College Football Top 25 (Post Spring rankings)

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I know it's is slow but CNNSI has their post spring top 25 rankings out Today...

 

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psychomatt

May 24th, 2011 at 3:49 PM ^

LSU will probably be one of the best two or three teams in the country this year, but that schedule will make it almost impossible for them to go undefeated. And that is the flaw in terms of how we pick the teams for the BCS Championship game. Teams like Boise State only need to beat one or two "modestly" ranked teams to go undefeated. I am not saying they are not a very good team, but their path to a 0-1 loss season is just too easy. My guess is that if every FBS team were given Boise State's schedule, at least a dozen would be undefeated at the end of the season.

justingoblue

May 24th, 2011 at 2:13 PM ^

That is a nasty schedule, but I'm just picturing looking up at the rest of your division being the only unranked team among several potential contenders. The OOC/OOD games you list aren't anything special, obviously, but at least LSU seems like a good team for next year. Ole Miss is just going to get obliterated by everyone in the West.

jmblue

May 24th, 2011 at 12:43 PM ^

I was just going to say that, if those rankings were end-of-season rankings, Michigan would have the most difficult schedule in the country by far! Brutal.
Not really. We don't play Wisconsin, so we only play four ranked teams out of 12 games, three of them at home. That's nothing out of the ordinary.

GoBlueInNYC

May 24th, 2011 at 1:13 PM ^

Oh, I don't think they'll go 6-6, but if they do it'll more than likely be to those 6 teams. (By the way, I specifically said "not terrible" teams. OSU will still have their typical solid defense, even if their offense struggles, and Iowa is a team, even on bad years, you shouldn't dismiss.)

I think MSU is way overrated, though. I think they were overrated last year (i.e., not as good as their 11-2 record would suggest). And as I said below, I think people are underestimating the impact of losing a lot of their O-Line will have. And I believe (I could easily be wrong) they lost a most of their top defensive players.

But yes, I hate MSU, and hope they fail miserably.

ironman4579

May 24th, 2011 at 1:30 PM ^

Do they return a lot though?  Not really actually.  They lost 11 starters.  3 OL from a good running game plus their starting TE and leading receiver.  They lose 6 guys from their defense. 

 

MSU isn't Alabama that can afford to lose like 18 starters or significant contributors and still be a double digit win team because they're bringing in studs every year (oversigning doesn't provide a competitive advantage my ass).

I would wager a pretty decent amount of money that MSU won't win more than 8 games this year, and 7 seems more likely.

jmblue

May 24th, 2011 at 1:36 PM ^

Defense and the OL are definite question marks.  I don't think losing Dell or the TE will hurt them that much, though.  A lot of WRs and TEs saw action for them last year, and Cousins is pretty good at spreading the ball around.  The real rebuilding year will be 2012.

chunkums

May 24th, 2011 at 2:17 PM ^

The defense will take a hit, but their D-line will be stout and they are replacing O-linemen with guys who have much higher ceilings than the ones they're replacing.  The O-line is from a pretty impressive class, and should be superior to the ones they replace once they get going.

Edit:  I guess I really didn't think about just how nasty their schedule is next year.  

dahblue

May 24th, 2011 at 1:59 PM ^

I think these games are all possible losses for MSU.  

@ND (State isn't used to going on the road before Nov.)
@Ohio State (another road game will be hard for sparty coming off the CMU festivities)
v Michigan (could be my homerism as we might be a year off still)
v Wisconsin (revenge game)
@Nebraska 
@Iowa (they could have Alabama'ed State last year if they wanted)
@NW (State should have lost last year at home)

I think State loses 6 of those 7 games.  Don't forget that State trick played/lucked their way into 3 wins last season.  They're just as easily an 8-win team as an 11-win team last year.  Now, they lose their O-line and best defenders?  It's not a big leap to forecast a 6-6 season.  

justingoblue

May 24th, 2011 at 2:30 PM ^

I have no idea; I'm from the pretty immediate area, but like most people I don't follow NU a lot.

I can tell you that Soldier Field would be killer for Illinois, Michigan, OSU, PSU. The amount of Big Ten alums around here is just ridiculous, and Soldier Field would be pretty awesome at night. Much better than a jerryrigged Wrigley during the day, IMO.

dahblue

May 24th, 2011 at 3:41 PM ^

It's also worth considering that State has followed every 9+ win season (in the last 40 years) with a flop:

1987:  9-2-1
1988:  6-5-1

1999:  10-2
2000:  5-6

2008:  9-4
2009:  6-7

Sparty on.

jmblue

May 24th, 2011 at 1:09 PM ^

I don't think MSU can match last year's record, but I can't see them losing all those games either.  They've got a very good QB who is in his third year as a starter.  Cousins is probably going to find a way to will them to victory in some of their tougher games.  He was terrific in pressure situations last year. 

Bodogblog

May 24th, 2011 at 4:06 PM ^

but not quality.  He came through in most games for them

But Sparty snuck up on people last year, and didn't face any real national pressure until Iowa.  They were undefeated and being talked about (they had a very small glimpse of what it feels like to be Michigan).  And Cousins literally threw the ball and the game to the Hawkeyes. 

