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Detnews article on instate recruiting

Some great quotes.

"I've never seen anything like this," Lemming said. "These kids are committing to U-M without seeing other schools. U-M is everywhere."

"Michigan State ran into a Michigan buzz saw."



From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20110519/SPORTS0201/105190355/U-M-football-winning-the-instate-recruiting-race#ixzz1Mnm6cM8F

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May 19th, 2011 at 8:55 AM | love these quotes (Score:2 Normal)
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Now we only need ONE more thing to happen and the circle will be complete.

And we all know what that is. Come the ides of October, the heralds will sing a different tune entirely.

/ F Sparta. Athens RULES

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May 19th, 2011 at 9:02 AM | Take your seat, little (Score:4 Normal)
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Take your seat, little brother.

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May 19th, 2011 at 8:57 AM | It really, really is more fun (Score:2 Normal)
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It really, really is more fun being an M fan this year.  I was pretty sick of hearing about William Gholston and Lawrence Thomas the past couple years. 

I'm still curious how State's "national recruiting" is going to pan out.

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May 19th, 2011 at 9:22 AM | Frankly, it had to happen (Score:2)
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Frankly, it had to happen eventually.  Now order is being restored to the universe.

Not that I loved Rich Rod less, but that I loved Michigan more.

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May 19th, 2011 at 11:10 AM | Order, indeed (Score:1 Normal)
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I see this is regression to the mean.  Football is easier to trace, because MSU has had so little success.  The last time MSU has been successful for any great period of time was when they were building de facto SEC teams before integration.  Since the late 1960's, MSU has been an example of extended mediocrity with flashes of competence.  Their latest "flash" is just about over.

If you take long term results in basketball, a very good argument can be made that Tom Izzo's performance at MSU has been an aberration, too.  It's just lasted longer than most aberrations do because it has taken so long for Michigan to dig out of the Ed Martin hole.   Hopefully, Michigan will soon return to its status as THE destination school for talented instate basketball players, and MSU will return to its customary position: second-best.

 

 

 

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May 19th, 2011 at 11:54 AM | 3 times??! (Score:1)
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We beat them 6 times in a row before they bested us thrice.  Looking forward to 6 in a row once again for Michigan.  Hell, make it 9!

"Bend over and I'll show you."  Perfect answer to nearly any question.

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May 19th, 2011 at 1:12 PM | hopefully there are no penn (Score:3 Normal)
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hopefully there are no penn state fans on this blog; they do NOT appreciate the mention of 9 game michigan winning streaks.

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May 19th, 2011 at 2:35 PM | my brother is a Penn State fan (Score:2)
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he certainly did not appreciate it

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May 19th, 2011 at 9:30 AM | Forget Samson, Mattison's got (Score:2)
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Forget Samson, Mattison's got the whole town [state] on lockdown.

/half-baked

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May 19th, 2011 at 10:25 AM | posted from iPhone (Score:5 Normal)
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State doesn't have national recruiting. Most of the country thinks MSU means Mississippi State or Missouri State

Despite what the other guy calls himself, my name actually is Magnus.

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May 19th, 2011 at 1:47 PM | I would say they should (Score:1)
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I would say they should recruit better nationally this year (at least in terms of outside of Michigan) simply because many of the top-rated kids in Michigan are already taken. It will definitely force them to go outside of the state more than usual, or to take kids in Michigan that are not rated as high. I agree with the general sentiment that they will always have a hard time recruiting "nationally" though, just thought I would give a different look on the situation.

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May 19th, 2011 at 9:02 AM | Work left to do (Score:4 Normal)
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He makes a good point, though, that we still have some work to do out-of-state to make this a great class. We've virtually drained MI of all of its assets, and with the core established, it's time to go to the next level.

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May 19th, 2011 at 9:08 AM | Mr. Dantonioni: can you say (Score:4 Normal)
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ouch? Just give us an ouch. Fess up. We have mussed your perm. We haz fried your grits. 'Scape now while you can, like Mr. Nicky did.

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May 19th, 2011 at 9:34 AM | Not trying to be a dick, (Score:-1 Normal)
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but I really don't get why someone marked this post "Trolling".  Not that it matters, just wondering.

