ECU Snowflakes: Special Teams
September 2nd, 2023 at 3:24 PM ^
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September 2nd, 2023 at 3:25 PM ^
Uhhhh not good Bob.
September 2nd, 2023 at 3:28 PM ^
Miss Moody
September 2nd, 2023 at 3:29 PM ^
STOP!!! Samaha time!!
September 2nd, 2023 at 3:30 PM ^
Turner is reminding me of Quinn Nordin. Sometimes its a beautiful kick, sometimes its a horrific shank. Hopefully its just game 1 jitters
September 2nd, 2023 at 4:11 PM ^
I can forgive the deep miss. He’s not known for his leg strength so putting that extra oomph into his kicks can come with some shaky accuracy. That’s understandable.
I did NOT enjoy the missed XP and then another one later in the game that didn’t look pretty either
September 2nd, 2023 at 3:30 PM ^
That 50 yarder was pure.
Other things were not.
September 2nd, 2023 at 5:22 PM ^
Missed the one they called a timeout on, then nailed the 50 yarder after the timeout. Missed an extra point. We were spoiled with Moody as he was automatic
September 2nd, 2023 at 6:12 PM ^
No he made the "practice" kick from 50 after ECU called timeout, although it didn't look nearly as pretty as the live one. Most of his kicks didn't look like particularly clean connections other than that 50 yarder down the middle with plenty of distance to spare.
September 2nd, 2023 at 3:35 PM ^
Our kickers have huge shoes to fill. The 50 yard field goal would have been good from 60, Punt returns ok give the type of kicks dealt with. Room for improvement all around.
September 2nd, 2023 at 3:39 PM ^
Turner might be unpredictable all year. That 50 yarder was crushed dead center. 52 not even close. 50 yard practice shot was a duck that was barely far enough. Missed extra point and some others were iffy. Looks like a #collegekicker to me
September 2nd, 2023 at 3:50 PM ^
Robbins and Moody are gone so we knew there would be a step back. It was good to see a 50yd FG. Punt and kickoff returns were OK. Room for improvement. No glaring mistakes were made.
September 2nd, 2023 at 4:46 PM ^
A missed XP is a glaring mistake imo.
September 2nd, 2023 at 4:04 PM ^
Was hoping this wasn't the case but kicking is going to be the #1 issue this year and be the most likely culprit for a potential loss. Not offense, defense or coaching. But not having a reliable kicker - that says something about Turner's performance that even with a 50 yard BOMB of a kick, his XPs were so wobbly no one feels good about him right now.
September 2nd, 2023 at 4:06 PM ^
We've been spoiled.
Would have felt ok about Turner, even with the goofed xp; but that last kick - woof.
Oh well. Plenty of time to work things out. We're gonna need to make a kick at some point this season.
Other than that, no complaints. Doman looks fine. Kickoffs look fine. ST tackling looks good. Their punter was all over the place, so incomplete on punt returns.
Go Blue! Make those kicks!
September 2nd, 2023 at 4:13 PM ^
I’m MUCH more concerned about the missed XP than a shanked 52 yarder.
September 2nd, 2023 at 4:30 PM ^
I hear that - but what scares me is TWO horrible kicks in one game. One flub - especially in first game in Big House - is not surprising; two complete flubs is...concerning.
First game caveats, and lots of time to work out the kinks. I'll stay positive.
September 2nd, 2023 at 4:14 PM ^
YIKES! Missing a 52-yarder isn't a problem. Missing it like he did AND an extra point is a huge problem.
September 2nd, 2023 at 4:17 PM ^
Today I learned there's a guy named Jake Thaw on the roster....
and has been for years?
We got spoiled with Moody. Quick review of 4th yr Turner career stats show he's 2-8 from 50+ & 14-20 from 40-49 so...... I expect we will be going for it on 4th and short alot if the FG is in that upper range. Willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. They must've seen something in him.
September 2nd, 2023 at 4:36 PM ^
Phil Niekro loves Turner's ball rotation.
