Use steroids and other illegal substances, miss no games!
I'm sure it is probably true that many, if not most, players use some sort of illegal substance, but are there many cases of players testing positive and receiving no penalties? The only one I can recall is Richard Sherman a couple years back. He won his appeal because of the way his positive sample was held and processed prior to the positive test result.
This is just a giant PR move by the NFL to appease the haters. They have no evidence that Brady knew.
It helps the NFL a lot that the Patriots are viewed as villians already.
If Aaron Rodgers or Russell Wilson were doing the same thing there's not a chance their punishments would even be half of what the Pats just got
are scandalous texts back and forth about ball inflation. It was probably a verbal conversation years ago to the ball inflator person that he likes them a certain way....
I wouldn't allow the league to see every private text of mine either. Come on.
I don't really see an upside to Brady handing over his phone to anyone.
I don't have anything close to his money or professional accomplishments, and I would almost certainly refuse to hand over my phone or personal computer to my employer. If I knew termination wasn't an option I can't imagine a scenario where I would.
let them look at your phone, even though you've got nothing to hide, you'd just do it? Do you know what country Tom Brady lives in?
pay me 500,000 a game, and I dont have anything to hide. Sure. Pay me more when you find me clean.
I not handing it over ever. You assume that no one will ever see anything not related to the investigation but that's not ensurable. There is no court order involved, there is no protection, its pretty simple. And you have to hand your phone over to someone in the first place and get it dumped. Then someone else has to sort through it all and determine what is relavent or not. And both those people and numerous others would likely be able to make a copy (whether legally OR NOT). I'm pretty sure a tabloid would pay a pretty hefty penny for a dump of Brady's phone for instance...
Also, with the amount of information that was leaked during the investigation by the NFL, I would be absolutely shocked if they stuck to their "anything not relevant to the investigation can not be used against him or released."
You're not famous, but if you were, would you want to hand your cell phone over to anyone? You have a famous wife, you have children, you have your e-mail and possibly finaicial information on your phone. You would hand your phone over to someone to search it?
I don't even let my mom look at my phone.
Would you let your work go through your phone?
Cannot be used against you for what?
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if you ever and I mean EVER get in even the slightest bit of trouble for anything, even if you think you had nothing to do with it, I pray you talk to a lawyer very very quickly or you are going to be screwed to high heaven. You are like a pig being led to slaughter.
Is what is wrong in our society. He doesn't have to turn over his personal phone, nor should he. End of story.
EXACTLY
He doesn't want to hand over his phone because it's his own damn phone. If your boss asked you to hand over your personal phone because he wanted to make sure you didn't have something on it, would you? I sure as hell wouldn't. This isn't a "if he didn't do anything wrong he wouldn't care?" situation. How about the next time Goddell gets called before a judiciary or congressional panel, they ask for his personal phone or computer because they want to see if he talked about CTE, spousal abuse, gamlbing, etc.? I'm guessing that isn't happening.
This is a myopic comment that highlights just how dumb this whole situation is.
If this was a legal matter with subpeona power, they could go to the phone provider and as for records of texts sent; they might not get the content of the text, but they definitely would have records of when they were sent. Compare that to what's on the phones and you'd have an idea if they were deleted. And, of course, the NSA has a couple copies in Utah. :-)
But yeah, if he had specific texts and deleted them they wouldn't be able to see them, but honestly, I don't blame Brady for not wanting to share regardless. He's a famous person with many famous friends who value their privacy, and you are being asked by one of the more incompetently-run billion-dollar entities in the world to hand over a phone so that they can "investigate" whether or not some butthurt opponents were right that you underinflated your football a bit. There is near-100% certainty stuff other than the text messages between those two guys get leaked.
Maybe he's got pics of Giselle sexting him that he doesn't want some stupid NFL lawyer to look at. And if the NFL is serious, they could get a subpoena and get the texts.
It's the NFL...stepping on their dic*s as usual. Keeps our minds off of more important matters like CTE, domestic violence and child abuse.
I think Brady is going to one pissed off player come this fall.
Does the NFL really think this is going to make them look "tough on crime"?
I'm ready to just stop watching that whole league. What an abomination.
When a topic gets >100 replies maybe, just maybe, it deserved its own thread.
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Isn't the fine for this action spelled out in the rules as 25k? How can they justify any penalty more than that let alone one as ridiculous as this?
There is no way this holds up. This is the NFL using deflategate as a smoke screen. The NFLPA will do whatever they do and get this thrown out by July.
So if he would have beat Gisele's ass his suspension would have been lighter right?
He came, he saw, he cheated, he got caught, he lied about it. For the Pats, it's a repeat offense.
Just because he played for Michigan years ago and/or he happens to be good doesn't make put him above the rules.
I have no tolerance for "If you're rich or famous the rules don't apply to you."
This is little different from the Lance Armstrong story, except that he got away with it for years. Then again, who's to say how long the Pats have been doing this?
If Tom Brady had been using an elaborate concoction of chemicals to bond together a football while also using an inordinate number of banned substances to enhance this body to have a superior throwing motion, then the Lance Armstrong comparison works. This is like if Lance Armstrong under-inflated his tires to a slightly lower-than-acceptable range because it helped him grip the road better.
People around here aren't defending Tom Brady because he went to Michigan; they are decrying the stupidity of the NFL and this dumb-ass rule that is going to punish a player nearly as heavily as players who have committed far more heinous crimes. For perspective, if you are caught using HGH or a similar performance enhancement you get the same punishment, and your team doesn't get a single fine.