"I promise you we would have walked to the University of Michigan."  - Brady Hoke

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May 19th, 2011 at 9:16 AM | My favorite part of this in (Score:1)
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My favorite part of this in state recruiting dominance is how all of a sudden the in-state talent is just not good this year.  Ross is too short, Richardson is too short, there's no 5 star, blah, blah, blah.  I've been enjoying a lot of shadenfreude the last few months, as well as some ridiculous after the fact justifications.

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May 19th, 2011 at 10:47 AM | ross isn't a 5 star b/c of (Score:5 Normal)
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ross isn't a 5 star b/c of his height.  these services use 5 stars to denote high likelihood of being a first round pick.  ross will be like jarett irons.  he may not be an nfl star, but you'll be hearing his name a lot followed by "on the tackle."

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May 19th, 2011 at 12:30 PM | No offense to mr. richardson, (Score:3 Normal)
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No offense to mr. richardson, but I'll believe it when I see it. We haven't had the best of luck with cass tech prospects it seems

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May 19th, 2011 at 9:20 AM | Question (Score:1)
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Last season everyone was talking about this year's prospects in the state of Michigan being very good (best in a long time).  Is this still true?  In other words, I'm wondering whether Michigan getting the top kids from Michigan is even more impressive this year than it would be in normal years . . .

 

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May 19th, 2011 at 9:22 AM | Satisfied (Score:5 Normal)
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Today's paper should come with a pack of cigarettes. That article was very satisfying.

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May 19th, 2011 at 9:23 AM | Take that Dantonio! (Score:5 Normal)
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May 19th, 2011 at 9:36 AM | I think the whole recruiting (Score:2 Normal)
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I think the whole recruiting Michigan thing is awesome....When you watch the games and it lists the starting line-ups almost every school has their main core of bodies recruited from their respective state....But Michigan was always a scattered bunch from around the country..Now saying that, i think it is impressive to steal a kid from the west coast or some other state that is a blue chip type player and sell them on Michigan....but I love to see the recruits from the state of michigan stay in Michigan...I guess my love for Michigan football is ovewhelming but if i was from michigan and held a scholarship to UofM, I would not even think about bolting to Alabama, Tennessee, Notre Dame, USC....Cheers To the best State in the Country!!!!!!

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May 19th, 2011 at 9:38 AM | Texting one of my Sparty (Score:3 Normal)
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Texting one of my Sparty friends and told him "we picked up another 4-star in-state.  That's 8 UM commits with MSU offers.  0 MSU kids with UM offers."

His response was "Let's see how many of them actually sign in February."

This is the type of retort we are getting from Sparty?   Wow - you can almost see him with his head down, staring at his phone, thinking for a few minutes of what to say before half-heartedly typing his response.

 

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May 19th, 2011 at 9:42 AM | Sparty No! (Score:1 Normal)
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Comeback fail.  Love it!

Its great, to be, a Michigan Wolverine!

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May 19th, 2011 at 9:47 AM | Response: "Probably around 9, (Score:5 Normal)
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Response: "Probably around 9, Burbridge is still on the way"

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May 19th, 2011 at 10:12 AM | black knight (Score:5 Normal)
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Seems Sparty is in the Black Knight  "No it's just a flesh wound!!" defense. Ha!

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May 19th, 2011 at 10:23 AM | YEAH? (Score:5 Normal)
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YEAH WELL MY DAD CAN BEAT UP YOUR DAD 

Recruit Files: Robert Foster

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May 19th, 2011 at 10:29 AM | "Little Brother, you are such (Score:5 Normal)
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"Little Brother, you are such a dumbass, we have the same Dad"  "Now, go make me a milkshake"

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May 19th, 2011 at 10:35 AM | So you're that guy, huh? (Score:5 Normal)
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So you're that guy, huh?

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May 19th, 2011 at 10:51 AM | I think my favorite quote (Score:2 Normal)
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was when they said, The one instate commitment for Michigan State, Riley Bullough from Traverse City St. Francis, was not offered a scholarship by Hoke and Michigan."

 

Seriously, you win the big ten championship and you can't get one freaking instate recruit from the clutches of Michigan?   Epic Fail. Muahahaha.

