How many wins for Michigan this year
How many wins do you think michigan will get this season? I think our defense will be really solid. Everyone thinks our offense will struggle but i think we will be ok as long as we run the ball consistently. If we pass there could be some serious issues. Michigan is going to look a lot faster than they normally do. It's also good that teams think we suck. Michigan does well when they are under dogs! I think you will finally see a team that will be ready to play in big ball games.
I predict 8 maybe 9 wins! I think the ND game is a toss up. I think we should win but its charlies job on the line.
August 13th, 2008 at 7:29 AM ^
August 13th, 2008 at 8:15 AM ^
August 13th, 2008 at 8:44 AM ^
a final record of 9 - 4 would be dissapointing to me.
This is Michigan and RR has more talent than he ever had. D will get the year started and the offense will really come alive towards the end of the season.
9 wins or Bust!!
December 13th, 2008 at 8:20 AM ^
December 13th, 2008 at 10:46 AM ^
August 13th, 2008 at 8:46 AM ^
"It's also good that teams think we suck. Michigan does well when they are under dogs!"
Proof? Any type of proof? You really believe this?
Is this the whole "we do awesome when we start low in the polls!" meme? Because, really, do you honestly think what happened in 1997 matters to what happens in 2008?
August 13th, 2008 at 10:23 AM ^
I kind of think I know what MMfromDet is saying. Under the Bo/Mo/Carr regimes the team often performed well when lowly ranked in pre-season ('80, '85, '88, '97, '06) and visa-versa ('84, '87, '93, '05, '07).
But none of this is likely applicable, as my sources deep inside the athletic department have informed me that Carr no longer has much input in the team and it is a new guy with no past association with the program calling the shots...
well, the helmets are still the same.
August 13th, 2008 at 8:59 AM ^
optimistically, 9.
realistically, 8
8 is definitaley a decent expectation. If you look at the schedule you should see several "Auto-Wins" but I think 8 is realistic.
Agreed?
August 13th, 2008 at 9:04 AM ^
There are no "auto-wins" after The Horror.
I think RR will always be prepared for an opponent, unlike Carr, but there are too many question marks on offense this year.
December 13th, 2008 at 5:19 AM ^
August 13th, 2008 at 8:58 AM ^
August 13th, 2008 at 9:01 AM ^
December 13th, 2008 at 8:59 AM ^
August 13th, 2008 at 9:51 AM ^
ceiling: 8-4
realistically: 7-5
floor: 6-6
Will 6-6 even get us into a bowl game? I thought I read somewhere that in the Big Ten, 7-5 teams must be picked ahead of 6-6 teams, even if 6-6 team would be a higher attendance draw for a bowl.
August 13th, 2008 at 10:44 AM ^
I thought I read somewhere that in the Big Ten, 7-5 teams must be picked ahead of 6-6 teams
This is correct. And I agree with your possibilities. If someone offered me 8-4 right now I'd take it without thinking about it for very long.
August 13th, 2008 at 1:01 PM ^
So you think our ceiling is only one game ahead of our realistic end record? That means you expect us to lose 5 games, only one of which has even the possibility of going the other way? I don't really disagree with your realistic guess, but how can you set such a low ceiling before seeing us play? I'd say the ceiling is 10-2 at the lowest, who knows what these guys might be able to pull off? I'm not predicting it, just acknowledging the possibility.
August 13th, 2008 at 10:41 AM ^
7-8 wins (not counting the bowl) is probably what we're looking at. Less would be excruciatingly painful, but understandable. More would be questionable.
9 wins is improbable, 10 wins is unicornland, and both of those predictions require a game-by-game explanation of where those 9 or 10 wins are going to come from.
August 13th, 2008 at 10:49 AM ^
"anything less than 9-4 would be dissapointing to me."
Really?!? expecting the same record we had in 2007 is where you are setting the bar?...with no offensive line, no QB, a brand new system on offense, and mostly new coaches on both sides of the ball?
Ridiculous expectations run rampant again!
August 13th, 2008 at 12:31 PM ^
An unpredictable offense and a much better conditioning program will more than compensate for growing pains. Michigan will finally stop underachieving this year. I think they can't do any worse than last year. I am looking at 9 or 10 wins total.
