Should have mentioned that since Delaware has the same helmets as us, you can pretend WE'RE the ones playing for a championship tonight.
Go Blue! Hens!
Friday Night Football Open Thread
Then at 8 EST is the Cotton Bowl between LSU And Texas A&M.
Post thoughts here as you try to forget that we don't have a coach 3 weeks from signing day. Oops, shouldn't have reminded everyone...
Should have mentioned that since Delaware has the same helmets as us, you can pretend WE'RE the ones playing for a championship tonight.
Blades of grass Les Miles eats. I'm going with 2.5.
Edit: Meant to reply to the thread not this post, but oh well.
I'm gonna go with under, as i believe they are playing on turf.
Wonder how he's gonna handle not having any grass to eat, probably not well
Michigan's TRUE little brother!! Go Delaware!
Was it only me, or was anyone else physically unable to eat their dinner during the 49ers presser (for fear of revisiting dinner, of course)?
It's too bad we didn't get Harbaugh, but if we weren't going to get him we need him to take a job so we cna hire a coach. I don't think DB could hire anyone until Harbaugh had a job. I'm nervous, but DB will get the right coach in the end whoever it is.
I just hope Martin and Denard like whoever it is.
I was looking for this thread. Go HENS!
According to the announcers, Delaware only gives up 11 points a game.
They play in one of the better FCS divisions as well. Eastern Washington's QB is no joke though, so this will be a major test.
And their helmet's got wings!
I havn't seen the winged helmet and Defense on the same field in a looooong time.
Would be great to watch Jimmy sitting around for a year with no one to coach while all the focus in on college football.
Should be the Open Drinkingtilipassoutoraway Thread.
We support all forms of coping in the FNFOT.
I only made this thread because I saw someone ask for it in the Dungy thread, I'm watching the Bulls game myself.
is that we needed to wait for K.C. Keeler to finish his National Championship run before he could be introduced as our coach.
Tonight has two potential candidates coaching. I think it is an outside shot at Keeler, but I think hes a good candidate and has shown he can coach. I would not be disapppointed at all if he was introduced as the next coach.
K.C. Keeler is a great coach at any level.
In 2007 he gave App State a better game than we did.
We need to get them in the Big House (on a bye-week as a featured game, not as an opponent so we don't have to root against the winged helmet).
If we can get 61,000 for Slippery Rock and 104,000 for hockey, we could get a pretty good turnout to watch our other little brother play.
K.C. Keeler is a good shout for coach. Maybe not head coach, but defensive coordinator/eventual head coach. 11 pts/game is phenomenal at any level.
I take exception to one statement:
"He coaches at a school with great academics in a great college town."
While it is a good school, as someone who currently lives in Newark, DE I can tell you that it is no Ann Arbor.
Haha, I thought it was a great college town only because there was a battle during the American Revolution in Newark called the Battle of Cooch's Bridge. Giggled for 20 minutes when I read that, so yeah...I'm sure Ann Arbor is NO comparison.
I used to live in Middletown, DE
Wish Keeler had any FBS experience. His background as a coach: Amherst, Rowan, and Delaware.
Tressel's only HC experience prior to OSU was Youngstown State. Yes, he did have pos. coach exp. But still, just sayin...
Tressel coached at tOSU.
Buyouts in FCS are rare. Some guys do have them, and he's likely to be one of them. For example, David Bennett at CCU has a buyout equal to 100% of his remaining salary if he leaves for another 1AA school (note it doesn't appear to apply to a move to 1A.) I'm sure Keeler's is somewhere along those lines.
That said, Keeler's among the top paid guys in the league. In 09 he made a whopping - wait for it - $310,662.
So, I don't think $$$ would even remotely be an issue with this guy.
Do you mean that he doesn't care about money, or that we could offer him enough to get him in? I'm skeptical that he would leave Delaware, kind of a Pat Fitz type thing. But I feel like Delaware to Michigan is another level than NW to Michigan. Its hard to say.