Those who stay will be champions.

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May 19th, 2011 at 11:36 AM | While I think it's awesome (Score:5 Normal)
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While I think it's awesome that we're beating MSU for these recruits - and I'd be a little nervous about this if I were a Spartan - talking trash about recruiting is pretty lame.

MSU has bragging rights in football right now.  It sucks, but that's how it goes until next season.

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May 19th, 2011 at 2:01 PM | It's not talking trash.  We (Score:2)
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It's not talking trash.  We actually talk about recruiting a lot and give props to good pick-ups on each side.

There is no "in your face" b.s.

If anything, his response to my fact-laden text was a bit out of character.

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May 19th, 2011 at 11:55 AM | Typical Sparty response (Score:0 Redundant)
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I checked out RCMB to see the meltdown, and they are producing such gems as:

"... the 20th best player in Ohio is as good as the 4/5the best in Michigan this year..."

"...scum is using firesale tactics to get kids..."

Or, the most ludicrous of all:

"The offer to Richardson was strictly for relationship purposes..."

They are making excuses and contradicting themselves at a rate that is amazing, even for Sparty.  The gist seems to be that if Michigan "wins" the recruiting battles, they didn't really win, and that Sparty's one shared Big Ten Championship during the Dantonio "era" is the be-all and end-all of college football.

There are a lot of games that scare me this year, but MSU is one game I am sure is going to work out in Michigan's favor.  The RCMB meltdown should be epic.  It might even be enough to stop their owner from begging people to "try the 7-day trial" for 247.

 

 

 

 

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May 19th, 2011 at 11:58 AM | My favourite Sparty line is (Score:2 Normal)
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My favourite Sparty line is that they are a "national recruiter" now.

Number of commits they have: 4

Number of commits from outside of Michigan and Ohio: 0

Combined number of offers those commits hold from Michigan, ND and OSU: 0

Right. "National Recruiter"....

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May 19th, 2011 at 12:29 PM | In all fairness they never (Score:5 Normal)
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In all fairness they never said they were GOOD at it......

 

 

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May 25th, 2011 at 11:45 AM | How about this for a retort? (Score:-1 Flamebait)
Token_sparty
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We actually teach our players to play well- which is why we have kicked your tail the last three years.  Crow about recruiting all you want- those 4- and 5-star recruits got posterized by walk-on Blair White for three years running.  Want to trade QBs?  I love Denard Robinson, don't get me wrong, but pretty much nobody recruited Kirk Cousins, and I wouldn't swap them in a heartbeat.  You guys keep harping on the 'Sparty Noooo' theme in recruiting, and we'll keep actually teaching our guys how to play.  By the way, I'm still laughing at 5-star Will Campbell- how's that working out for you, LOL.

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May 25th, 2011 at 12:03 PM | Wrong (Score:2 Normal)
dahblue
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We actually teach our players to play well- which is why we have kicked your tail the last three years.

Wrong.  State beats us the last three years because we made a large mistake in hiring a head coach who, despite his best efforts, was not the right fit.  Hopefully, the last three years provided enough Spartan joy to last a lifetime, cause the run is over.  I'm sure it must sting though...you have you best year in ages and still can't interest any top recruits in giving a shit about your program.  You can't even keep your Farmington kids anymore.  If that's what happens after a good season; imagine what'll happen after you play a varsity schedule this year.  

p.s. Will Campbell is a junior.  He's not done.

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May 19th, 2011 at 9:44 AM | "You got the man in there, (Score:3 Normal)
nikj
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"You got the man in there, (defensive coordinator) Greg Mattison. He's the reason why they're doing so well. Kids don't think about things we did. They talk about relationships and going pro. A lot of people want to play for Mattison because of his NFL (Ravens) connection."

Sparty's NFL "connections" (ie. plaxico, Charles Rodgers, Greg jones) just not gettin' it done.

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May 19th, 2011 at 9:46 AM | amazing (Score:4 Normal)
MichLove
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It is amazing how quickly a feel around a program can change with one move. This staff has cleaned up so far on the trail and put a whole new faith in the program. I am more excited for the start of this year then I have been in a while and I don't think I am the only one who feels this way.

Keep up the great work Hoke and Co. and of course, GO BLUE

go blue!

