ESPN Rittenberg: Michigan urges Big Ten to respect due process, NCAA investigation
Of course not Thamel, but it's a start....
November 5th, 2023 at 12:23 AM ^
Aw shit… you don’t say?
This wouldn’t happen to have anything to do with Santa Ono’s letter posted here like 10 hours ago, would it?
November 5th, 2023 at 8:51 AM ^
The problem with Ono’s letter is that it was issued *prior* to Michigan’s meeting with Pettiti. So it’s possible that Pettiti used that meeting to share his “investigative” findings and give Michigan a chance to respond. I’m not sure if the meeting would meet the requirements in the B1G bylaws, but it’s certainly unclear based on what is public whether or not the meeting with Pettiti changed some of the factors that Ono’s letter discussed regarding Pettiti following the B1G’s mandated procedures.
Translation: A lot of uncertainty right now as to whether or not a court would side with us or the B1G in litigation. Pettiti went to Harvard Law School and will not be unsophisticated about such things.
November 5th, 2023 at 12:24 AM ^
Warde Manuel has nothing to say
November 5th, 2023 at 12:31 AM ^
He’s too busy watching Santa do his job for him.
November 5th, 2023 at 12:41 AM ^
He should be saying something, but this is a Ono matter at this point.
When the B1G commish is involved, that's the presidents...it's beyond just the AD level.
That said, Warde isn't going to make a comment at this point without his bosses sign off. My issue with Warde is he could've made this same statement a week or two ago. Now it's too late.
That said, a statement from Warde isn't doing shit. Let's be honest. Warde urging for due process wouldn't have gotten anything accomplished.
The only thing Warde should be doing is figuring out how to mitigate this disaster while simultaneously digging up everything he can get on every other team in the league. That's how he makes himself useful. It's too late for statements and grandstanding.
November 5th, 2023 at 2:31 AM ^
Warde's value at this point is being a high profile head that the program can live without, so it can roll.
November 5th, 2023 at 12:24 AM ^
we already know cuz Ono’s letter was made public and posted here earlier today
good luck with your negs
November 5th, 2023 at 12:36 AM ^
No problem. Gladly.
This is the first time I've seen ESPN report anything from Michigan perspective, so I thought it was thread worthy?
Mods/board, please delete and apologies if this is inappropriate.
November 5th, 2023 at 7:46 AM ^
Whoops.
November 5th, 2023 at 9:40 AM ^
I don’t think this went the way you thought it would
November 5th, 2023 at 12:27 AM ^
Thank God. I needed some good news after I heard that Keith Jackson died. RIP you ol’ hoss.
November 5th, 2023 at 12:32 AM ^
We lost a great one with Keith
November 5th, 2023 at 12:34 AM ^
he died? next thing you’re gonna tell me walked on the moon
November 5th, 2023 at 12:36 AM ^
Moon landing - Whoa Nellie?!
November 5th, 2023 at 12:36 AM ^
You shouldn't be getting negged, because this is the first I've seen a national sports outlet report on this. Yes, we already knew about Ono's letter, but we didnt know if any national media was going to report on it, so, it's good to see this.
November 5th, 2023 at 12:37 AM ^
A meth lord assuring that you should not be negged must be taken with a substantial grain of salt
November 5th, 2023 at 12:45 AM ^
I’m not sure I’d be accepting a substantial grain of salt from a meth lord. After all, methamphetamine hydrochloride, aka crystal meth… is (chemically) an organic salt.
November 5th, 2023 at 12:50 AM ^
Yeah - probably a good idea to proceed very cautiously with Walter at any level.
November 5th, 2023 at 12:56 AM ^
Just any old meth lord huh?
Say my name.
November 5th, 2023 at 12:43 AM ^
"I have nothing to say," Manuel said.
November 5th, 2023 at 12:47 AM ^
In a break from the usual, he did speak this time. By literally stating that he has nothing to say. next level inconsequentiality.
November 5th, 2023 at 1:01 AM ^
Consider me jumping on the “fire Warde” wagon after the no comment action. Get it that things need to be vetted through PR, president, etc., but holy shit. UM has gone three weeks of getting lambasted from every aspect of so called media and this is it from him? No comment? Show support in media and say you stand with Ono. Say you support Harbaugh. Say you want to see due process play out. SAY ANYTHING. I know he’s limited, but genuinely, what the hell is he doing??
November 5th, 2023 at 1:21 AM ^
He is doing his job.
The athletic director is not supposed to be a fan. He is not supposed to be a public cheerleader for the head coach, particularly when such cheerleading would violate NCAA regulations. “No comment” is exactly what he’s supposed to say, because it’s all he’s allowed to say.
November 5th, 2023 at 4:27 AM ^
Clearly you’re not in the crisis management business
November 5th, 2023 at 5:00 AM ^
Come on. If he doesn't want to put his neck out for Harbaugh, fine. Harbaugh is a millionnaire and a guy who has seen it all. But, those players don't deserve this. He could have just shown some support to the team. Just blanket "support our team". Or "Our President said it best. I will leave it at that". I am not bashing him and if he can work the back channels great. But saying something is not going to ruin anything.
November 5th, 2023 at 8:20 AM ^
Feels extremely unlikely that he's some super skilled operator behind the scenes when his public facing statements and actions are either non-existent or inconsequential.
November 5th, 2023 at 1:25 AM ^
My impression is that Rittenberg is a decent reporter, but he missed the real story here. The real story is the not-so-subtle notification that if the Big Ten takes any substantive disciplinary action without going through proper procedures Michigan will file for an injunction and almost certainly get one.
November 5th, 2023 at 2:19 AM ^
This article is pathetic.
- It is led by a giant video player with a headline saying “Thanel says what happens to Michigan next”
- Thamel is cited throughout, basically as a source
- It refers to sign stealing as cheating
- It contradicts Ono’s letter
- It buries the important bits of Ono’s letter, including a throwaway line at the end that sources say Michigan will contest any immediate punishment from the league
- It refers to “Sources” throughout
I could go on. It looks like this is the best they can do.
November 5th, 2023 at 5:03 AM ^
Yep. That is what I got out of that one. It is still something but it is like they are using a lousy and biased source "Thamel" who doesn't really have independent sources and justifying what Thamel is doing. Creating a narrative that Thamel is right. Fuck ESPN.
November 5th, 2023 at 7:54 AM ^
as Petitti mulls potential discipline for the Wolverines for alleged off-campus scouting and signal stealing
Yep, that is very poorly worded. Anyone who already knows the facts can blow right past that and know what it really is supposed to mean. But to someone who hasn't been paying attention, this pretty clearly looks like Michigan is going to be disciplined for "signal stealing" in addition to off-campus scouting.
November 5th, 2023 at 4:29 AM ^
Rittenberg is a clown.