mary's and its zero nonconf road wins & and Syracuse at 19-13 with a 9-10 conf record losing 4 of last 5. https://t.co/sUg9kniccb
— MGoBlueBD (@MGoBlueBD) March 11, 2016
St Mary's is in the WCC. They played one noncon game against a team better than 89th in Kenpom, and lost that game.
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That is all...
I think it was supposed to be satirical in nature, however Seth was not pleased and laid waste to Stephen's points:
http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/moderator-action-sticky-2015#comment-3797811
WTF? Everyone says Michigan needs to beat Indiana in the B1G Tourney to get in... I pin my hopes on beating Indiana, all week long.
Now it's not enough? Bilas and Lunardi both saying we're out? Talk about a dongpunch.
I wonder if you guys would be worrying so much about an 8-4 football team headed to the Poulan Weedeater Bowl.
Cuz that's about the level on which Beilein has his basketball program.
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i dont get it
UConn and GW both looking like they're going to win.
We seem to have some stupid groupthink working against us. Everyone is obsessing over that top 100 RPI record and giving the 4 top 25 wins and zero bad losses no credence whatsoever.
Every year Lunardi is less accurate than several bloggers with websites ending in ".wordpress.com." He's bad at his job and no one should care what he thinks.
This si completely false. Joe has missed three teams in the last four years.
Come on guys, let's at least be honest.
Ok Joe
A performance matched or bettered by Patrick Stevens, Andy Bottoms, the anonymous blogger behind 1-3-1 Sports, Dre, Syracusefan7 and some guy named "Beer". And probably a dozen or two others as well but I wasn't paying attention.
That is empirically false.
Is this what disrespekt feels like?
we are 3-4 against the top 4 teams in the BIG, plus a win against TX; no bad losses. that should be enough.
i don't get how wisky is solidly in and we are out. wisky is now 12-7 in BIG. we are 12-8. wisky is 3-5 against the top 4 teams in BIG. but i guess they beat us. UConn beat us too.
Its crazy that there is so much focus on the top 100 wins and not enough on bad losses. If you lose to a team outside of the top 200, you should be fucking stellar against the top teams to offset that, not just some wins against teams in the 75-100 range. Not to mention, syracuse somehow getting a pass for going 4-5 when their coach was suspending for violating NCAA rules
I've never understood bracketology guys saying that the mid-major at 24-7 with no relevant wins is getting screwed when the 21-10 (9-9) major team with a solid SOS gets in over them. I'm like, ok their record is shiny, but you do know Michigan would easily have the same record or better against the same schedule, right?
LEGGOOOOOO
I think the Big Ten will get seven teams in, so in my opinion it will come down to either UM or OSU. If I had to guess, it would be the team that goes further in this tourney. I highly doubt the Big Ten gets eight teams, so it would be absolutely crazy if the title came down to Michigan vs. Ohio State.
A lot of the committee's description of their own work is smoke-blowing, but one thing they say that I think is borne out in the results is that they do not think this way. There's no "this is a 7-bid league" going on--you get what you get on each team's merits. OSU in wouldn't bump Michigan out unless they were already last on the bubble.
That's true and a good point. However the only conference to receive more than seven bids is the Big East, which they did multiple times. Granted, that's when they had Syracuse, Louisville, Cincy, West Virginia, Notre Dame, UCONN, etc. But still, every conference outside of the Big East has never had over seven bids. Even if 22 win OSU and 22 win Michigan make the title game, I would be willing to bet the loser of that game is on the outside looking in.
But what do I know?
most brackets have us out stil... ugh. really need uconn to lose this one... and they just forced quadruple OT with a full court shot, because of course
And I'm pretty sure UConn's in regardless. Both these teams are in--it'd be better if one of them won that tournament, because they might the only teams that would still be in if they lost.
St. Mary's is 33 at kenpom--if anything, the 10 or 11 seed they're liable to get is too low.
Monmouth is the Lunardi pick I can't fathom. There's nothing there but Sportscenter hype and one good win four months ago.
UConn beat us. i doubt we get in over them. we need to get in over teams like tulsa, pitt, vandy, GW...
I don't think GW is even close. They have to win their tournament to get in.
Agree. UCONN also beat Texas, Ohio State. They've been bafflingly inconsistent in conference play.
Team | Result | Opponent |
Last Four Byes | ------ | -------- |
St Joseph's | W 86-80 | George Washington |
USC | Done | |
Oregon State | Done | |
St Bonaventure | 9PM | vs Davidson |
Last Four In | ------ | -------- |
Pittsburgh | Done | |
Monmouth | Done | |
Vanderbilt | Done | |
St Mary's | Done | |
First Four Out | ------ | -------- |
Syracuse | Done | |
Connecticut | W 104-97 | Cincinatti |
Tulsa | 9PM | vs Memphis |
Valpariso | Done | |
Next Four Out | ------ | -------- |
Florida | L 72-66 | Texas A&M |
Michigan | W 72-69 | Indiana |
Ohio State | 6:30PM | vs Michigan State |
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L 86-80 | St Joseph's |
Click on team to see RPI breakdown
Excellent graphic, thanks. I think you can maybe cross off Florida, Syracuse and Vandy at this point. Ohio very shortly. I predict two teams will leap over two of Oregon State/Vandy/Pitt, in real life if not in LundariLand
He just said on ESPN that Michigan is out because they lost to "11 tournament teams". Meanwhile he has Monmouth in who has lost to Army, Canisius, and Richmond. He also has USC, Wichita State, and St Mary's all in even though Michigan has more RPI top 25 wins than all those teams combined.
This is nuts. I can't believe Michigan actually might not make the tourney after today's win.
Here's how Michigan stacks up with some bubble teams on the RPI sheet.
Vandy is 19-13. Michigan is 21-11. Vandy is 2-6 against the Top 50. Michigan is 3-6. Vandy is 7-10 versus the Top 100. Michigan is 4-11. Vandy's NC SOS is 43. Michigan's is 207. Vandy has 3 losses outside the Top 100. Michigan has 0.
If the committee takes Vandy over Michigan, they're doing so because of that Top 100 # and the SOS.
A 22-11 Big 10 team with absolutely no bad losses and 4 wins against RPI Top 25 teams should not be left out of the tournament.
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