August 13th, 2019 at 3:33 PM ^
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nice try - but we have all seen your locker room
August 13th, 2019 at 3:37 PM ^
Yeah, OSU players literally just talked at media day about how everyday they have to do something to prepare for Michigan...including things like 100 plus pushups...because we aren't rivals.
Anyways, we should thank them for these words which could help keep our focus and intensity if we needed any.
August 13th, 2019 at 3:42 PM ^
In all seriousness, this type of disrespect for the rivalry could threaten his scholarship status. They live, eat, sleep, and breathe this rivalry 365 days a year - foolish comments like this are just what we need to get a chink in their armor.
I do love that he guarantees that they will win ‘for the rest of this decade’. A new decade starts in 2020, the year that he arrives. Perhaps he will be prophetic after all; it certainly appears that he will fit in with the academic culture there.
August 13th, 2019 at 3:45 PM ^
He is not saying this on his own, this talk is coming from someone above.
August 13th, 2019 at 5:03 PM ^
No religion
August 13th, 2019 at 8:59 PM ^
True, wildback & Indy Pete. He only said that because:
- Kids say stoopid things
- He hasn't entered the environment yet.
Besides, it's common for kids to say crap, especially when they haven't entered the arena yet. I remember hearing Brandon Smith talk to Sam Webb on signing day saying how the rivalry is about to turn. And Kyle Kalis: "There will be blood."
If the kid truly believes it's not a rivalry, he's in for a rewiring when he gets to experience a taste of it.
August 13th, 2019 at 10:39 PM ^
Where was all this talk years ago when we were 10 -2-1 against them, no one said it back then that the rivalry was dead. Mike Valenti spits this shit out like MSU is more OSU's rival then we are.
August 13th, 2019 at 11:09 PM ^
Watch the video of Urban addressing this year’s team. All but goes off on the new enrollees telling them they haven’t done shit and he better never hear them talk negative about the rivalry. Ever. They better respect the rivalry and Michigan. They have excellent player and coaches and the way you respect the rivalry is to work on it every day. These are two high school seniors talking up their new school. Freshman get humbled quickly and they will get the same speech next spring.
August 13th, 2019 at 3:34 PM ^
I see what they’re doing and haha you OSU folks are clever but...it will always be a rivalry youngin’
August 13th, 2019 at 5:52 PM ^
True though I, for one, would not mind if they paid less attention to the game for a change
August 13th, 2019 at 7:44 PM ^
Just went over to the O-Zone and their fans are somewhat pissed. Some are saying that Urban needs to sit down with this kid and explain the rivalry to him. In all fairness, he's just a recruit who hasn't signed yet. You can bet once his name is on the dotted line someone will sit down and tell him to shut his mouth.
August 13th, 2019 at 3:34 PM ^
Pride. Fall. Something something.
August 13th, 2019 at 3:35 PM ^
I don't care what this loser recruit has to say
August 13th, 2019 at 3:45 PM ^
It’s a bigger problem then just one loser recruit. I have a cousin who’s a big Michigan fan born in 2000. Obviously was too young to see the 2003 game so the only win he’s seen is the 2011 game against Adam Sandler. He’s a sophomore in college for God’s sake. This is a huge recruiting disadvantage that we have to fix and the only way to do that is beat them.
August 13th, 2019 at 5:07 PM ^
It's amazed me for several years now that the OSU coaching staff is able to keep these kids so focused on UM. If I was an OSU player I'd think exactly like this recruit does and I'd probably roll my eyes at the coaches for being so focused on UM. I'd think it was phony enthusiasm. Meyer was obviously a master at manipulating these kids to have a crazed focus on UM, but he grew up with the 10 year war and coached for OSU when it was a competitive rivalry. So at least it was genuine for Meyer. As an outsider to both programs this always seems to be the key cultural edge OSU has over us and it's something that drives me crazy as a fan.
Will be interesting to see if Day is able to keep that part of the program up at the same level. I realize it's a collective craziness around the program that enables it but Day has to be the one who beats the drum every day. Whether Day is successful at keeping the Michigan hate genuine within the team will be a very underrated component of his success.
