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Elite 11 Day 2

 

RT @ScoutKennedy: "So the QBs are throwing 55 yards at a target,@S_Morris12 dropped back to the 35 and hit the End line, 75 yards"

Brian Stumpf ‏@BrianStumpfESPN

S/O to Shane Morris (@S_Morris12) - winner of the Day 2 Golden Gun Accuracy Challenge @Elite11 #GoBlue



Brian Stumpf ‏@BrianStumpfESPN

Asiantii Woulard and Shane Morris showed a lot today @Elite11. Woulard battled thru groin to have great day and Shane passed Dilfer's test

Just a couple of tweets showing how it went.
I wonder what Dilfer's test was, though.

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July 19th, 2012 at 5:54 PM | I guess this goes with pocket (Score:2)
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I guess this goes with pocket presence, but everyone has praised his footwork.  It is good to know that he already has great footwork because people always say it starts with the base.

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July 19th, 2012 at 3:14 PM | Are you reading this, Mr. (Score:5 Normal)
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Are you reading this, Mr. Treadwell?

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July 19th, 2012 at 3:14 PM | Dilfer's test (Score:-1 Trolling)
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Shit-talk every QB in the NFL for mistakes you're not even good enough to make yourself. What a wanker. He also said Morris "needs to learn to tempo the ball." THAT IS NOT ENGLISH, DOUCHEFER.

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July 19th, 2012 at 3:19 PM | a) Whether he could make the (Score:5 Normal)
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a) Whether he could make the throws or not, he won a Super Bowl.

b) It's football talk.

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July 19th, 2012 at 3:22 PM | I think you'll find (Score:-1 Trolling)
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That three guys named Lewis won that Super Bowl. He's the sorriest excuse for a Super Bowl-winning quarterback in the history of the sport. He's not fit to carry Brad Johnson's jock.

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July 19th, 2012 at 3:31 PM | Brady Hoke and Nick Saban (Score:5 Normal)
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Brady Hoke and Nick Saban were both excellent football players, right?  That must be the only reason they became good football coaches.

Dilfer made it to the NFL, was a first round pick, and won the Super Bowl, regardless of whether you think he was talented or not.  

It takes a team to win a championship, and Dilfer was just as much a part of that team as anyone else.

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July 19th, 2012 at 3:37 PM | Your first paragraph is (Score:2)
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Your first paragraph is really all you needed. I don't remember Bill Belichick winning the Super Bowl as a player. Hell, Harbaugh was an average NFL QB but it looks like he's a pretty good coach. Why does Dilfer need to be a great QB to be a great QB coach?

Under your argument, Borges must be a God-awful QB coach, right?

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July 19th, 2012 at 3:42 PM | Dilfer isn't a QB coach (Score:-1 Trolling)
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He's an analyst. He has never coached a day in his life. If John Gruden were conducting these camps, I would be thrilled. Not because he was a great QB, but because he's made a lot of QBs play at their very best. If Trent Dilfer ever shows himself capable of developing the talent of a player, I'll stop bashing him. I await that day. For now, he's no better than Skip Bayless. It's an insult to Nick Saban and Brady Hoke to put Dilfer in their class.

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July 19th, 2012 at 3:49 PM | Trolling hard, (Score:2 Normal)
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really hard.

de'nard dog: michigan, ever heard of it?

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July 19th, 2012 at 3:54 PM | What's trolling here? (Score:-1 Trolling)
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He's not a coach and never has been at any level.

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July 19th, 2012 at 4:13 PM | What does that have to do (Score:5 Normal)
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What does that have to do with anything? That is like saying someone who has worked with math day in and day out for 20 years should not be allowed to help kids with math due to him never having been certified to teach. 

"You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." - Winston Churchill

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July 19th, 2012 at 5:17 PM | Dilfer banged your girlfriend (Score:5 Normal)
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Dilfer banged your girlfriend or something, bro?

Hail.

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July 19th, 2012 at 7:13 PM | Morepete, if i'm a high (Score:2 Normal)
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Morepete, if i'm a high school QB, or a college QB for that matter, I might take the advice of a guy like Trent Dilfer. It's not like Trent is an Al Bundy who relives his days as a high school star and disappeared into obscurity, nor is he a guy who sits at his computer and picks apart the careers of people who make a living doing, and later analyzing, what armchair computer man only dreams he did.

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July 20th, 2012 at 11:24 AM | Is there any way... (Score:2)
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Is there any way I could get lesspete?

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July 19th, 2012 at 3:54 PM | Except he IS coaching... (Score:2 Normal)
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coach (v): to give instruction or advice

coach (n): a person who trains an athlete or team of athletes

 

Nowhere in either of those definitions does it say that a coach has to be paid. He's providing insight and instruction to the young men at the Elite 11 camp this week...pretty sure some of the guys that go through the camp under his instruction will turn into servicable NFL players...but you would probably suggest that it was due in no part to his guidance, right?