UM will surprise a lot of people this year.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:47 PM ^
9 or 10 wins wouldn't surprise me, but i'm thinking more like 7 or 8. i think we're in trouble if threet can barely beat out sheridan
August 13th, 2008 at 12:58 PM ^
Identify them, please. Please go look at Michigan's schedule, and please explain how Michigan gets to 9 or 10. Please make it clear to anyone and everyone what exactly your expectations are regarding, for example:
- an early road trip to Notre Dame
- late road trips to Penn State, Minnesota, Purdue, and Ohio State
- back to back games against Illinois and Wisconsin
- opener against Utah, no slouch
I look at those challenges, and I think 4, maybe 5 losses. I'm baffled as to how anyone looks at the same exact schedule and thinks Michigan survives with only 2-3 losses out of it. I suspect people aren't really understanding the challenges that the schedule presents, which is why I humbly request elaboration on this whole "9 or 10 wins anything less is a disappointment" insanity.
I'm not saying it's impossible, what I'm saying is it's irrational to predict/expect that. So pretty please, with sugar on top, walk through the schedule and tally up the wins and losses.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:52 PM ^
I predict -7 wins.
That should balance out the loons.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:57 PM ^
16 wins to bring it back on the side of the loons.
But seriously? I think 8 is realistic-ish.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:57 PM ^
August 13th, 2008 at 1:06 PM ^
Games I'm confident we'll win: Miami, Toledo, Minnesota, Northwestern
Games I think we'll lose: OSU, Wisconsin.
Game I think can go either way: Penn State, MSU, Illinois, Purdue, Utah, Notre Dame.
So, before the toss-ups, I see 4-2. I think that among the toss ups, it's fair to split them 50/50 - which gets us to 7-5. You could argue that Purdue sucks, I guess, which could move us to potentially 8-4.
August 13th, 2008 at 1:23 PM ^
August 13th, 2008 at 3:22 PM ^
The Notre Dame game will be extremely early, and will be on the road. Those two factors will make it very, very tough for M to score lots of points, regardless of how good/bad Notre Dame is. Thus, it's a toss-up.
Personally, I think Michigan pulls the Notre Dame game out, but I wouldn't at all be surprised if Notre Dame wins.
December 13th, 2008 at 9:03 AM ^
December 13th, 2008 at 9:19 AM ^
August 13th, 2008 at 1:34 PM ^
Because they have assloads of talent. More, probably, than us. The problem they had was that the vast majority of it last year were sophomores/freshmen/RS freshmen who hadn't played. Their starting lineup has 1 five star, 2 three stars, and all the rest are four. The vast majority got their first experience starting last year.
August 13th, 2008 at 1:36 PM ^
but isn't it going to be essentially the same team on the feild this year? do you think another year will make them much better?
August 13th, 2008 at 2:13 PM ^
Anything less than 13 wins would be a complete dissapointment. NC or bust assholes. FIRE DICK ROD!!!!
If we get 10 wins then Goody can have a self imposed pat on the back. Although anything less and he gets his posting priveliges revoked until next season.
August 13th, 2008 at 8:19 PM ^
i'll use chitowns format:
Games I'm confident we'll win: Miami, Toledo, Minnesota, Northwestern, Purdue
Games I think we'll lose: OSU PSU
Game I think can go either way: MSU, Illinois, Utah, Notre Dame, Wisc
so, 5-2 before the 5 tossups. tossup options:
- 2-3.....7-5
- 3-2.....8-4
these are the most probable. IMO, 6-6 and 9-3 are both about 2 SDs away from the mean. the clear O/U is 7.5 wins.
August 13th, 2008 at 10:03 PM ^
Without having actually seen what the hell this team - specifically the offense - looks like, I have no idea what to expect in the way of wins and losses. It's extremely up in the air. How we do against Utah (especially offensively) will be indicative of the rest of the year, and that's pretty much the only guarantee I'll make about this season so far.
Miami, Toledo, Minnesota, Northwestern, Purdue look like easy wins. But if our offense really blows, and we play down to our competition, we lose one, maybe even two of those games. MSU, Illinois, Utah, Notre Dame, Wisconsin, and PSU are all tossups to me (though I would say right now that Wisc. and PSU are much more likely to be losses than the others). I think Illinois and MSU are frauds (very overhyped), but I wouldn't be surprised if we dropped one of those games. Notre Dame will be better, and it's at South Bend. Wisonsin has no QB, but their run game is good (200+ yards against us last year). We're at Happy Valley, so if PSU can't beat us this year they should just give up and never schedule us again. As much as it pains me to say it, it looks Tressel will be 7-1 (pathetic) when this season's over.
Overall, I'll lay it out like this. If we go 7-5 with wins against ND (kick them while they're down), PSU (continue JoePa's shame. Ultimately, I'd like to get a full season's worth of consecutive wins over them, like 12. That would be special), and MSU (keep little brother down), it will be a nice first year, and one to that we can build the program on. If we beat OSU and spoil their national title hopes, I will go batshit crazy and it will be the greatest day evah.
December 13th, 2008 at 8:53 AM ^