Franz Wagner and the NBA Draft

Submitted by BursleysFinest on July 23rd, 2021 at 2:28 PM

Two articles on the Ringer mentioning Franz:

The individual treatment from Jonathon Tjarks: https://www.theringer.com/2021/7/23/22583383/nba-draft-2021-franz-wagner-michigan-sleeper 

 

And an (updated??) full 1st round projection, with Franz going no. 9 to the Kings:

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft?_ga=2.125283855.446466803.1627061203-2038835537.1626709606

  That's about the spot I see as right for him, though I wish it was to a team that's on TV more (Kings always seemed like an NBA blackhole)

 

Summary:   Franz doesn't have the ceiling of some of the players with draft projections similar to his (late Lottery), but has a higher floor, and will be almost guaranteed to be a contributor.

 

Also really hoping the Pistons don't outsmart themselves and they take Cade Cunningham.  You don't pass up talent like his because the fit may not be perfect. 

SanDiegoWolverine

July 23rd, 2021 at 2:32 PM ^

Please don't go to the Kings. What a dysfunctional franchise. I'd really like to see him go to Charlotte, San Antonio, or Indiana. They've been doing a really good job of developing players lately.

Tunneler

July 23rd, 2021 at 2:51 PM ^

The Pistons are going to owe a 1st round pick to the Rockets. So do you trade down to the Rockets & take Jalen Green if it gets you off the hook?

ForzaBlu

July 23rd, 2021 at 2:54 PM ^

If Franz can really get that 3P shot % down he could be an all star in a few years. Khris Middleton, Andrei Kirilenko type. Perfect for the positionless, fast-paced NBA era. A guy who can defend small 5s down to big PGs? Sounds like a long career to me.

UP to LA

July 23rd, 2021 at 3:48 PM ^

Middleton and Kirilenko are very different players. I don't see Franz being as wildly disruptive on defense as AK-47 (who, at his peak, was truly generational), and I don't see him being an elite shot maker like Middleton. But he's likely to be a very good defender who can add some value on offense -- the kind of guy who can profitably slot into a playoff rotation.

It's easy to fall into hyperbole with late-lottery projections. But getting a Thaddeus Young type at 9 is a win, and that's the sort of comp that I like for Franz.

club2230

July 24th, 2021 at 7:49 PM ^

My Wagner comparison is Tayshaun Prince.  He had a pretty good career.  Wagner is probably more skilled with the ball in his hands, so probably a higher ceiling.  

ironman4579

July 25th, 2021 at 12:40 PM ^

Really hope he doesn't go to the Kings.  They've been terrible at developing draft picks.  I truly believe Nik Stauskas could have had a Duncan Robinson type career if he didn't go to the Kings.

 

I do also get at least a little irritated with the idea that Franz is somehow a finished product and low ceiling.  You've got guys like Scottie Barnes being talked about in the top 5 because of potential, but Wagner is younger than a bunch of these freshman.  I get it's mostly about athleticism, but acting as if Wagner's game is a finished product at 19 is crazy to me.