Jadyn Davis this season: 98/125(78%), 1674 yards, 21 TD, 0 INT
October 2nd, 2023 at 2:00 AM ^
Jadyn has been unbelievable but I still hope we land Bryce.
If JJ returns we'll have a shot to repeat then one of them can take over in 25.
October 2nd, 2023 at 6:58 AM ^
Wait. Is this even a possibility? JJ returning? I’ve been assuming from the jump this was our last season with the kid.
October 2nd, 2023 at 7:01 AM ^
Well Caleb Williams is the unanimous number 1 stud this year. Next year JJ would have a chance to be that dude. But yeah I have to think he's gone this year.
October 2nd, 2023 at 7:03 PM ^
Caleb (or at least his dad) has threatened to sit out if they don't like the team that's picking #1.
Chicago is holding both the #1 and #2 spots right now.
We are currently living in a version of the simulation where CJ Stroud/Nico Collins and JJ McCarthy/Marvin Harrison Jr. could be top tier tandems in years to come and it feels gross.
October 2nd, 2023 at 8:00 AM ^
Never know with QBs and NIL.
My advice is to wait until after the season to worry about McCarthy or Edwards.
Everyone else seems pretty cut and dry (compared to the number of "on the fence" players from past years).
Barnhart and Jones are the two I'm looking at closely. Both have a COVID year to use. Barnhart is a starter, so I assume he returns, but is Jones coming back to battle Hinton?
I've got El-Hadi, Crippen, and Gentry inside...because I don't think Hinton or Jones is a LT (pushing Barnhart to RG).
Cam Goode came back and doesn't start, it's not unheard of. But a 2024-25 version of...
Barnhart | El-Hadi | Crippen | Gentry | Hinton
w/ Jones as the 6th, is still an All-B1G caliber OL.
Persi | Herring | Anderson | (true freshman) | T. Jones
with Link or Bounds as the 6th would be the 2nd unit, IMO.
October 2nd, 2023 at 8:22 AM ^
I think we are kidding ourselves with first round draft picks vs NIL money. If JJ lands where he’s projected (top 10) he’s looking at around 25 million dollars.
October 2nd, 2023 at 8:33 AM ^
The 10th pick in the 2023 draft made $23 million over 4 years. So call it $6 million a year. The top pick makes a little over $10 million / year for four years. The 2025 draft appears lighter on QB's. A financial argument could be made for JJ to wait.
I don't expect it to happen and I certainly am not getting my hopes up but the chances of him returning are not 0%.
October 2nd, 2023 at 9:34 AM ^
Leaving a year earlier also means you're a year earlier to your second contract, which is where the big money is usually at.
October 3rd, 2023 at 9:21 PM ^
The 10th pick of the 2023 draft signed a $20.9m deal over 4 years. All $21m is guaranteed. $12.25m of that was a guaranteed signing bonus, that he'll receive this year (they'll spread that cap hit over 4 years).
It's hard to imagine any scenario - other than season ending injury or precipitous draft stock drop - in which JJ would come back to UM. Even though there's huge upside climbing from the 10-20 range to 1-5 range.
October 2nd, 2023 at 12:18 PM ^
Drafts are all over the place. PFF has McCarthy at 5.
CBS has him going 10th
SI has 4 QBs in the first round none named McCarthy. Shadeur Sanders and Penix Jr. are the other QB's.
According to Walter's Football JJ isn't going in the 1st two rounds let alone the top 10. He is behind Williams, Maye, Ewers, Penix jr, KJ Jefferson and Spencer Rattler.
Charlie Campbell in the same site has JJ in the late 2nd round behind Rattler, Penix and Daniels of LSU
So right now it looks like McCarthy is just coming on the radar of some sites. while I don't expect he'll crack the top 2 - Caleb Williams is talked about as generational and Drake Maye has been the consensus #2 forever, If he continues to play well JJ will be at the top of the next group.
October 2nd, 2023 at 1:14 PM ^
For the more educated, is Sanders actually a good QB with skills that translate to the next level? Or is this just a factor of him being in a friendly offense and running it well and Colorado hype/media attention? From my limited watching him, he seems like a good college QB, but not one I see translating to the next level. But what the hell do I know?
October 2nd, 2023 at 11:21 AM ^
Edwards will transfer, where he will be used to his skill set.
October 2nd, 2023 at 8:27 AM ^
There is a small chance he could return. If this continues to develop as a strong QB class for the draft, it could make financial sense for JJ to return.
I am not even daring to hope but it is not impossible.
October 2nd, 2023 at 8:49 AM ^
I'd say he's gone after this season as well but JJ may love playing at Michigan so much he stays? It may depend on how they finish this season. If they win the NC he could come back to for another shot or ride off in the sunset.
October 2nd, 2023 at 11:27 AM ^
Of course it's possible JJ returns. Nobody expected Blake to return (granted injury had something to do with that) but here is a chance he's back. I wouldn't expect it, but I wouldn't be surprised either.