August 13th, 2019 at 5:17 PM ^
I'm obviously not a fan of Urban Meyer; dude is a scumbag and recruited more than his share of scumbag players. However, I legitimately give him credit for one thing: the man does not abide complacency.
August 13th, 2019 at 7:40 PM ^
Losing to then doesn't create a recruiting disadvantage. Losing 3 games a year to their 1 does. I grew up during the Cooper tenure, I still realized the importance no matter how often we won. But they had great teams and great players so he had no problem recruiting despite his terrible record against Michigan. We need a win this year in the worst way, no doubt. But year long success plays a bigger role in getting recruits, not that single game.
August 13th, 2019 at 3:35 PM ^
No problem. But they might want to tell OSU.
August 13th, 2019 at 3:37 PM ^
good thing no one on the internet says dumb things to get clicks.
August 13th, 2019 at 3:38 PM ^
Tracy Chapman let herself go.
August 13th, 2019 at 3:39 PM ^
I would tell them, "thou doth protest too much," but they would probably just respond that DOTH isn't a rival either. Playing school and all . . .
August 13th, 2019 at 3:39 PM ^
they have yellow pant pins for the love of God. We are rent free in their head. I'm walking away.... By the way guys, according to this article i found, water is no longer wet.
August 13th, 2019 at 3:59 PM ^
They had the yellow pants. Now they have tatoos. Go Bucks!
August 13th, 2019 at 11:00 PM ^
Talk about disrespecting the rivalry. They are gold pants. Details matter.
August 13th, 2019 at 3:39 PM ^
I mean a rivalry is one that goes back and forth. Is Minnesota our rival? Ohio state has owned us. Until we beat them again no it is not a rivalry. This will be the year that changes however
August 13th, 2019 at 3:42 PM ^
By this logic, was OSU not Michigan's rival during the Cooper era?
August 13th, 2019 at 3:50 PM ^
If cooper had stayed longer at osu and struggled then yes I would agree with that. It’s been 19 years!! How can you just pretend that it doesn’t effect a rivalry? Michigan Minnesota used to be a huge rivalry in the 50s and 60s now it’s a joke. They beat us once every 10-15 years. Osu Michigan is getting to that point and that is a scary thought. A rivalry is where each team wins half the games over a 20-30 year stretch. There can be streaks but not consistently favoring one team over the other. Isn’t it sad when the only hd game between Michigan Ohio state is from 2011? I think it’s been one sided long enough. 2019 is OUR year! Go Blue!
August 13th, 2019 at 3:59 PM ^
Wasn't Cooper at OSU something like 13 years. So, 13 years isn't long enough, but 19 is? Seems pretty arbitrary.
August 13th, 2019 at 4:29 PM ^
Well, were were told the other day that "all-time" doesn't include past wins, so there's that. Folks get to live their truth nowadays, it seems.
August 13th, 2019 at 4:34 PM ^
Cooper was also more successful in those 13 years than Michigan has been in the last 19.
August 13th, 2019 at 5:29 PM ^
Yep, Cooper had a few NC-type teams and was a recruiting monster. Take a look back at some of those mid to late 90 teams. His problem: he'd throw it all away against Michigan.
August 13th, 2019 at 5:37 PM ^
First of all, losing would affect a rivalry, not effect it.
Second of all, your arguments are patently ridiculous. Saying Michigan-Ohio State is like Minnesota-Michigan completely ignores the history of the programs involved. We are 58-51 all time vs Ohio State. We are 75-25 all time vs Minnesota.
Equivocating these two rivalries is absurd. Guess what? We have won more than a quarter of our games against the Buckeyes. In fact, we've done more than twice as well as that.
August 15th, 2019 at 5:03 AM ^
RXwolverine speaks the truth which of course is why he’s being negged. From ‘33 to ‘67, Minnesota actually held a 17-16-2 advantage over U-M. From ‘68 on, Minnesota’s record vs. U-M is 4-41.
4-41 is not a rivalry.