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May 19th, 2011 at 10:01 AM | Reason to gloat (Score:5 Normal)
Will Vereene
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"I was gone before that guy wrecked the place, but it still disappoints"

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May 19th, 2011 at 10:06 AM | This is amazing. I also love (Score:2)
Magnum P.I.
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This is amazing. I also love your avatar. I'll be keeping an eye out for you.

"There was a time I could have been mistaken for Burt Reynolds. I had a moustache and so did he. But he was the number one star in the world, so there wasn't really much confusion."

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May 19th, 2011 at 10:51 AM | I watched this about 7 times. (Score:1)
mgopoo
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I watched this about 7 times. Q: What happens at 0:04? Is that a butt or a mouse?

Everywhere you go, go poo.

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May 19th, 2011 at 11:48 AM | I'll let you decide (Score:2 Funny)
Will Vereene
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"I was gone before that guy wrecked the place, but it still disappoints"

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May 19th, 2011 at 11:50 AM | May just be me but looks like (Score:5 Normal)
Lets_Go_Blue
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May just be me but looks like boobs.  Then again I think everything looks like boobs...

Football is both an identity and a terminal illness. A rhythm and a chaos and an opiate for the mind all at once.

     -Johnny Danbury (umichedme.blogspot.com)

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May 19th, 2011 at 12:06 PM | Waitress? (Score:2 Normal)
MikeUM85
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It could be that I've been working too hard this week, but it appears to be a busty waitress serving up a delicious milkshake. 

 

“The strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.” Rudyard Kipling (1865-1936)

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May 19th, 2011 at 3:13 PM | Little Bother? (Score:2 Funny)
M-Wolverine
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Can't tell if that's a typo or intentional...

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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May 19th, 2011 at 10:03 AM | Hail. (Score:2 Normal)
BlueDragon
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Hail.

Abort, Retry, Fail?

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May 19th, 2011 at 10:05 AM | (Score:1)
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Go Blue Or Die as RJS says

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May 19th, 2011 at 10:07 AM | Just hoping (Score:-1 Overrated)
MGoCooper
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This translates to the field! Don't get me wrong, players with the talent and character that these kids have, it can't help but not translate. All the same, I can't stomach any more consecutive losses to Sparty or the Suckeyes.

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May 19th, 2011 at 10:34 AM | good point (Score:3 Normal)
michgoblue
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This is a great point.  These recruits - who do not arrive until after the 2011 season, are really going to help us in 2014, 2015 and 2016 when they are in their 3rd, 4th and 5th years.  But, none will be here in 2011 and only a few will play in 2012 or 2013.

As you pointed out, our recruiting (combined with some attrition) over the past few years still puts MSU in a strong position against us this coming year. 

That said, I think that we will still field a team that will have too much talent and experience at key positions for MSU to beat us.  Just about our entire offense will be back, and I personally think that Denard, running some sort of hybrid pro-style / spread / shotgun / wildcat / power I will be just about impossible to stop, except for perhaps the most elite defenses (Nebraska and OSU will still scare me).  As for our D, we will not be perfact, but our players will be far better coached in thing like, um, tackling, covering, angles, not lookin confused and playing football.  We will also not field any true freshmen, which will make a huge difference, nor will we be running the insanely-stupid 3-3-5. 

Basically, what I am saying is that I totally agree with your point that this recruiting dominance is a long-term reason for excitement, but it will not help us come October 2011.  However, I still think that even with Sparty's brief recruiting dominance over us, we are going to stomp them this year. 

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May 19th, 2011 at 10:51 AM | While you're right that these (Score:3 Normal)
dahblue
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While you're right that these kids won't be on the field immediately, your comment about "Sparyt's recruiting dominance over us" is off the mark.  During the RR years, MSU was roughly even with us in-state, but out-of-state we were much stronger.  Our overall class rankings were much higher.  It certainly hurt that many of our highest rated recruits didn't last very long (i.e. McGuffie, BooBoo, Turner), but no way did State "dominate" us in recruiting.  What we're seeing now is "domination"...and maybe some word more "dominant" than that given Sparty is coming off a very good year and can't even convince the FHH kids to join the Warden.

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