October 2nd, 2023 at 11:56 AM ^
JJ will be the 4th QB at best in the upcoming draft. The others more prolific and proven than JJ who plays in a run oriented offense. NFL is going to heavily scrutinize the BG game and whatever happens from here on out.
I don’t think it is anywhere near certain that he leaves. This is a loaded draft class for QBs. He could be #1 in ‘25 if he waits with the challenging schedule to use as a springboard.
October 2nd, 2023 at 12:08 PM ^
Sounds like a fan talking. I am not sure if his odds are better to be #1 in 2025 because so many things can happen in 2024. So if he is anywhere in the first draft, he is gone.
October 2nd, 2023 at 12:51 PM ^
Well, no. His numbers are good, but not spectacular. Michigan has also played weak OOC and JJ had a meltdown on national TV vs TCU and then again vs BG. Yes,he has that road win vs OSU.
But few of his performances match what the other guys have done.
Not sure why you assume he is gone if he is projected to be a late first because that is nothing more than a projection. Bad things can happen this year too.
October 2nd, 2023 at 1:23 PM ^
I tend to agree with Sal. JJ looks good, but still isn't being asked to do what other guys do in their offenses, which really tend to show off their skills. He's not getting drafted before Williams, Maye, and maybe Penix? I think something will have to go really wrong for JJ to leap Penix.
October 2nd, 2023 at 3:04 AM ^
The guy that Bama is getting, Julian Sayin, I've watched his highlights on the local news here, Jadyn looks way better to me. That kid is poised and accurate with a strong enough arm. Davis is a 5 star recruit, I don't put much stock in 7 on 7 shorts BS.
If we don't end up getting Bryce, which I hope we do, we'll be just fine with Jadyn.
Btw, I thought Denegal looked pretty good on Saturday.
October 2nd, 2023 at 8:17 AM ^
I thought he looked serviceable. Still has a long delivery that will end up with a lot of INTs. But he's possibly QB #4, plenty of time to clean up the mechanics. He's already WAAAY ahead of where he was this time last year.
Tuttle is who I've been most impressed with this season (and Davis Warren last season).
I think Tuttle could get a medical to get one more year of eligibility. If that hasn't been determined, that could be a huge development.
If not, there's always the portal. I'm watching Hartman kill it for ND and thinking, that's always an option if JJ leaves.
An established QB who wants to play for a defending national champion that just produced a 1st round draft pick? 🤔 😏
Michael Pratt (Tulane), Jalon Daniels (Kansas) or if UM Admissions gets their head out of their ass...Arch Manning or Maalik Murphy at Texas (if Ewers comes back...or even if he doesn't, only one can start).
October 2nd, 2023 at 8:48 AM ^
We might even be able to land Noah Kim.
October 2nd, 2023 at 9:07 AM ^
Did you type that with a straight face? :)
October 2nd, 2023 at 11:07 AM ^
There can be only one.
October 2nd, 2023 at 11:19 AM ^
Jason Daniels would be acceptable compensation for Hunter Dickenson.
October 3rd, 2023 at 4:45 AM ^
*Jalon...spell check
October 2nd, 2023 at 11:50 AM ^
27B-6 is the clear #2 right now, but I can see Denegal making a move there. He has looked good in his garbage time chances. There's some arm talent there.
October 2nd, 2023 at 3:39 AM ^
78% is a C. Do not want.
October 2nd, 2023 at 9:38 AM ^
C'mung man, it's a C+!
October 2nd, 2023 at 6:39 AM ^
Actual football stats with elite production is great and all, but tell me how he does in shorts and a t-shirt with Trent Dilfer waiving a broom in his face?
October 2nd, 2023 at 11:28 AM ^
this made me snicker at my desk
October 2nd, 2023 at 8:43 AM ^
If for some reason Underwood chooses to go somewhere else, it looks like Davis might do just fine at Michigan. Not sure what will happen or who will be the QB next year but no matter what you have to credit Davis with the big recruiting push Michigan had in the spring. He brought some beef with him.
October 2nd, 2023 at 8:53 AM ^
Everyone talks as if Underwood lands here he is day one starter. One reason I don't think he will is no way this coaching staff gives him that guarantee and the way Davis takes care of the ball and completes a high percentage of passes his upside in this offense will be high IMO. I hope we get to see both of their bests but something tells me its unlikely.
October 2nd, 2023 at 9:07 AM ^
I wouldn't be shocked to see Underwood end up at Colorado. I don't mind that just because it wouldn't be OSU.
October 2nd, 2023 at 10:09 AM ^
WW - your perspective about Colorado and their recruiting is on the mark, IMO.
