Football Study Hall piece on M offense under Shea

Submitted by MichFan1997 on

https://www.footballstudyhall.com/2018/8/27/17766048/what-could-a-jim-harbaugh-spread-offense-look-like-shea-patterson

mrkid

August 28th, 2018 at 4:57 PM ^

Seeing Ben Mason split out wide would be the strangest thing and potentially the most Harbaugh thing. I'm so curious and excited to see what the offense will look like on Saturday.

Craptain Crunch

August 28th, 2018 at 4:59 PM ^

We are going to find out soon enough. Let's hope it actually is something we can cheer about when Michigan deeeeeeeestroys Notre Lame in South Bend Over. I could really use a blow out score of Michigan 42 Notre Dame 0.

Alumnus93

August 28th, 2018 at 5:05 PM ^

Shouldnt dump on ND .Kelly is an ass yes but their program is probably the closest thing to ours, and they are generally fine people like Iowa and Wisconsin.  

Now, re MSU, OSU, as you were....

The Mad Hatter

August 28th, 2018 at 6:32 PM ^

I used to think that too, and then I spent some time on their campus. Sure, they're smart, and they have a football tradition (that we gave them), but otherwise they're nothing like us. 

I've never seen a more repressed and miserable group of people in my life. Really the opposite of Ann Arbor. 

BlueLikeJazz

August 28th, 2018 at 5:24 PM ^

2 things about this.

1-This article implies UM will be an IZ running team because that’s Warriner’s speciality. I thought that was disastrous last year and they were going to focus on power. 

2-All of the formations listed sound fun but you should probably swap McKeown and Gentry in all of them.

brick9

August 28th, 2018 at 6:58 PM ^

They were awful at IZ last year, but maybe Warriner’s simplified approach has allowed this to be reintroduced. It makes sense if they are indeed going to feature more RPO and spread-like concepts. If they run it well enough it can open the counter and the pass play Denard executed regularly.... the fake IZ quick slot slant pass. 

1VaBlue1

August 28th, 2018 at 8:11 PM ^

I don't think they stopped running IZ last year.  Yeah, the went away from it and back to power runs to clean things up mid-season, but they were still running IZ late in the year.  And with far more success than they had early!  I think they used it more as a constraint play, rather than as the base scheme like they had early on.  In any case, they used it for good yardage later in the season against both Wisconsin and OSU.

DTOW

August 28th, 2018 at 6:45 PM ^

I think there's some good information and concepts in this article, however, I still think our primary offense is going to be gap concepts and power formations.  These spread concepts will most likely be implemented to supplement our primary offense.  There no way that Shea trained all offseason on being under center for them just to abandon it.  Additionally, I just don't see us switching back into an IZ scheme after the disaster that was last year.  

smotheringD

August 28th, 2018 at 7:01 PM ^

"With Shea Patterson, a simplified and spread-friendly yet still downhill blocking scheme, and the pro-style talent that’s already assembled in Ann Arbor, this Michigan team could potentially put it all together in a magical way this coming season."

Yes, Lawd Yes!

Mpfnfu Ford

August 28th, 2018 at 9:24 PM ^

I'm sorry, I just think it's smarter to make teams space out if you want to gash 'em up the middle than stuffing everyone inside all the time. And if you've got those guys on the roster, you can do all the shifting Matt Canada innovated where you'll shift from power sets to spread with the same beefy personnel.

Look at what Harbaugh disciple Willie Taggart did at USF/Oregon. Spread the field but with lots of beef on the field and run all your power o from the shotgun with a lot of power read/power read toss if you've got a runner and a lot of RPO if you've got a passer. 

mitchewr

August 29th, 2018 at 2:53 PM ^

I'm the same.

Outside of '13 FSU and BAMA fielding an entire team of 5* talent because BAMA, it seems pretty obvious that spread teams with big powerful players (ie. NOT Rich Rod style) dominate CFB. All the top teams are running it. Would be nice to see the offense modernize along the lines of Clemson, PSU, etc.

jsquigg

August 28th, 2018 at 11:59 PM ^

I hope they go more spread, but I hope the offense becomes less Borges-ian.  '15 and '16 were good in that they had tons of personnel packages combined with creative play calling.  '17 was an identity free mess with few exceptions.