I meant that in terms of issues with regard to getting him in, $ would/should not be one of them. We could quadruple or quintuple his salary and it'd still be less than we were paying. So, yeah we could certainly make it financially attractive enough I would think.
I agree the ties to DE are strong though and might be insurmountable. But he is on record as being one of 3 we would have interviewed last time had RR not come and that he was "flattered."
I dunno if this guy is the one or not. But I do think he deserves a long look from DB.
you've convinced me. this guy seems great. can you post this as a new thread to give it more attention? it most definitely deserves it.
How can we not pursue Charlie Strong? Maybe he has an attachment to Louisville, but getting your salary doubled is getting your salary doubled. Surely one of these talented young coaches must see that and think "I'll listen."
He was a great DC at Florida and turned L-ville around to a respectable program. I love his intensity and the way he coaches, and it would be hard to say he couldn't recruit. An African-American coach from the south would be able to recruit extremely well. While Bobby Williams was not a good coach, he recruited very well for MSU in his time there. Many African-American athletes are attracted to African-American coaches, and I completely understand why. I'm not saying we should just hire him because he is African-American, I think he could be a very good coach as well, and would put him at the top of my potential list.
For the record, my list at the start of the coaching search was:
1. Gruden (not going to happen, so let's move on)
2. JH (obviously not happening)
3. Charlie Strong
I do think Delaware's coach is a very good choice as well, though I think the fanbase will have trouble with it. But screw the fanbase, if Michigan wins that's all that matters.
I think Gary Pinkel would do well here.
He's 58. A lot of coaches retire in their early 60s, and even if Pinkel did well here he could easily be hanging it up just when the program got to the point where all the recruits were his.
Interesting quotes from K.C. Keeler in a recent profile/interview (right before RR was let go.)
"That whole Michigan thing was for real," Keeler said.
"If [current coach Rich] Rodriguez hadn't taken the job, I was one of three they were going to bring in for an interview. That was Michigan. That was pretty flattering."
Here's the whole piece: http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20110103/SPORTS07/101030328/Keeler-not-looking-to-leave-UD
FWIW it also paints him as pretty content where he's at, but doesn't rule out a move to somewhere else.
...but extra point blocked. 6-0 Delaware.
PAT blocked by Eastern Washington.
And we play ytMSU in Hockey at Munn tonight. I'm going to turn the sound off on the Delaware game and listen to ice hockey audio.
Looks like Michigan vs. SDSU. Whoever wins the game, it will be a sign.....very telling. I bet DB is thinking the same thing as he puffs his diamond encrusted cigar and cognac out of his pimp chalice.
I dont think Jimmy wanted a life-long discussion about being compared to Bo...
I also never logged in to say:
Hello...my name is Cheesmo...I am a M Go Blog addict...I got NOTHING done at work this week, and the constant watching and listening for anybody coming to my desk so I could throw up an Excel file took its toll...I got a sampler pack of Bells in Lancaster, PA I hope to dig into soon
When a simple Word doc just won't do. I have one ready to go at all times.
Well, that depends. How do you feel about shady recruiting and eating grass?
Michigan is terrible and the grass at Michigan Stadium is artificial turf.
The question is rhetorical.
As long as he wins, I'm good.
Okey-dokey. Prepare for clock DOOM.
And then we'll be front runners for Jadeveon Clowney and RR will be hired at Stanford and Andrew Luck will be hired as Michgan's new offensive coordinator.
Leslie Edwin "Les" Miles (born November 10, 1953 in Elyria, Ohio) is an American college football coach and the current head coach of the University of Michigan football team.
Who knew? They need their own network now "WikiChannel", and then this could run in the crawl....
TUSCALOOSA, Alabama (AP) - Alabama junior running back Mark Ingram, junior receiver Julio Jones and junior defensive lineman Marcell Dareus announced Friday that they would enter the 2011 NFL Draft,
Les Miles can do, its recruit. This would be huge in my opinion.
is a player to watch. He's likely to be drafted in 2nd/3rd round. Not near the prospect that Joe Flacco is coming out of college, but still a good prospect.