September 2nd, 2023 at 4:51 PM ^
Why is Thaw our returner? Normal ones banged up or what?
September 2nd, 2023 at 6:16 PM ^
He looks pretty shifty and hands looked good. English looked a little iffy catching his. Prefer using those guys in these types of games than a starter like Roman Wilson.
September 2nd, 2023 at 4:55 PM ^
Thaw gave a lot of field position away with letting balls bounce, and then made a couple risky decisions to over compensate later. Turner has the leg but doesn't seem to be striking the ball consistently. IDK, it might be the hold?
September 2nd, 2023 at 6:07 PM ^
Just give him some time.......
September 2nd, 2023 at 10:46 PM ^
…to thaw out?
September 2nd, 2023 at 7:07 PM ^
We shouldn't settle for FGs this year since this new guy is no Moody.
September 2nd, 2023 at 7:46 PM ^
With all due respect to the kid, Jake Thaw should never being a starting punt returner for Michigan. Ever. We did the same shit to open last season as well with Colesar in that role. It’s nonsense and a smack in the face to the importance of special teams.
Ebuka is returning punts for Ohio State. Bama always has a top WR or CB in that role. Rondale Moore when he was at Purdue. And on and on.
I’m not even saying it has to be a Wilson/Edwards/Corum, but for crying out loud don’t put a kid who would otherwise never sniff the field during meaningful snaps. If it’s addressed by the start of the conference opener, maybe it’s just a Harbaugh throwing the kid a bone type of thing, but I still can’t help but get annoyed.
Don’t like or understand Mullins as KR1 either. That better not last.
We obviously aren’t getting a Moody like performance this season, but we should have known that coming in. The key it to not need a Moody like performance this season.
September 2nd, 2023 at 11:33 PM ^
I don’t get the coaches’ obsession with Mullings. Aside from that one gadget duck pass against Ohio, Mullings has looked consistently ineffectual as an offensive player. I can’t think of one memorable run. Except for the bad ones.
September 3rd, 2023 at 1:08 PM ^
it’s a good thing your memories don’t even slightly relate to his kickoff returns then.
September 3rd, 2023 at 1:06 AM ^
And then Ronnie Bell suffers season-ending ACL against Colorado State returning a punt and we're all like, " GAR DUM COACHS PUTTING STARTING WR ON PUNT RETURN!!!"
September 3rd, 2023 at 1:07 PM ^
It’s nonsense and a smack in the face to the importance of special teams.
stop it. there’s absolutely zero reason to think we don’t think special teams are important. on the contrary. the excellence in special teams is a years-long success story that started before moody and robbins showed up. and you have no idea if this was the right approach, week one. maybe he looked more comfortable. maybe whoever you want muffed one a week in practice. you don’t know. and you’re basing this on…what? three punt returns against a tomato can?
Don’t like or understand Mullins as KR1 either. That better not last.
it “better not last?” or…what? lol.
September 4th, 2023 at 5:07 AM ^
”maybe whoever you want… and you’re basing this on what?”
Oh, I don’t know? Is it too much to ask for someone who’s in the freaking four deep at a skill position to be put into that role? Desmond Howard. Charles Woodson. Jabrill Peppers. Jake Thaw.
What a strange response, btw. Weird.
September 4th, 2023 at 11:09 AM ^
not sure what that quote is supposed to prove, or how your response refutes it, or for that matter, directly responds to it.
you want someone else, that’s fine. whatever. you’re still basing your opinion on very little actual data.
and yeah - it would be great to find someone equal to the three greatest returners of the last 45 years on this roster, wouldn’t it? maybe we could find them by sheer force of will.
September 2nd, 2023 at 10:30 PM ^
Need a better punt returner than Jake Thaw.
September 2nd, 2023 at 11:30 PM ^
Missed an xp and nearly missed a 2nd one. Not a good sign for a kicker.
September 3rd, 2023 at 1:09 PM ^
+1 insightful.