March 12th, 2020 at 12:47 AM ^
phew that was scary. Hope he gets well!
March 12th, 2020 at 12:47 AM ^
Word is they are out of quarantine. (Not quasi unable to edit)
OMFG
"Ended up ONLY being influenza A"
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March 12th, 2020 at 12:52 AM ^
B1G tournament saved?
I can’t even imagine what the players are going through right now, especially the seniors.
March 12th, 2020 at 12:54 AM ^
THAT is good news. They got that test done pretty quickly.
I was not aware that any covid-19 results were ready quicker than 8 hours.
I hope they just didn't assume he's negative just because he's positive for Influenza A. There's not a ton of overlap, but there is some.
He got the special test, available only to the illuminati -- you know, basketball players, celebrities, and honorable members of the Duma.
Kidding aside: assuming he's using a PCR test, I agree; my understanding is that this is unreasonably fast for the result to come back. And, thus, I suspect they may have done exactly what you suggest: run a rapid influenza diagnostic test and assumed he didn't have both.
I know where I live, Westchester, due to the shortage of tests, some doctors are trying this and hedging bets to try and get in front of things
March 12th, 2020 at 10:02 AM ^
That's correct. They did the flu test (15 min results) and he tested positive for Flu A. The question is...can he have both? Covid test takes 48 hours for results. I haven't seen it discussed anywhere if you can get the Flu AND Corona.
March 12th, 2020 at 11:43 AM ^
Yes, a guy here in NE Indiana tested positive for Influenza A on March 1st. On March 5, he wasn't feeling better, went to a different hospital, was tested for Corona, and then on March 9 that test was a "presumptive positive" later confirmed positive. SO he has both.
Ugh.
Yeah - I'm not necessarily suspicious but I am surprised.
I think South Korea has some 30-minute tests, but everything I've been hearing seemed to say American tests were on the order of 8-24 hours. I know we were working hard on quicker tests, but I didn't think we were there quite yet.
I can’t imagine anyone signing off on a negative with the risk of not really knowing especially in such a public setting but shit who knows.
it takes eight hours? Why is that?
I think if he has no contact with a known COVID patient, hasn't traveled to an area where there are cases, there is no known community transmission in his area, and he tests positive for influenza A, then it seems like a safe conclusion.
These are my thoughts (not asked for by any means) and why he tried to tough through the game tonight.
March 12th, 2020 at 10:41 AM ^
Which I think would be a reasonable conclusion if the US had been doing a good job of testing--and that has not been the case so far.
March 12th, 2020 at 12:56 AM ^
Good to hear. He probably used some of the forsythia ijohnb was selling.
You can slang forsythia???? Shiet I got some in the backyard about bag it up and hit the skreets
No, sounds like he just got the ultra-duper-quick Covid 19 test kits suddenly available and in good stock in the locker room of the BIG tournament.
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I'm glad he's not with anything too serious, but this is just proof that the tournaments need to be canceled. He said he felt sick before the game and still coached and his team is in LAST PLACE. Do you think a player or coach on a top 4 seed is going to speak up about sitting out if they don't feel well? No. They have too much at stake and it's the Big Ten and NCAA's job to do what's BEST for the students. They have to pull the plug because the players and coaches are not going to if given the choice
Test every single player before the tournament. Don’t allow anyone to play who tests positive.
Yes, unfortunately the tests are not 100% reliable. An article in the atlantic said that the accuracy of a single test in China was around 30-60%, or 71% for multiple tests. Hopefully the ones we have are more accurate, but I'd be wary of declaring someone Covid-19 free based off of a single test.
Link to the article if interested, https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/03/where-do-you-go-if-you-get-coronavirus/607759/
Good for The Mayor.
Someone should be fired for this.
We are in a massive crisis, literally disrupting the lives of hundreds of millions of Americans (leaving aside Italy, Iran, etc) and for weeks now leading officials have been instructing people if you feel sick, stay home. Instructions have been particularly clear for university employees and students,
Yet this bozo goes out there, knowing that he's not feeling well (which is what he told the broadcast team before the game) to "gut it out" and ends up almost passing out on national TV.
Coaches aren't just there to win (which he's not doing anyway) but to set an example and follow university policies to keep the kids he is coaching safe. That didn’t happen; what a failure.
