Hobey Baker winner banned 6 months for doping
Minnesota State goalie said it was a small amount ("one trillionth"), and didn't help his performance.
What a dope!
To be fair, he didn't SAY it was a trillionth. It was
April 18th, 2022 at 10:05 PM ^
.000000000001
What an absurd suspension!
April 18th, 2022 at 10:02 PM ^
I'm much more bothered by the fact that his parents named him Dryden.
April 18th, 2022 at 10:13 PM ^
This kid was clearly raised to be a goalie.
April 18th, 2022 at 10:27 PM ^
Probably should have been Dresden...so it goes.
Drysdale
Dryden Vos
April 18th, 2022 at 10:29 PM ^
He said ostarine was found in an allegedly "all-natural" Vitamin D3 immune booster he had been taking for 10 days during the COVID-19 omicron variant surge.
Should've listened to Harbaugh. Steak and whole milk are the only vitamins you need.
April 18th, 2022 at 10:52 PM ^
some left over deer antler mating spray?
April 18th, 2022 at 11:11 PM ^
The picogram amount does not absolve him of guilt. It is virtually impossible to correlate a urine level of any drug with an ingested dose because of many, many unknown variables often involved. If a drug is eliminated in the urine (as most are), eventually the level of anything will drop to zero (as long as you are not taking more). If you measured it earlier, then the level would be higher. Most hospital drug screens will not detect drugs in picogram amounts. I have no idea about WADA screening, etc.
April 19th, 2022 at 12:03 AM ^
I imagine the one trillionth was there because he didn't follow the instructions on how to get it out of his system quite carefully enough. Whoops.
April 19th, 2022 at 12:17 AM ^
Well this seems dumb!
"During USADA's investigation into the circumstances of the case, USADA received results from a WADA-accredited laboratory that a supplement product McKay was using prior to sample collection, which did not list Ostarine on the Supplement Facts label, was contaminated with that substance at an amount consistent with the circumstances of ingestion and his positive test. The Code provides the opportunity for a substantial reduction in the otherwise applicable period of ineligibility in this circumstance," said USADA in its ruling.
Honestly, why is McKay suspended at all? If the USADA agrees it was from contamination and knows the source, then what are we doing here
Although this is odd
McKay told ESPN that he was notified on Feb. 1 that a urine sample collected on Jan. 23 returned a positive test for ostarine
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Because McKay was able to establish the source of the contamination, an arbitrator lifted his suspension on Feb. 3 until a final decision by USADA would be made.
So McKay got all of his supplements tested by a lab and was able to report it to the USADA in less than 48 hours? That cannot be right
The only thing I can think of is that they knew which specific substance they were testing for. If they had to do a whole panel of tests for various substances it might have been longer, but maybe the ostarine test is really quick?
Re: suspension for unintentional ingestion, I suspect the idea is that even unintentionally taken PEDs do still have a performance-enhancing effect, so you need to make sure an artificially enhanced individual isn't competing while boosted. It would also not be surprising if there was no carveout for amounts so small as to be ineffective, just because bureaucracy.
The other option is that it might make sense for someone to intentionally take PEDs, then lace a vitamin supplement with them, and then claim they took them unintentionally. A 6-month suspension in this unprovable case might just be to deter those kinds of shenanigans, just in case.
April 19th, 2022 at 10:47 AM ^
Yeah, the timeline still seems oddly compressed. So McKay was notified he had ostarine in his urine on Feb 1 in Mankato, MN. The only WADA accredited labs in the US are in SLC and LA. I suppose it's possible Mankato's AD overnighted the samples to one of the labs as an emergency order to test specifically for ostarine and the lab was able to run it next day, so maybe the timing isn't so absurd when a negative outcome potentially put Mankato's whole season in jeopardy. They were probably panicking over there.
Still weird that they got the results and handed down a 6 month suspension anyway
This makes a lot of sense. They discover the infraction in February and decide it warrants a suspension, then they lift the suspension for the remainder of the season, give him the Hobey and then suspend him for the off-season.
Be sure... To drink... Your... Ostarine?
A stinking commercial?
April 19th, 2022 at 10:04 AM ^
I thought it as a crummy commercial?
I get the argument that it was contaminated and so he had a right to appeal the decision but this part makes little sense to me:
"Typically the range (for a non-intentional ingestion) is somewhere between four-to-eight months or four-to-10 months, depending on the situation," Greene told Sportsnet. "They offered him six months, which is in-line with a lot of cases I've been involved with. He had a decision if he wanted to accept the six months or go forward to a hearing. We just decided it made the most sense to accept the six-month ban. Let the process start now that his season was over."
If the supplement was really contaminated then I don't see any culpability for him, yet the NCAA clearly has a rule that basically says "yeah...sure you didn't know that banned substance was in there...take your 4-6 month punishment and we won't dig into it" that both sides figured made the most sense. And the 2-3 day turnaround from a lab to show the contamination of a supplement feels real quick.
I totally recognize that, as with court proceedings, it is often pushed for defendants to take the given punishment and not risk further from a trial. But I don't really see the punishment deterring anyone here; he got to play all season, won a bunch of awards, then has to "sit out" the offseason.
April 19th, 2022 at 10:42 AM ^
that's just some crappy luck for him. had a fantastic year
Ostarine is an anabolic agent. That he SAYS it "didn't help him" is irrelevant. It absolutely could have helped him.
Obviously if he only ingested a tiny amount it didn't help him. But we don't know how much he took--just how much they found in the test. Usually people cycle off of these things to avoid testing positive.
Could have been a tainted supplement--but then it should be super easy to verify. I've grown really jaded with this stuff-100% of the people that ping drug tests now lie and say "it was a tainted supplement".
Testosterone definitely helps your reflexes, which would be a huge deal for a goalie. Ostarine supposedly has some effect on testosterone levels.
Ostarine is a SARM, attaches to androgen receptors in the body and helps muscle growth. I’ve usually seen it in cutting cycles to maintain muscle/strength while losing weight, but could be used while bulking too.