Ivy League cancels conference tournaments due to Covid-19

Submitted by Hotel Putingrad on March 10th, 2020 at 12:06 PM

Ivy cancels conference tourneys, cites coronavirus http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28877858/ivy-league-cancels-conference-basketball-tournaments-coronavirus via @ESPN App http://espn.com/app

And in personal news, my biggest client cancelled our meeting scheduled for tomorrow right as I was boarding the plane. On the plus side, there was practically nobody at either airport, so turning right around should be no problem.

mGrowOld

March 10th, 2020 at 12:11 PM ^

FWIW I was planning on going to the B1G tournament this weekend and have decided to sit this out for similar reasons.  I gotta feeling we're going to see more and more of these type of cancellations in the days and weeks to come.

Also, have a family vacation scheduled for Breckenridge for the 21st to the 28th that is very much in the "wait and see" mode.  I'm not concerned (today) about traveling but a LOT can change in the next two weeks.

Look at the stats for Italy just two weeks ago.  Had same number of reported cases as we do here in the US as of today.

Nickel

March 10th, 2020 at 12:28 PM ^

While it might get to that point, the lines are definitely not short at Disney at the moment. I don't think many people have cancelled their existing planned vacations yet. Currently 130 minutes at 7 Dwarves Mine train.... 115 minutes for Splash Mountain.... 55 minutes for Haunted Mansion.

Disney is damn near religion for a lot of people, they won't cancel their visits there unless this thing becomes huge.

bluebyyou

March 10th, 2020 at 12:36 PM ^

Are you going to take sterile swabs with you and clean rides each time you go on them as well as keep children from touching their face?

Kids, fortunately, don't seem to be badly impacted but they can spread the disease to others who might not fare so well.

From what I hear, with a wife and two sons as docs, every medical meeting, large and small with very few exceptions has been cancelled in the short term.

ijohnb

March 10th, 2020 at 12:43 PM ^

How long do you think people can carry around sterile swabs and clean things they touch with alcohol?  Does that have long-term feasibility?  So from now (until presumably the end of time?) people are going to have to sterilize everything they touch, every where they go?  Did you do that for the 30,000-50,000 that die every year in the US from the flu? 

jwfsouthpaw

March 10th, 2020 at 1:21 PM ^

At this pace, it is only a matter of time before virtually any gathering for any non-essential purpose is effectively banned. Travel, concerts, school events, sports, you name it.

How long can that realistically last? Will the virus really go away in the next month? That seems hardly likely. Do we operate this way until/if a vaccine can be developed and become widely available? When will that realistically be?

There needs to be a balance between taking necessary precautions against the spread of a virus that is threatening for certain segments of the population and shutting down all activities in the United States. Because none of the precautions being taken will actually stop the spread of the virus, just maaaybe slow the spread.

wile_e8

March 10th, 2020 at 2:16 PM ^

Even if all this does is slow the spread of the virus, slowing the spread of the virus is really important. Here's a graph someone posted on Twitter that made it all make sense to me:

(I'm going to try an embed a Tweet right here, is this doesn't work just click the link)

https://twitter.com/CT_Bergstrom/status/1235865328074153986

 

Right now it seems like this virus is both more contagious and more deadly than the flu. But most of the population will still survive it just fine. The problem is that there is a significant vulnerable population, and the number of people in this group that doesn't survive this virus depends on making sure as many of these people can receive treatment when they need it. So slowing the spread of the virus is very important to keep hospitals from getting overwhelmed and being unable to treat people whose survival depends on getting treatment. 

 

And maybe the worst case estimates are off, and this thing won't spread enough to overwhelm hospitals, but if everyone goes about life as normal until the hospitals get overwhelmed it'll already be too late to do anything about it. Having people from several different parts of the country come together, spread germs for a few days, and then go back home seems like a bad idea until we know exactly how bad it will be. Once the worst has passed and we know hospitals will be able to handle all the vulnerable people, people will be able to go to basketball games again. 

 

matty blue

March 10th, 2020 at 1:43 PM ^

oh, i don't know, maybe instead of not doing it because you think it's not "feasible long-term," you could just do it for a while, since it appears to be deadlier than the common flu.  do you cover your mouth when you cough?  same thing.  

not sure of the downside of being, you know, careful.

matty blue

March 10th, 2020 at 2:42 PM ^

actually, i was here to find out the opinions of the mgoblog medical / contagious disease experts such as yourself.

i don't know how you find the time to both do that work AND make 67k posts to this board, but we thank you.

bluebyyou

March 10th, 2020 at 2:36 PM ^

One problem is that we don't have  a good handle on the ratio of deaths to number of cases.  The numerator is accurate but not the denominator.  Should COVID-19 have a 2 or 3 percent mortality rate, that's a big problem in the short term.  Long term, it will run its course and/or we will have a vaccine but yeah, life as we know it may change in the short term.