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July 19th, 2012 at 3:55 PM | If Shane wins the Heisman... (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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Who will you give credit to?

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July 19th, 2012 at 4:14 PM | Yeah, you're going a little (Score:5 Normal)
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Yeah, you're going a little overboard on the Dilfer hate here. If you don't like him as an ESPN analyst, that's fine. But that's not what does with Elite 11. Here he is a coach, and talent evaluator. You bringing up his playing career is irrelevant and sounds like you're just grasping at a reason to say you don't like him.

Fine, say you don't like him. You don't even need to say why. But to argue with people here about why you think Dilfer sucks is pretty asinine.

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July 19th, 2012 at 4:18 PM | I stopped talking about his playing career three posts ago. (Score:-1 Trolling)
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My anger is more at ESPN for making him an expert that commands respect, in spite of never coaching and being known toward the end of his career for refusing to mentor young QBs he backed up. Again, I would literally take any QB coach who has been paid to do the job over him. Given that his opinion will shape the rankings of all these young players, I think I have a right to be cynical about his role in Elite 11.

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July 19th, 2012 at 4:24 PM | His opinion will not have (Score:5 Normal)
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His opinion will not have that much of an impact on their rankings. It's not like Rivals or Scout will say, "We don't think he's that good, but Trent Dilfer does so lets move him up a hundred spots in the rankings."

You probably need a chill pill.

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July 19th, 2012 at 5:26 PM | Why the angst?  The Elite 11 (Score:1)
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Why the angst?  The Elite 11 camp goes about 0.00000001% toward shaping the outcome of the games in the Fall, so really, why give such a big shit?  It's just a fluff event anyway.  It's one thing to get pissed at say, having to listen to Chris Berman use the same, tired "rumbling, bumbling, stumbling!  WHOOOP!  (3 Stooges shriek) WHOOOP!!" innane material week in and week out on ESPN's weekly NFL coverage, but Dilfer?   Yaawn.

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July 19th, 2012 at 7:08 PM | Agreed. His real hatred (Score:4 Normal)
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Agreed. His real hatred should be towards Tim Hasselback.

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July 19th, 2012 at 4:14 PM | 100% of the credit (Score:5 Normal)
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Will go directly to Trent Dilfer

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July 19th, 2012 at 4:44 PM | If Gruden was coaching this (Score:2)
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If Gruden was coaching this thing, and Shane won the Heisman eventually, who would you give the credit to? The answer stays the same. So your argument is meaningless.

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July 19th, 2012 at 5:50 PM | Please refer to the question I was responding to (Score:1 Normal)
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He was trying to make it sound like Shane will owe his greatness to Dilfer. That's what I answered. No coach will make a positive impact in four days.

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July 19th, 2012 at 6:00 PM | It is myopic and ignorant to (Score:2)
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It is myopic and ignorant to say no coach will make a positive impact in four days.  Dilfer saying one little thing to Shane about his mechanics, footwork, etc. can stick and have a positive impact.

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July 19th, 2012 at 6:34 PM | Your reading comprehension needs work (Score:1 Normal)
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How did you gather that I think all of Shane's accomplishments should be credited to Dilfer? I said that he will undoubtedly be coach players at this camp that turn into servicable NFL players. In no way did I state that Shane's success will be the result of Dilfer. My point was that he IS COACHING right now, at this clinic. Like it or not, youre way off base here, bro.

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July 19th, 2012 at 5:08 PM | I'm not sure I would call (Score:3 Normal)
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I'm not sure I would call Harbaugh an average NFL QB...He was an NFL starter for a decade, was a pro bowler, and threw for 26k+ yards...I gotta think that is better than the average quarterback

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.

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July 19th, 2012 at 7:41 PM | OK - that wasn't supposed to (Score:3 Normal)
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OK - that wasn't supposed to be a dig on Harbaugh, he had a solid career and a couple very good years.  My point was more that you don't have to be a hall of famer as a player to be a very good coach. 

Maybe an average starting QB?  Being a starter for that many years means you're above average already, but compared to the rest of the NFL starters while he played, he was probably middle third.

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July 19th, 2012 at 4:15 PM | Trent Dilfer>Heath Shuler (Score:1 Normal)
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Trent Dilfer>Heath Shuler

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July 19th, 2012 at 4:19 PM | As a Redskins fan,please (Score:3 Funny)
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As a Redskins fan,please never mention Heath Shuler ever again.ever.

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July 19th, 2012 at 4:30 PM | haha, duly noted (Score:2 Funny)
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haha, duly noted

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July 19th, 2012 at 5:05 PM | I am also a Redskin fan and I (Score:2 Normal)
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I am also a Redskin fan and I concur with this request.

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July 19th, 2012 at 5:33 PM | I've lived in DC for 12 years (Score:1)
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I've lived in DC for 12 years now and still detest the Redskins for beating the 91 Lions in the NFC Championship game after Eric Kramer and Barry Sanders and crew housed the Cowboys.  The Redskins Cheerleaders however, I've been a fan.  LIONS FOREVER!!!

