De'Veon Smith says Wheatley and being "taught properly" have helped him improve.

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FromDetroit News:

Smith appeared Monday night on the "Inside Michigan Football" weekly radio show with host Jim Brandstatter. Brandstatter asked Smith how much he has worked on pass protection.

"I guess until this year I wasn't really taught properly how to pass protect and what are my keys exactly," Smith said. "And (running backs) coach (Tyrone) Wheatley is instilling that into in all the running backs."

We all love Fred Jackson, for good reasons. And maybe there's more to this comment than appears, but still, interesting comment because besides the improved offensive line protection subjectively speaking it does seem that we've had fewer blown blocks by RB's this year

 

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/201…

 

PopeLando

November 10th, 2015 at 3:43 PM ^

I've said this before: even watching that multiple times from multiple angles, sometimes in slo-mo, knowiny exactly where he enters the pile and exactly where and when he'll emerge, I have serious problems tracking him through that run. Amazing. Teleport is right. Imagine seeing it at field level, full speed, while being blocked by an offensive lineman. Poor linebackers never stood a chance...

maizenbluenc

November 10th, 2015 at 10:28 AM ^

Fred Jackson coached him a lot on pass blocking. (And Vince was awesome at it.)

Also, I read somewhere that De'Veon said he gets 8 minutes attending the OL meetings that other RBs don't get because they are in the Special Teams meeting.

I am wondering if it was a limited time focus thing.Was De'Veon on special teams last year?

LJ

November 10th, 2015 at 9:31 AM ^

It's obvious that this staff is significantly better than the last, but these sorts of quotes are so ubiquitous in every coaching transition that they are not all that meaningful, in my view.

Remember when Gardner said Borges never taught him how to identify the MIKE and Nuss had now taught him, and everything was going to be fixed on offense?  Yeah.

ST3

November 10th, 2015 at 11:26 AM ^

I think a contributing factor to the sack numbers being reduced this year is improved blocking at the center position. Miller was a good center, but I remember him getting driven back a good 5 yards on more than one occasion. QBs are taught to step forward in the pocket to avoid the rush from the outside. Gardner could not do this because Miller was getting driven back so far. Glasgow maintains the center of the pocket better than Miller did.

MGoViso

November 10th, 2015 at 9:54 AM ^

Agreed, came to this thread to say the same thing. I think you would hear this type of quote during any coaching transition, as guys buy in to a staff's teaching style, terminology, areas of focus, etc.

I don't blame De'Veon for feeling this way and speaking his mind, but probably over the course of his career (hopefully/probably in the NFL as well as after that) he will figure out that sometimes you click with a coach/manager/teacher, and sometimes you don't. It doesn't necessarily say too much about either person.

maizenbluenc

November 10th, 2015 at 10:36 AM ^

with sleds comments when Hoke came in, yet Count Down to Kickoff videos showed them using sleds. Maybe it wasn't enough of the right kind or something.

I tend to think there is limited time to coach, and each staff has particular points of emphasis for each player based on how they are fitting the puzzel together and what their overall scheme is.

That said, it is great the De'Veon has progressed in this area that has really been a gap since Mr. Smith moved on to community awesomeness.

Ronnie Kaye

November 16th, 2015 at 8:25 AM ^

Like you just did? Your Google comment represents a complete misunderstanding of what I was saying about night games. You weren't even making the the ill-conceived retorts in that thread, now you are just piggy-backing off of them. Can't even give you credit for being a standard issue MGoDolt; you are merely a follower of such.

Ronnie Kaye

November 16th, 2015 at 1:47 PM ^

Sorry, I'm not as obsessed with my replies as you are and don't check them as often. 

"Internet Tough Guy"? How is your lame cat-calling in this example somehow not an example of that? And I'm probably the last guy on this forum who gives a shit what people here "buy."

McSomething

November 16th, 2015 at 3:52 PM ^

Oh how well you know me. I'm sure you can tell what I spend my time on in a day down the the minute. And it's funny how before you talked about getting "intellectually weak" responses back, when now you're going with the childish "slightly change their name to an insult" route. Hypocrisy is a fun thing.

Rabbit21

November 10th, 2015 at 10:30 AM ^

Great point, but something was clearly off the past few years(Rawls does nothing at UM, suddenly an NFL contributor, Toussaint going to Baltimore and getting praised for his pass blocking when it was such a weakness here, Mike Cox suddenly becoming effective enough to get drafted and earn playing time) and there was one common thread through all of it.

That said, Fred Jackson was the one member of the staff beating the drum for Drake Johnson and I shudder to think what the situation would look like right now without him.

PopeLando

November 10th, 2015 at 3:50 PM ^

Running backs are fickle beasts. It seems to me that RB is the most 'it clicks or it doesn't' position. OL, scheme, and internal development all make a huge difference. The guys you mentioned might have received better coaching where they ended up (I mean, they undoubtedly did, but it's unclear that that's why they succeeded), or maybe they just got lucky that they landed in the right place at the right time.

Mr. Yost

November 10th, 2015 at 9:50 AM ^

I've said this for 5 years...it was absolutely ridiculous the last two.

I will never forget in one of the spring practice videos when Jackson was "getting on" a couple of the RBs and they looked at each other like with a slight laugh and a "ha, get the fuck outta here" look --- not disrespectfully, but in the, this dude must be crazy if he thinks I'm listening to him right now look.

He was completely out of touch and no one took him seriously. As a coach, I wasn't impressed whatsoever...you can only get by for so long telling stories of the glory days...at some point you have to update your teaching methods and out work your counterparts.

Sure Jackson taught Wheatley, but it's not like Wheatley is just spewing Jackson's old rhetoric...he's clearly developed his own coaching style, he's learned for other coaches, he's modernized his approach.

Our RBs are night and day better than they have been in the past. Now when they make mistakes, it's a lot clearer that they made a mistake and it wasn't a coaching error.

Yes, the OL is better (due to better coaching), but I'm not talking about production. I'm talking about our RBs knowing what bltzer to pick up, what hole to hit, knowing how to chip a DE and fall into the flat (which Rudock loves). Knowing how to read ZONE coverage - my GOD what an improvement here...how many times has Smith found a hole in a zone and Rudock hit him for a 5 yard gain rather than an incompletion?

Those things are coaching...that has nothing to do with skill. Hell, I can find a hole in a zone if you teach me what to look for and where to go. I may not catch the ball or do anything after the catch, because I'm not a D1 scholarship athlete...but I'd be in the right spot - that's a good coach.

ijohnb

November 10th, 2015 at 10:33 AM ^

can be very misleading.  This staff has dialed up effective runs all season long at crucial times in terms of down and distance, the use of the fullback has been a stroke of brilliance, and we are getting players to edge with screens and end arounds on a routine basis.  Yeah, we don't line up and truck people, but I think you would be hard pressed to argue that the "running game" as a whole has not been upgraded from last year in terms of effectiveness.