The only other pressure game they faced was Alabama (PSU locally, but the rest of the country had gone back to ignoring them after Iowa), and they were obliterated.  Cousins again played poorly.

He's a good QB, no doubt.  And they've got Top 15 talent at the skill positions.  But not on D

dahblue

May 25th, 2011 at 9:18 AM ^

While I like Cousins as a QB, I don't think it was his work that got MSU the close wins last year.  ND was a special teams trick play.  I think that NW or Purdue was a special teams trick play...and the other was a complete breakdown and blocked punt that allowed State to win.  Maybe my recollection is off, but I recall the special teams making the big difference for them.

GoBlueInNYC

May 24th, 2011 at 12:46 PM ^

OSU will be interesting to keep an eye on. I don't see any game in the 5-game suspension that they couldn't conceivably win; game 6 against Nebraska will probably be their first real test. I could see they doing anything from going undefeated, to a complete chaotic collapse.

Nebraska has been so bad or inconsistent on offense the past few years, I wouldn't put too much stock in them down the stretch at this point. But with Martinez a year older and a better offensive scheme, they could be very tough, but that's too up in the air at this point.

MSU is way overrated. They were overrated last year, and I think people are really ignoring their O-line situation. All their offensive skill players will be good, but I see them losing more than a couple games because of poor line play.

Didn't Wisconsin graduate a huge number of players? How many starters are they returning, aside from those two RBs?

ND I could actually see finishing the season pretty high. They finished last season on a solid streak. Year 2 under Kelly, and I don't think they really lost any key players; they should improve from last year.

In sum, Michigan will dominate all to the extent that at the end of the season, Michigan will be ranked not only #1, but numbers 2 and 3 as well, just for good measure.

GoBlueInNYC

May 24th, 2011 at 12:57 PM ^

Personally, I don't know how big of an impact Tressel's suspension will really have. He'll be with the team all week for practice and prepping for opponents. He just won't be on the sideline calling the plays, which is something that I don't think he's all the exceptional at.

If anything, I think the Nebraska game will be tough specifically because the offense will probably have some of that first game rust teams tend to have week 1 (assuming the suspended players regain their starting spots).

But like I said, I could see anything from a total implosion to them scratching and clawing by until the suspended players start clicking with the rest of the team again.

TrppWlbrnID

May 24th, 2011 at 2:11 PM ^

i have also thought the same thing and discussed this with some of the various janitors and hobos (osu fans) i run across.  when pushed for an example, i can't come up with any examples of "bad plays" just situations where had he made a different call and stepped outside of his own style would have paid off more than staying within the style.

GoBlueInNYC

May 24th, 2011 at 2:20 PM ^

Right, I don't think Tressel is necessarily bad at playcalling. He doesn't make bad calls, but he's extremely conservative in a way that I think a competent replacement (I forget who's taking over for him on game day) could do just as well. If anything OSU's offense might stop trying to run the clock out at the start of the 3rd.

funkywolve

May 24th, 2011 at 3:01 PM ^

Agree that this game will be interesting for OSU.  The suspended players probably won't be getting many, if any, reps in practice with the starters while they're suspended.  There could be an adjustment period once they come back.  Running back might be the one spot where that might not be that be of a deal.

funkywolve

May 24th, 2011 at 2:55 PM ^

The teams in the SEC West have a brutal schedule. Look at LSU's schedule:

2 non-conference teams ranked in the Top 25: Oregon and WVU.  Alabama, Arkansas, Miss St, Auburn.

Arkansas has 4 teams in the Top 10:  Bama, LSU, South Carolina and Texas A&M.  They have to go to both Bama and LSU and play A&M on a neutral field.

In the SEC west Florida has brutal cross over games with the West.  Florida also has 4 teams in the Top 10:  Bama, LSU, South Carolina and FSU as well as Auburn.

justingoblue

May 24th, 2011 at 12:42 PM ^

It's their thing as newcomers to the powerhouse block. USC and Stanford and Washington and Michigan and OSU and on and on already have timeless uniforms. Oregon has almost zero tradition, but does have Nike bankrolling "cool" new uniforms every week.

It's their way of establishing something new, because they can't compete on the traditional uniform front. I would probably do the same thing if I were Oregon.

Litt1e Rhino

May 24th, 2011 at 12:43 PM ^

It is their look and I respect that. I actually love Oregon's jersey combos. Its unique to them and a great recruiting tool. I would hate it for Michigan, we need the clean slick look. I think all the different jerseys in college football are part of what makes college football amazing. There is a place for both traditional and modern jersey combos. 

BlueDragon

May 24th, 2011 at 12:44 PM ^

It's taken on a life of its own at this point.  As long as Knight/Nike keep pouring in the money, and the wins in a newly expanded--and weakened--Pac-12 keep rolling in, there is no need for Oregon to change their formula, such as it is.  This IS their tradition, for better or for worse.