But how do his eyebrows compare? Does he outnumber Flacco in that regard?
That was a really fast 1st quarter. From my angle Delaware dominated it, but is only up 6-0.
I'd take Keeler
be opposed to hearing KC Keeler named as new HC ....who heard of Bo or Tressel before they were hired? And it seems he's able to coach 'em up!!
Go Blue Hens!!
Delaware up 9-0 after a long drive that settled for a 29 yrd FG. Got a break in there with a pick called back for offsides.
Their offense is intriguing b/c it looks compatible with the players we have and their QB has the abillity to get up under center. They've had a few power plays mixed in. I like the versatility. I could see this working.
I might have to be in class in Pittsburgh on Monday, but I just cleared my schedule until then! It's 1,250 miles to Frisco Texas, I have a full tank of gas, half a bottle of chloroform, it's dark and I'm wearing sunglasses. You're coming to Ann Arbor, Keeler. I hope you'll be very happy in your new home.
Not surprised Harbaugh chose to go to the pros - this was going to be his best chance to get a good deal. I'm not sure he'll succeed at SF unless he gets a good QB there, but they'll probably make the playoffs and that is enough.
I still think Miles is the odds-on choice with Hoke a backup. I'm not crazy about either of them (I would prefer Patterson or Mullen), but I guess it would help with recruiting in the short term.
I will transfer to LSU if Miles is our next coach.
in Baton Rouge. It won't be that bad for you.
it will be bad for your career after school.
They destroyed UMASS last year, FWIW.
Does anyone notice that the Championship is being played between two teams not ranked 1st or 2nd?
pregame goes before the MIles to Michigan line is uttered?
I've got 3 minutes
Delaware is really dominating this game but settling for FGs (yes, those exist). Hopefully it doesn't come back to bite them.
Delaware drive stalls on the 20, FG is good, 5 minutes to halftime.
I doubt that Miles will be our next coach, but I'm losing track of who it would be a giant fuck you to if we did hire him. Lloyd? Martin? Bo? Harbaugh?
Help me out.
Is loving him some Blue Hen football. Wow, this guys actually knows what he is talking about somewhat. I didn't see that coming.
EDIT: He actually played at Delaware for a year. Wow, did not know that. Kind of a Gerald Ford wannabee.
Joe would look GREAT in a winged helmet.
Except Biden actually got elected to be Vice President.
Joe Biden is hanging out with the announcers for the Delaware game. I knew he's an alum but definitely a pleasant surprise.
who played in the last confederate bowl? was it lsu?
Feel like the cotton bowl pre-game is more NASCAR than college football. The fact that it's on fox isnt helping
FOX should be banned from broadcasting college games. We blast ESPN for a lot of stuff, but one thing they have right is a good set of announcers that are great for the college game. Listening to Kenny Albert butcher his way through a college game? No thanks. Mute button, you are my savior.
ESPN does capture the college atmoshphere. They don't treat it like it's a way to kill time until their real job.
Michigan and ytMSU still tied at 0 in the 2nd.
Edit: ytMSU just scored the first goal.
Edit #2: M scores but goes up to the booth for review. And it's overturned.
PAT is partially blocked but still good. Delaware is rolling.
... what's with the Hitler Youth in the stands?
Any rentals in Tuscany?
Is really looking good right now. Well prepared, on top of their assignments and tackling well. I'm really impressed with this D.
Any one else noticing how the LSU O would work good with Denard and the O?
Our best shot at a winning record next year and avoiding a major player defection is Les Miles.
I worry about us running all that I formation, it was a disaster this year.
We probably didn't practice it that much.
I like the multiple formations as well
Warming up to the idea. Though Schad says he's maybe less interested now than he was 3 years ago
I'm open to many names in the search and content to let it play out. Except Hoke
I think Les opened up in that game running the QB a lot to a) win of course, and b) show off how Denard/Tate/Devin could be used.
Go Les Miles!
caveats about grass, signing, etc.