If you would have told a Minnesota fan at the conclusion of the1967 game to enjoy your victory and that they would only beat U-M four more times over the course of the next 51 years, they would have laughed you right out of the stadium.
Same thing would have happened after the 2003 victory over Ohio State. No Michigan fan would have ever believed it if you had told them that they would taste success only once more in the next fifteen years, yet here we are today with a 1-14 record over the past 15 years.
Clearly we still have a ways to go before we get “Minnesota’d“ and this rivalry goes the way of the dodo, but we are certainly on pace for it to happen.
August 15th, 2019 at 5:55 AM ^
That famous all time wins rebuttal is in serious jeopardy.We’ll see exactly how precarious it is during Day’s first year. The all time Big 10 head to head has already been achieved. UM won 19 of the first 20 I think? You know before electricity was invented.
August 13th, 2019 at 3:43 PM ^
If a team has been able to get the better of us because their life's purpose is to beat us, then I would say they consider us rivals. Actions speak louder than words.
August 13th, 2019 at 4:42 PM ^
Ohio State is less of a rival and more of a classroom bully that steals your lunch money and punches you in the face every day. No one likes it, it's just expected and both sides just deal with it, and no one really expects the equation to change.
Sparty has been more of a rival. Both sides expect to win.
August 13th, 2019 at 3:41 PM ^
We are 2-16 against them in our last 18 games. Honestly, outside of Rutgers & Maryland is there a B1G team with a worse record against OSU this century?
August 13th, 2019 at 3:49 PM ^
Not really any consolation, but since 1988 IU has played OSU like 26 teams with one tie and one OSU vacated victory.
August 13th, 2019 at 3:52 PM ^
So a likely 18 or 19 year old recruit has a memory of 1 U of M victory in his lifetime.. He isn't really wrong.
I have said this myself.. a rivalry isn't a rivalry if one of the 2 teams doesn't show up... and losing 62-39 and 16 of the last 18 is sorta by definition not showing up. I really hope that changes this year moving forward.
August 13th, 2019 at 4:05 PM ^
Elements to winning a football game: player talent, player motivation, coaching, luck & officiating.
MSU has been able to beat us recently because they have had the upper hand in three of the five (player motivation, coaching and luck).
OSU has beaten the brakes off of us this decade because they have all five.
August 13th, 2019 at 4:17 PM ^
Sending out the WD light signal..
I don’t think we’re alone in this category. A better question is, “Who has beat osu more than twice this century?”
Sparty?
PSU?
Wisconsin?
August 13th, 2019 at 4:26 PM ^
Since 2000, here's the record of every B1G team against OSU:
Illinois: 2-13
Indiana: 0-16
Iowa: 2-7
Maryland: 0-5
Michigan: 3-16
Michigan State: 3-12
Minnesota: 1-11
Nebraska: 1-4
Northwestern: 1-10
Penn State: 5-14
Purdue: 5-8
Rutger: 0-5
Wisconsin: 4-11
First, this was really painful. But second, I be like damn Purdue, tied for the most wins, and by far the best winning percentage.
August 13th, 2019 at 4:30 PM ^
So you’re saying Purdue is their big rival?
August 13th, 2019 at 4:32 PM ^
Fucking Purdue is 5-8
Fucking MSU is 3-12
Fucking Penn State is 5-13
Fucking Illini is 2-11
Fucking Iowa is 2-8
Fucking Wisconsin is 4-11
Only Minnesota (1-8) and Indiana (0-18) have won LESS games than us against them this decade.
August 13th, 2019 at 4:54 PM ^
Yeah, but, Michigan is better at rowing.
August 14th, 2019 at 11:06 AM ^
FEWER games. s/ Stannis Baratheon
August 13th, 2019 at 4:27 PM ^
That should tell how much this is a rivalry when we had pretty good teams that couldn't beat them. OSU definitely plays their best against us and somehow lose to inferior teams
August 13th, 2019 at 3:41 PM ^
Ok, cool. Hook 'em.
August 13th, 2019 at 7:29 PM ^
I don’t care what anyone says(writes), this never gets old for me. One of my all time favorite responses by anyone regarding anything was that original text to Z. Smith.