DB Coach?

Submitted by Logan on

Now that his season is over, who thinks Brady's brother, Jon, will give us a look? Even with Mattison, I think it's important we have someone in place to get commits from McClure and Raven (and Countess' confirmation for that matter). Who are the other candidates?

Magnus

January 23rd, 2011 at 7:09 PM ^

Well, if there's anything we've learned over the past several years at Michigan, it's that every job is safe.  Just ask Ron English, Erik Campbell, Scott Shafer, Jay Hopson, Rich Rodriguez, Tony Gibson, Bruce Tall, Greg Robinson, Greg Frey, Tony Dews, Calvin Magee, Rod Smith, and Adam Braithwaite.

Magnus

January 23rd, 2011 at 7:37 PM ^

Every staff at every school is subject to review at the end of each season (or in the middle of it).  There are very few exceptions, save maybe Joe Paterno and some other great coaches.

Scott Shafer was fired after one season.

Jay Hopson was fired after two.

Everyone else was fired after three.

jayman065

January 23rd, 2011 at 7:46 PM ^

I agree with everything you said, however; barring an absolute disater Hoke will not be fired in less than three years. It would be an unlikely scenerio that would result in him firing his brother quickly.

I think this is a unique situation - one  that would provide some security for a DB position coach.  No matter the product after the first year, we should see improvment (maybe jjust becuase of player development / maturing).  However, Hoke will get at least three years at head coach.... if he can convince his brother to come over, i have a hard time believing that he would quickly get the axe, just my opninion.

MichiganStudent

January 23rd, 2011 at 7:50 PM ^

While I agree with you, i also think that his brother really does not want to come back to college. It is known (at least I think it is) that he does not like to recruit or that side of the job. 

When I look at "the other Hoke" I think that he is much more comfortable coaching professionals and refining their trade, rather than turning a raw prospect into a serviceable player. I could be wrong, but I think some coaches prefer college over pro's, as well as vice versa. 

Tater

January 23rd, 2011 at 8:30 PM ^

Hoke gets the "Michigan Man exemption:" five years to win nine games.  If DB stays that long instead of staying just long enough to build a resume as a "man of action" and subsequently leaving to pursue his politial ambitions, there is no way he will admit he was wrong with this hire. 

That's why I hope he really does well; I don't want to be stuck cheering for a shitty team for the next five years, and I've been a Michigan fan way too long to jump ship.  If Hoke doesn't get the job done, we're all pretty much fucked.

burtcomma

January 23rd, 2011 at 11:45 PM ^

RR did not bring us back to where we wanted to be, and now should Hoke not get the job done we are headed for the boonies for another 3-5 years.

Sure hope Hoke and Mattison and rest get us back to contending for Big 10 championships at the very least.  All we can do now is wait and see!

Blue in Yarmouth

January 24th, 2011 at 8:49 AM ^

you may very well be right, but this is exactly the reason I DON'T want Hoke #2 as the DB coach. The last thing UM needs is the HC's brother to be coaching the Db's (probably the position that needs the most coaching and development at this point). As you stated, they are family and he is likely to get a free pass regardless of how well he does simply because he is his brother.

I can only base this off the relationship I have with my brother (which obviously doesn't correlate 100% to the Hoke's), but I would have a very hard time firing my brother regardless of the job he did. I don't think this is a situation we would want to put our head coach in, but that is just my opinion...

In reply to by King Douche Ornery

Magnus

January 23rd, 2011 at 9:38 PM ^

No, that's not my point at all.  My point (in response to an above poster) is that coaches get fired all the time.  Part of being a coach at the college/NFL level is not knowing if you'll have a job next year.  Those guys I mentioned were all fired in a short amount of time compared people in most careers, and just like Jon Hoke might be concerned about getting fired from the Bears, he wouldn't be safe from getting fired from Michigan, either.

bronxblue

January 23rd, 2011 at 7:10 PM ^

I'd be surprised if UM didn't get an established DB coach.  Maybe Jay Hoke, but it sounds like he's not interested.  Brown would be huge, but however they go they'll need to grab a guy with some experience and (hopefully) a little youngish.

blueapple

January 23rd, 2011 at 8:51 PM ^

I am not sure we can find a better D line coach than Mattison or Hoke, I know Hoke probably won't coach a position and Mattison has to game plan.  Maybe Brian is right, all we need is a guy to really recruit. 

Does it seem like we lack a top offensive recruiter.  I look at Loeffler and I don't know if he was a good coach, but he seem to have a rep for working with QB's.  I remember an interview which Tebow said he visited and thought about Michigan because of Loeffler.  It seems we need someone like that for the O.  I have no idea about Funk or Ferrigno and I think Brian mentioned that Borges doesn't really recruit.  I know we should have a balance in coaches but interested in knowing what others think.

GustaveFerbert

January 23rd, 2011 at 7:52 PM ^

coaching at a smaller school in Ohio or other MAC territory that knows high school coaches and will help with recruiting etc....

Nothing wrong with having some diversity in age and others aspects on the staff. 

OUMICHFAN

January 23rd, 2011 at 9:56 PM ^

Ty Law? He played in the NFL for 15 years. He has three Super Bowl Rings and played on some great defenses during his career. He, Mattison, and Hoke could sure up this lousy defense in a hurry and put a scare into the conference. 

MichLove

January 24th, 2011 at 10:13 AM ^

I would be extremely surprised if Ty Law is even being considered. I don't think he has any coaching experience (i know he works with some NFL corners so I'm not counting that) and it would shock me if they hired someone with no coaching experience to take the job.

MichLove

January 24th, 2011 at 1:29 PM ^

I am hoping for Terryl Austin or Corwin Brown - although I don't believe we should expect either of these* guys to get the job as I feel they would have been announced already if they were taking the job. 

I think either one of these guys would be another great hire by Hoke. Keeping my fingers crossed that I am wrong and one of them are announced in the next couple of days!