I am really impressed with Delaware's strong fundamentals. The receiver's pass was underthrown, he tried to get the ball, got tipped so he just tackled the DB. That really has to be coached. Even their tackling, they....tackle. A shutout in a NC game? pretty good coach(es)
Brian VanGorder -- Atlanta Falcons DC.
I'd take him
Didn't he used to coach at WSU? So he has some Michigan ties no?
Brian Van Gorder's Coaching Background
- 2008-2010 -- Defensive Coordinator // Atlanta Falcons
- 2007 -- Linebackers // Atlanta Falcons
- 2006 -- Head Coach // Georgia Southern
- 2005 -- Linebackers // Jaguars
- 2001-2004 -- Defensive Coordinator/Linebackers // Georgia
- 2000 -- Defensive Coordinator/Linebackers // Central Michigan
- 1998-1999 -- Defensive Coordinator // Central Michigan
- 1997 -- Assistant Head Coach/Defensive Coordinator // Central Florida
- 1995-1996 -- Linebackers/Special Teams Coordinator // Central Florida
- 1992-1994 -- Head Coach // Wayne State
- 1989-1991 -- Defensive Coordinator/Linebackers // Grand Valley State
He didn't play or coach here, but he's spent some time in the neighborhood, and was actually born in Tony Dungy's home town (and mine) right down I-94! Has been a head coach, assistant in major university program and now DC in a terrific program that's quietly been operating under the radar since the networks forgot to schedule them nationally. Hmmm... Do his parents still live here? Nice to bring all those grandkids home...
I was just sorting through DC's in the NFL and ran across his name. Looks like he fits what DB is looking for so I just threw it out there.
dude used to be my neighbor when I was like 7 years old and growing up in canton, used to coach at wayne state...
Is Les Miles going to be able to recruit the same student athlete he gets at LSU to Michigan? I know he's with the 49ers, but with Harbaugh we knew that he would be able to. I think that is a mistake we made with RR. Even if he can recruit them, will they even qualify? I know it's kind of a messed up thing to say that players in the SEC have a lower intelligence level, but yeah...
He is surrounded with so much talent, he has to oversign them just to keep up with the demand.
That does not happen at Michigan. That is a big concern with Miles, can he do it when they're not all 4/5 stars?
Ton of PATs blocked in this game. Start of 4th quarter.
E Wash is showing some life late. Down 6-19 and driving. Can 'Laware hold on?
I would love for Michigan to look like LSU does tonight. Big lineman and even the skill guys look big! No more slot ninjas at every position.
I thought they would have hit it up much sooner. Reported the usual fluff from Les: "I've not been contacted" "I'm having a great time here, why would I leave?"
Yeah, the Jabronis on Fox made it sound like MIles was insulted that he's considered a candidate, mentioning that Bo was a young unkown coach coming out of Miami (Oh.).
Nice to hear the "Les Miles ain't interested" comments during the Cotton Bowl followed by the announcers agreeing that he would be nuts to leave LSU.
DB better have a big sleeve he's hiding something up inside of if we've got recruits deciding this weekend and no head coach.
The hits keep coming.
1) M hasn't contacted me
2) I'm having fun here, why leave?
Contrast to the Pelini/Fitz declarative Noes. He had ample opportunity to tell them Nah, I'm not a candidate for the job. The rest is chatting around the subject
First off, I don't think Fitzgerald or Pelini were ever approached by Michigan. I think their names popped up in places like Brian's list of candidates and local reporters asked about the job and got the "I'm not going anywhere" responses you mentioned.
Still, contrast Miles's comments with Harbaugh running away from the microphone. A guy who says "I think they should hire someone else who isn't like me at all" doesn't sound like a guy I expect to see in Ann Arbor any time soon.
I thought Moose said he (Moose) found it offensive how candidates with any connection to their past U's are assumed candidates, it disrupted the current team. Then separately Miles said in their talks M may not want someone like him, Bo was an unknown etc
But hell, I could have been scratching my balls and missed what you heard
I heard the young Bo comments as "If I was Michigan I wouldn't want to hire me." That didn't sound like something you say if there's any chance you'll take the job.