I enjoy watching Colorado play this season. I don't have a horse in the race, but - Coach Prime will attract talent - and, it will be interesting to see three things. First, how the talent Colorado signs will develop. Second, how the Buffs coaching staff game plans, makes in-game adjustments, etc. - which is completely on the staff - coaches, S&C, etc. And, third - how effectively the team executes the game plan they have in place.
None of the five games the Buffs have played this season really surprised me. CSU played the Buffs tougher than I thought they would - and, USC's defense in the second half on Saturday - honestly, I don't know if that was "good" Colorado execution by their offense - weak defense by USC - or a combination of the two. Regardless - it is interesting and entertaining.
It's impossible to predict how highly ranked Colorado's next recruiting class will be; however, I'd be surprised if it wasn't Top 20. As a point of reference - Colorado's '23 signing class was ranked 29th by 247 and only had 21 commits in it - and, it looks like the "average talent level" of Colorado's '23 class was about 32nd.
October 2nd, 2023 at 11:14 AM ^
I seem to recall Prime making a comment that seemed to imply that his son might come back for another year - That it wasn't a certainty he would be gone.
October 2nd, 2023 at 11:25 AM ^
Jim Harbaugh wants to coach until he dies. Does Deion Sanders have the same commitment to coaching? My impression is that he wanted to coach his son to prepare him for the NFL. I don't see him staying in Colorado for another 4-5 years.
October 2nd, 2023 at 12:07 PM ^
Colt, It will be interesting to see what happens with Deion. I have no inside information but - my gut says - moving to the Big 12 will be very good for Colorado. They'll be competitive in the Big 12 beginning - hmmm, next year.
The question is - which teams will go after Deion - to be their head coach - in the not so distant future - and, of those teams, which will Deion entertain an offer from. How long will Saban stay at Bama? Deion won't be the only "hot commodity" (IMO) to be the head coach of a program that has the pockets to bring him over - Dan Lanning (at Oregon) & Kalen DeBoer (at Washington) will get a lot of attention too.
October 2nd, 2023 at 5:28 PM ^
Yes, I saw that was well. And he for sure said something to the effect of, "Caleb's going first, so if Shedeur isn't going 1st, then why leave right now? Shilo too. We're already rich." Something like that. No /s .
October 2nd, 2023 at 11:27 AM ^
USC’s defense is vintage Reilly-awful.
October 2nd, 2023 at 12:26 PM ^
Colorado's NIL game can't possibly be good enough to compete with the elite kids yet though. And that will keep them from an elite class. Not sure what they would have to get to make a top 20 class, but it would likely involve kids turning down more money and a better situation for promises at Colorado.
October 2nd, 2023 at 10:15 AM ^
He's not going to OSU as they already have a commitment from some kid named St. Clair who is the #3 QB and 35th overall prospect on the 247 Composite.
Colorado, on the other hand, could be a problem with the Deion hype going on right now. I worry about them more than any other school for Underwood.
October 2nd, 2023 at 10:34 AM ^
Underwood doesn't look as polished, but I would say he has a higher ceiling than Davis. Seeing the improvement in JJ this season, I believe Kirk Campbell could make him a monster.
October 2nd, 2023 at 10:18 AM ^
Yeah but how did he perform in a t-shirt and shorts throwing at a traffic cone at the only events the recruiting rankers bother to attend?
October 2nd, 2023 at 10:22 AM ^
He’s not even a 5* and OSU QB commit is better.
- Maizen
October 2nd, 2023 at 10:29 AM ^
This may be on a bit of a tangent. I've held the belief that in today's day and age with recruiting - there's a need to draw interest from prospects "early" in their high school career - since the nature of contact, recruiting, NIL, etc. - all help influence talented young players' interest levels.
The good news, IMO, is that Michigan's success over the past few seasons has moved them into the "Hey, I should take a look at them" - by prospects that are in the 8th, 9th, and 10th grades. This puts Michigan on their radar far earlier than it was when Harbaugh arrived in Ann Arbor.
Michigan has already offered a QB in the '27 class - and, I'm confident they'll continue to draw interest and find players who reflect the program and university. The cultural fit is more important than "half a star" in the ranking - and, the player development seems to be exceptional.
Go Blue!
October 2nd, 2023 at 10:52 AM ^
I think Jaydyn will do very well. I have a gut feeling that HS completion % is very strongly correlated with college QB success.
October 2nd, 2023 at 2:33 PM ^
Where's the correlation?
53.6%, 58%, 58% and even 65%- these numbers aren't really off the charts and provide no meaningful relationship to your argument.
October 2nd, 2023 at 1:32 PM ^
I think this confirms what most everyone already knew. There is only so much you can learn about a guy when he's playing 7v7 with no pads on.
When you put the pads on, and the game gets real, when there's actual stakes, and there's guys on the other side of the field looking to rip you in half, that's when you find out what kind of player you have.
October 2nd, 2023 at 11:37 PM ^
21 TD, 0 INT. That's crazy.