Some leading officials have been saying it is no big deal.
True, but Hoiberg and Nebraska need to be smart enough to listen to basically all leading officials except for certain ones!
I 100% agree that Hoiberg should have acted much more responsibility just disagreeing with the assertion that there has been a consistent message from people in leadership positions.
Maybe not a couple weeks ago, but things have changed, rapidly. Hoiberg works for Nebraska, a Big Ten University. Most of those schools had already announced they were closing down because of worries about illness before he dragged his flu-ridden body out there late last night.
If that's not a clear enough message to you, as a leading rep of a university or a doctor working for a university, that it's not business as usual, that is a serious problem.
Unfortunately, we have received very little reasonable response to the crisis from anyone.
The default positions appear to be (no surprise): Who cares, this is just the flu OR OMG WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE, ANYONE CAN GET THIS AT ANY MOMENT AND IT WILL KILL US ALL.
That’s the real issue. There hasn’t been enough straight talk that has managed to get above the chatter of people who don’t know WTF they’re talking about at either end of the spectrum. However, Dr. Anthony Fauci of the National Inst. for Allergy & Infectious Disease, as well as Michael Osterholm of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy are two of the best ones.
I think that your description of the default description does disservice to how hard it is to define the right level of response.
I think there are plenty of people struggling to figure that out both personally and professionally. Up until the last week or so as things started to unfold in Italy I was in the take prudent cautions (e.g. wash hands frequently, low hanging fruit of social distancing), but as you start to realize that this really does have the capacity to overwhelm the healthcare capacity of an industrialized nation and that there don’t seem to be small incremental steps that society can take, it becomes harder to define where that line between prudent and over the top is.
That's not true. People have been advising for WEEKS if you are sick, stay home. And before Nebraska's game, Hoiberg and company knew this virus situation was so serious that fans are not allowed for NCAA games for the rest of the year...because they are worried about a COVID-19. It wasn't business as usual.
Yet Nebraska thought it was a good, reasonable idea to send a guy out there who was feeling "really bad" with flu-like symptoms?
Again, this is a massive screwup. Nebraska and Hoiberg should have known better.
March 12th, 2020 at 10:27 AM ^
not sure who you are responding to? But if me:
1. As I said earlier in this thread, I agree that Holdberg is an idiot who should have known better.
2. While many leaders at many levels have sent strong messages on this, there are clear and obvious exceptions.
3. Most of the point of my comment was not about the Holdberg question, but the larger question of how hard it is to figure out the right level of response once you get beyond the obvious, wash your hands, don’t go to work etc.
March 12th, 2020 at 12:06 PM ^
I am responding to Scooter, not you.
Threading is difficult to follow on this site if more than a couple people reply to a post.
March 12th, 2020 at 12:19 PM ^
Thanks. Appreciate your response.
#cancelculture
Amirite?!
March 12th, 2020 at 11:48 AM ^
Martyrs. We have them here at work too. I hate these fuckers here hacking and sneezing, making everyone's life miserable and no one telling them to go home (from management). I am livid. Even if not Covid it is fucking rude as hell. Irresponsible.
Hoiberg is still a fucking dumbass
If there is one good thing that might come out of this pandemic, it’s that people with the flu might actually start staying home from work and taking care of themselves and not spreading it.
That and a realization that paid sick leave should be required
Probably a liability issue holding the tournament- if someone gets infected and a player dies from the virus. I wonder how they could reason putting more people at risk of spreading the virus when 12 Are infected they all go back home infect family then family goes around spreading it and that’s how you get a pandemic. Not to mention the elderly family members.
Hoiberg was dumb - coaching with the flu which can just as easily spread and cause pneumonia.
March 12th, 2020 at 10:29 AM ^
That’s the thing that’s so stupid about what he did. So let’s say COVID19 doesn’t exist and we know it’s “just” the flu. If Nebraska is looking to win the B1G tourney, they have to win 5 games in 5 days. So what’s the endgame for Hoiberg? ‘Tough it out’ on wednesday then watch his players get sick as the week goes on? Or hope they don’t get sick until after Sunday, at which point they go into the NCAA depleted? Just doesn’t make sense, even without this pandemic event.