I could be wrong. I will probably be completely punchy until this thing gets settled. Hoping at Army game tomorrow or b-ball game Sunday. Otherwise it is going to be a long weekend of "LOL Michigan has no corch!" talk.
I thought the point of the "young Bo" commentary was that Miles was too accomplished for the job. That was the tone of the Jabroni announcer who said it.
b/c I thought 3) was him talking that he was about to go 62-17 over the last six years. In the SEC yo. After turning around a shit Oklahoma State program, during which he beat highly ranked Oklahoma teams in his first 2 years. MNC in there too somewhere, right?
Per Moose Johnston, Les found it "offensive," that he is considered a candidate because Bo was a young coach hired out of the MAC when hired by M. In other words, Les is too good for M.
That makes no sense whatsoever? Bo was hired young, thus, it's offensive to offer Les the job? Am I missing something?
The implication is that M would be a step down for Les, who is an accomplished SEC coach.
I got that impression as well. Of course, these same hobos just said that they think the Cotton Bowl will soon become the bowl game that everyone wants to play in.
Here's wishing you all an early happy Cam Newton Day!
E. Wash up 1 with less than 3 to go
Is working on his "Holy sh*t we're blowing this game face".
Face perfected. A win for the vile red turfers.
20 unanswered points for EWU in the 2nd half. Looks like no Blue Hens will be coaching Michigan next year. 2:30 remaining.
Ha. a team that wear yellow and blue and winged helmets with kicking woes. Deja Vu.
Compliments of the Angry Winged Helmet Hating God.
Time to hide it away with the Little Brown Jug until it's safe to come out.
Has Threet-like wheels.
What an unfortunate turn of events. That game turned around quickly. I knew those early FGs would come back to haunt them.
If K.C. Keeler wants to bring his defense to Michigan, I can suggest an offense. Its name is Denard Robinson.
Made me feel like I was at an old folks home.
2011 U.S. Army Player of the Year: DEMETRIUS HART. #usaab
:( Congrats to Dee Hart, I just wish you were still coming here...
Followed the link but I don't understand this tweeting nonsense. Who sent that to Dee Hart?
make me sad.
If you want Les to coach for U-M (if you don't, don't bother answering, no trying to debate that point here), do you want him to win this game? Moot point now, I realize, since it's a definitive beatdown, but since it is I'm curious if you think it helps us or hurts us? I can see it both ways.
For that matter, does the fact that it's such a beatdown help even more?
I don't think it really mattered. If he was willing to leave LSU three years ago, when they were on the brink of the national title, he'd probably be willing now. The question will be whether we want him or not.
LSU is talented, and, yes, well-coached. They took ATM's best shot, adjusted to what they did, and then shut them down.
5-1 in bowl games at LSU? That's an Urban Legend stat...
I gotta say that tonights game has provided a lot of positive evidence for Les Miles. I mean, they seemed to step up on D when it mattered. They went run heavy but got a pretty good passing performance. And, not to be overlooked: the Special Teams!
I understand everyone's concern over the oversigning and the craziness, but I think being in the B1G will solve the oversigning issue. The craziness...meh, if he wins, who cares?
Been reading for years...
I definitely think Les deserves a shot. Strong enough record with running QBs to make Robinson and Gardner feel comfortable sticking around, big enough national rep to make recruits stick around and even bring in new guys. Knows how to build a defense. Michigan background to please the bluehairs. Have Brandon keep a close eye on him as regards the Mad Hatter stuff and to keep him from acting all SEC-like with the oversignings, etc. and cover that base..
And best of all, if he also hasn't worked out in three or four years, fire him and replace him with Brady Hoke, who at that time will have either proven that a) he really does deserve the job, having done a Harbaugh-esque job at SDSU or b) that he really didn't deserve a job of this caliber simply because he probably already owns some Michigan apparel.