Fangio: Defensive Coordinator of the Year

Submitted by caup on

Stanford's Vic Fangio was awarded Defensive Coordinator of the Year.

IMO, it's this guy that makes the Harbaugh option much more attractive.  If Fangio wouldn't follow Jimmy, but Casteel would come work for RR, then I'd say keep RR.

Don

December 14th, 2010 at 11:03 AM ^

His resume blows Gerg's out of the water, IMHO.

Whether or not Fangio would have come here with no control over the makeup of his staff is another question entirely.

Wolverine0056

December 14th, 2010 at 11:03 AM ^

Well congrats to him but I am still for RR staying. Hopefully Casteel comes to UM but if not we need someone that can run a defense. Sorry GERG but your stuffed animal and other tactics just don't cut it.

Hardware Sushi

December 14th, 2010 at 11:04 AM ^

Any info as to his background? As I understand, Stanford has had some poorly rated defenses in the past 3 years and really started to make the turnaround this year.

Is Fangio new to Stanford this season? Last season, Stanford made some steps forward, was that his start? Just curious for more info, thanks.

caup

December 14th, 2010 at 11:24 AM ^

Fangio made an immediate and dramatic impact.  He worked for Jim's brother on the Raven's staff.  Fangio has a very impressive resume. He is not a youngster.

This guy's performance in his first year is further evidence against people who argue for the M defensive staff to stay intact for continuity's sake.  F that.  Defensive schemes are much less complex and it isn't uncommon to see huge improvements in a new DC's 1st year.

BRCE

December 14th, 2010 at 11:23 AM ^

We did break out a full-fledged 3-3-5 in the Purdue game in Shafer's year. Little birdies have said Gibson and Tall were pushing for it all along and this was a reason they couldn't get along with Shafer.

It is very damning that RR hired a guy he had never worked with, fed him his assistants, indeed did force a system for at least a portion of the season, saw that way of working blow up in his face, and then repeated the exact same mistake with the GERG hire. Perhaps it was Gibson, Tall and Hopson who should have been shown the door after '08, not Shafer.

 

PurpleStuff

December 14th, 2010 at 11:36 AM ^

After giving up 45 to Illinois, 46 to Penn State, and 35 to MSU (after giving up 35 to ND earlier in the year), the head coach and some of the assistants thought maybe they should try something different?  Obviously it didn't work, but how many people would have been complaining if they had done the same shit that they all knew wasn't working?

And of course the next two weeks they held Minnesota to 6 points and Northwestern to 21.  So post "meddling" things actually got better.  But yeah, it makes sense to keep complaining that the coach "forced" a system they tried for one game to mix things up when the defense was not performing.

If that was the plan, why did the coaches not play that system they were dying to force on the defensive coordinator at all the next season?

BRCE

December 14th, 2010 at 12:47 PM ^

You're right. They did not. It was a one game experiment and it took the cake for defensive disasters in '08.

All those poor performances earlier in the year that he mentioned pale in comparison to yielding 48 points to a bowlless, Justin Siller-led Purdue squad.

PurpleStuff

December 14th, 2010 at 1:02 PM ^

They ran it for one game over a two year period, yet the overriding sentiment seems to be that Rodriguez has been hellbent on forcing his uncooperative defensive coordinators to run the 3-3-5 against their will.

Obviously the Purdue game was a shitstorm, but the same people complaining about changing up the defense for that game are the same who will bitch and moan that Rodriguez doesn't take any interest in the defense and never makes adjustments and when he does make adjustments and they work out (e.g. swapping Ezeh for Demens in the starting lineup) they still bitch that the change didn't happen soon enough.

Personally, I think Shafer is a very good defensive coordinator.  My problem is with the people who all wanted him fired for struggling with a sub-par roster (when sophomore Obi Ezeh is your default starting middle linebacker, for example, your defense is probably going to struggle) that, as you point out, was constantly put in bad situations because of the offense.  Now these same people, seeing him have success elsewhere, are in unanimous agreement that it was a stupid move to fire him.  These same people now are convinced Greg Robinson spends his evenings sipping cognac by a roaring fire before unsuccessfully attempting to fuck a doorknob.  These people don't have a good track record as far as I'm concerned.

Magnus

December 14th, 2010 at 1:20 PM ^

Wait . . . so you're saying that giving up 40+ points to Justin Siller and Purdue while running a 3-3-5 wasn't a big deal?  Purdue sucked that year.  All those other teams you listed (PSU, Illinois, etc.) were decent teams in 2008, and let's not forget that the offense was atrocious, which led to a lot of those points.

Then Minnesota (who sucked) and Northwestern (in driving snow) scored only a few points, and somehow that's a success story?

Rodriguez and his staff WERE hellbent on running the 3-3-5.  If you don't believe us about 2008, then just take a look at the 2009-10 offseason . . . when they installed the 3-3-5 again.

PurpleStuff

December 14th, 2010 at 3:53 PM ^

When did I say giving up a ton of points to Purdue wasn't a big deal?  My point was that with respect to running the 3-3-5, it is a lone outlier in Rodriguez's first two full seasons at Michigan.  If they were hellbent on running the 3-3-5, why didn't they implement it in the 2008-09 offseason?  Or the previous offseason?  Head football coaches, who as far as I know have the power to do whatever the hell they want with respect to on-field decisions, don't need to wait two years to do something if they are "hellbent" on making it happen.

Obviously the Purdue game was a total screwup on defense, but the same people who complained about the failed change were the same ones constantly complaining that Rodriguez and Co. needed to make changes and try anything (the "just blitz every play" crowd) on that side of the ball.  They tried something new for one game, it didn't work (though nothing else had been successful earlier) and a week later the team played its best two defensive games of the season (not a "success story", but a huge improvement over prior results)

Also, Illinois went 5-7 that year.  If they were a decent team then Purdue wasn't far behind and Minnesota (who had a better record and beat them in Champaign, despite your claims that they sucked) was downright awesome.

El Jefe

December 14th, 2010 at 11:16 AM ^

Baltimore assistant coach/ linebackers coach last year with John Harbaugh.   He was with Baltimore from 2006 to 2009.

Defensive Coordinator for Houston, Indy, and Carolina and I think he was in New Orleans for awhile in the late 80's or early 90's.

Marvin

December 14th, 2010 at 11:39 AM ^

We need to hire a  defensive coordinator who make Stanford look good! I wonder if there are any past Stanford defensive coordiinators we could hire? Remember when Stanford beat USC when USC was awesome? Could we get the guy who engineered that masterpiece I wonder?

Glen Masons Hot Wife

December 14th, 2010 at 11:50 AM ^

He wasn't a very popular D-Coordinator in the places he coached at in the NFL. Scuttlebutt is that he cost Capers his HC job twice.

Worked around him before. Extremely quiet. They didn't exactly shut down Oregon. I think I'd take Shafer instead.