Copper Bowl Open Thread, MSU vs. TCU
Sparty pulls it out.
Couch burning pic still applies.
MSU should be thanking their punter.
Zoltan Mesko, 2008.
Sparty celebrating like they just won a BCS bowl...
Oh, yeah, forget about that...
TCU is a disgrace. That return guy sucks. Let the ball go into the end zone!!
All-time error there. Push the ball a) towards the endzone and b) away from opposing players!
but that was a good win for the B1G
Either the B1G wins or msu loses
Get out the popcorn and enjoy the comity.
But I thought Michigan was their bowl game?
BIG TEN!!! HELL YES!
It looks like the Michigans are going to save the Big Ten in bowl season.
Oh well. Win for the B1G, and I think Sparty will again be mediocre next year.
But going with Cook is hardly a genius move when Maxwell was sucking as badly as he did (and really has all year).
Maxwell wasn't really as bad as everybody made him out to be. His receivers dropped so many passes throughout the season and ran such lazy 6 yard routes, so it was really the receivers that made him look pathetic.
I don't really agree with that. Sure early in the year they were terrible, but they survived that for the most part. After that it became a magnification of that being the thing. Every team drops balls. They came to be average to slightly below average once Burbridge emerged. And Sims is an elite TE as a receiving option. There weren't many (any?) B1G teams with more than one elite receiving option, and many/most teams had below average WR's.
And any team with Bell as the RB should have play-action wide-openness of WR's built in. Not necessarily because he's great, but because he's a load and you want to meet guys like that near the line (pulling LBs into the play action early).
But you don't really need me to argue that he was bad. His own coach benched him for a freshman on the last drive of their bowl game.
He's pretty bad. His lack of the slightest movement is his main problem.
He does have the uncanny ability to make it seem like he's running in slow motion though. That can be quite entertaining for everyone except State fans.
The RB was wide open if boykin had just thrown it short
I realize that there was an offensive holding call on the play, but jeez, what a rotten throw.
So......Iowa is better than TCU, got it thanks Bdubs.
Off a defensive holding call, but they pick up the interference flag that would have offset the penalties for TCU and effectively ending the game. Meh.
in a good way
I guess Connor Cook is now the threat?
You will recall he is from that weird town in Ohio with all the vultures.
Kudos to MSU. They controlled the second half of this game. They ran the ball on a pretty stout D and got some opportunistic passing going. So the Big Ten is 1-1 and has looked respectably in both games.
BTW, this is about the third time this season someone has said "Quick, what are they saying on the RCMB?" in the middle of a game MSU was losing - and each time, they went on to win and this board looked ridiculous. How about you at least wait until the game is over to obsess over MSU fan reaction?
You're the one obsessing over obsessing over fan reactions.
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Score one for the Big Ten.
Good to be competitive and win some of these games. Stronger conference means more opportunities especially with the impending playoff unless BIG champion is garunteed a place.
Really want to shut down the Essss Eeee Seeee on Tuesday.
Doesn't the real trophy reside in Madison?
I believe either of the above are acceptable. Win B1G or go home!
a win for the BigTen......
Sparty definitely got some help from the officials on their last drive and on TCU's last drive. Too bad: it would have been great to see them go 6-7 this year.
Sparty won? Dang, going back to bed.
Feeling way better about the State game next year the more I watch them play. I can't picture their offense being much better than what we saw this year. If Bell and Sims, bolt probably worse. Neither of those quarterbacks present many problems for a defense.
I would think Sims is going to leave, really think his stock is at a high now. If Bell somehow is graded as a late 1st or early 2nd round, I think he'll leave, thing is, I doubt he is a top 2 round player at this juncture, however, with a better oline, he could be good. I think if he returns, their season will be similar to this year, win total ranging from 6-10. We will more than likely have issues on offense too due to a new oline and a struggling ground game.
Bell is definitely a Top 2 round player. The fact that their O-Line is that bad, but he's still putting up those rushing numbers says something
You are right, he does not have very good speed. He compares to LeShoure, and I think the Lions picked him late 1st round. If he is projected as at least a 2nd rounder, he should go due to RB's injury possibilities, not that he is a lattimore type back, but I think the general rule with RB's is if you have a chance to be picked in the top 3 rounds, you leave.
Sparty played last night? That goes to show how much I worry about them. Wake me up when they are relevant.
You've lost 4 of the last 5 to them...
I went to bed and woke up and said geez what happened?
I hope that we can hold up our end of the B1G bargain on Tuesday. While I hate MSU with a serious passion, I think we need to acknowledge that they beat an SEC team in their bowl game last year, and--lemon-sucking look or not--that Dantonio and his team have earned serious respect on the national stage. Even their uniforms kinda looked okay last night (he offered grudgingly).
Between Minny's valor and inspired defensive effort against Tech and the Spartans, the Big Ten is off to a better start than I expected.
I agree, as much as I hate sparty I am happy the big ten got their first bowl win against a respectable team. Now Jan 1st will either be another year where we see how the rest of the big ten pans out
As a Michigan fan either way I end up happy with the result.