 

 

Nickel

March 10th, 2020 at 12:48 PM ^

I agree with you actually. I was just responding to Gameboy's comment that now would be a great time to go to Disney. It'll remain crowded unless the park shuts its gates or this thing stretches out 6+ months. I think a large crowded place with tons of kids like a theme park is likely to be a major transmission route.

 

mGrowOld

March 10th, 2020 at 1:07 PM ^

This is true.  My company exhibits at medical conferences thoughout the country and our next four have all been either postponed or cancelled.  

FWIW I'm really not worried about the current wave of infections/morbidity even though I technically fall into the high risk category: over 60 (actually I'm just 60), male, have a beard and have underlying respiratory issues from smoking for over 25 years (quit in 2008) and contracting whooping cough as a baby.  But I'm very concerned that if thing mutates and then comes back next year, like the Spanish Flu did in 2018, things could get very ugly.

mGrowOld

March 10th, 2020 at 2:17 PM ^

Sort of.  My device is used in peripheral nerve repair surgeries for the most part.  Most commonly by hand & plastic recon surgeons in complex procedures where nerves are at risk.  We also have a de-featured version of the mothership product used in head & neck surgeries that costs slightly less. 

Havent got much traction in ortho yet although I'm sure we will.  Lot's of indications for reverse shoulder and other revision surgeries IMO.

https://checkpointsurgical.com/

WindyCityBlue

March 10th, 2020 at 2:50 PM ^

Ha!  I know you guys fairly well.  At least indirectly.  I co-founded a smart/digital orthopedic instrument company that uses your same CM out of the Raleigh/Durham area.  Don't worry we don't compete with you in any way at all.

Also, I think I've had some conversations with a couple of your execs several years back trading stories on how to sell single-use electro-surgical devices when there are a lot of reusable alternatives.

ERdocLSA2004

March 10th, 2020 at 1:40 PM ^

Corona virus or not, I’d be ok with not having the BIG conference tourney.  We could use the extra rest to get healthy.  All we are going to do is continue to beat ourselves up right before the tourney that matters.  It seems like so many of the Big 10 teams go into the NCAA tourney exhausted every year.  I know it means more for the small conferences though.

Perkis-Size Me

March 10th, 2020 at 1:46 PM ^

Right there with you. My Dad and I have a guys weekend scheduled in mid-April to go to Denver to see the Rockies play the Cardinals. Not a fan of either team but we like seeing new ballparks at least once a year or every other year. As of now, we're still going, but who the heck knows how this is all going to look in the next month and a half. If things just keep getting worse we're probably scrapping the trip. 

Can't imagine how crappy or pissed people must feel who booked summer vacations to Italy or plan to study abroad there (or are right now). All your plans are essentially going out the window right now. 

Don

March 10th, 2020 at 5:20 PM ^

My best friend and his wife have been planning for almost a year on her 50th birthday celebration in May in Florence, Italy. They'd reserved a villa and had invited a bunch of friends to join them. Needless to say that plan looks like it's going in the dumper. To say they're disappointed doesn't begin to capture it.

Hugh White

March 10th, 2020 at 1:57 PM ^

Even worse:  historically, the Ivy League sent the regular season winner to the NCAA tournament. 2018 Harvard wins the regular season but loses in the Ivy Tournament Finale to Penn who is playing on its home court.  2019 Harvard wins the regular season but loses in the Ivy Tournament finale to Yale who is playing on ITS home court.  2020 Harvard is set to host the Ivy League Tournament on its home court where its winning percentage is in the 90s, until Covid-Cancel happens. 

lostwages

March 10th, 2020 at 12:14 PM ^

I heard on CNN the other day that some people are turning into zombies after getting Covid-19... which was all started by aliens!

 

**They shoulda just called it Influenza-D or something innocuous like that; this shit wouldn't even be in the news.**

 

ijohnb

March 10th, 2020 at 12:19 PM ^

Heard that today from somebody, that the heard this was going to be a "walking dead" situation.

That distortion and erosion between truth and fiction in this country was always going to come home to roost and I think this is the moment.

lostwages

March 10th, 2020 at 1:31 PM ^

Firstly... your numbers are WAY off brother... secondly:

How many people died from Influenza this past season? I believe that number was around 28,000

Secondly...Hopkins just reported that .6% have died from those being tested out of 116,000 in Korea (POINT-SIX YO)

This virus is more telling of how people need to learn to wash their fuckin' hands than anything else. Had some moron like you ask me the other day why I wash my hands before I touch my pecker to take a leak. Well my pecker goes in my girlfriend see... and I like my shit clean!

**God you people are idiots. Are you sure this isn't the OSU forum? Learn to wash your hands, don't pick your nose, don't touch your face constantly, don't put your index finger in your butthole, stop licking the gym equipment like it's a tootsie roll pop, and your risk goes WAY DOWN!

I swear you're probably one of those asshats that went out and bought Purell hand sanitizer and sanitation wipes in bulk didn't you... roflmao