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July 19th, 2012 at 3:21 PM | Agreed.  The test is to watch (Score:3 Normal)
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MGoPoints: 392

Agreed.  The test is to watch that overgrown child make an ass of himself, screaming and jumping around a bunch of teenagers, while resisting the urge to chuck the ball straight at his dick.

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July 19th, 2012 at 3:22 PM | XD (Score:1)
Bronco648
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Joined: 08/20/2008
MGoPoints: 998

XD

Nobody home...

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July 19th, 2012 at 3:30 PM | Ha Ha.  you said wanker (Score:1)
robbyt003
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Joined: 10/25/2010
MGoPoints: 2585

Ha Ha.  you said wanker

“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler

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July 19th, 2012 at 3:21 PM | Woulard battled thru groin to have great day? (Score:5 Normal)
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Joined: 05/14/2009
MGoPoints: 468

"Real n*gg*z do real things." -Braylon Edwards

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July 19th, 2012 at 4:17 PM | Uhhhh, I may be an idiot, but (Score:4 Normal)
dothepose
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Joined: 12/30/2008
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Uhhhh, I may be an idiot, but what does this picture have to do with Woulard's groin?

You know, Dude, I myself dabbled in pacifism once. Not in 'Nam of course.

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July 19th, 2012 at 4:20 PM | meta (Score:5 Normal)
notetoself
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MGoPoints: 468

dong forest. play on words. humor.

"Real n*gg*z do real things." -Braylon Edwards

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July 19th, 2012 at 6:01 PM | I laffed. (Score:3 Normal)
ken725
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Joined: 10/26/2008
MGoPoints: 4540

I laffed.

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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July 19th, 2012 at 3:24 PM | Random Question... (Score:2 Normal)
Michigander
Joined: 07/18/2012
MGoPoints: 1

Who do we have a shot with in the 2014 class? Any potential top players?...

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July 19th, 2012 at 3:42 PM | Random answer (Score:3 Funny)
Hardware Sushi
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Joined: 03/08/2010
MGoPoints: 3480

Dillon Baxter and Dee Hart

Intensity is a lot of guys that run fast.

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July 19th, 2012 at 3:31 PM | I think I figured out Dilfer's test (Score:2 Normal)
T-town Wolv
Joined: 12/01/2010
MGoPoints: 159

"@S_Morris12 dropped back to the 35 and hit the End line, 75 yards"

That sounds like a good test for his arm strength.

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July 19th, 2012 at 3:35 PM | Based on this article from last year, (Score:2)
Daniel
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MGoPoints: 484

Based on this article from last year, I'm going to assume it was a memorize-a-playbook-despite-not-getting-nearly-enough-sleep type of test.

Combined with the Golden Gun award, it looks like young Mr. Morris is having a good day.

Formerly 'mgoblaniel.'

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July 19th, 2012 at 3:35 PM | Read before reacting (Score:2 Normal)
LordVoldemort
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Joined: 07/08/2011
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Shane reminds me of Kyle Boller right now. I remember when Kyle was coming out of high school, I thought he had everything. That same big arm, velocity, good head on his shoulders, and above average speed and technique. Kyle, obviously, didn't pan out in the NFL, but was still a very good college QB. Shane understands the game more at this point in his career, but the comparison is pretty fair at this juncture. This is not a negative comparison, and if people think that, they'll only see Kyle's NFL career.

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July 19th, 2012 at 3:39 PM | Yeah, I think I'd be pretty (Score:3 Normal)
WolvinLA2
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Yeah, I think I'd be pretty happy with Kyle Boller's college career.

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July 19th, 2012 at 3:41 PM | Voldermort giving (Score:1)
T-town Wolv
Joined: 12/01/2010
MGoPoints: 159

comparisons on football. HALOL

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July 19th, 2012 at 3:41 PM | Wait (Score:3 Normal)
BiSB
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MGoPoints: 27875

You're saying that the Ravens won't win a Super Bowl with Shane Morris as QB?

OH NOES, PANIC!!!!

/I'm running out of things with which to be concerned re: Morris

They no longer call me Bisbiño

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July 19th, 2012 at 4:41 PM | It's a good comparison for (Score:2)
Elmer
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Joined: 04/22/2011
MGoPoints: 2098

It's a good comparison for right now, but we won't know the real answer for a few years.  I read that at Cal, Tedford only had him read half the field to simplify things.  For all we know, Shane could be much better at reading defenses and anticipiting throws.  Hopefully he's a hybrid of Boller and Bernie Kosar.

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July 19th, 2012 at 3:41 PM | I just want to see Farrell cringe and eat his words. (Score:2)
hart20
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Joined: 05/25/2011
MGoPoints: 3705

I hate that douchebag.

Yep, that's Simba made out of a pineapple.

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