College Football Teams With Most (and Fewest) Offers to 2020 Recruits
There are some academically oriented schools (Stanford, Rice, NW) at the bottom of this list, but at first glance it's not easy to see any other patterns:
https://herosports.com/college-football/2020-recruiting-most-offers-stanford-southern-miss-ahah
You might see Clemson near the bottom with 106 offers and say that the top-end schools are picky, but look at Alabama with 252 and Georgia with 267.
Michigan is easily in the upper half with 338. Leading the way is Southern Mississippi (and former Rich Rod Michigan assistant Jay Hopson) with 587.
February 24th, 2020 at 7:09 AM ^
Cool list, not sure what to make of it.
February 24th, 2020 at 10:29 AM ^
Whatever you want! We offer too many scholarships! Look at Alabama and Clemson. Rabble rabble.
February 24th, 2020 at 10:44 AM ^
I’m going to assume we are looking at this like we do with player weight. If we are high, it’s good, if we are low, also good.
February 24th, 2020 at 7:17 AM ^
Do more offers signal a high decline rate or maybe fewer firm commitments?
February 24th, 2020 at 9:12 AM ^
That's what I was thinking. Offers per open roster spots sems like a better measure.
February 24th, 2020 at 9:44 AM ^
You're really not going to glean anything from that. What constitutes an open roster spot? How do you factor in guys transferring out after spring ball? How do you factor in guys brought in through the transfer portal?
February 24th, 2020 at 9:48 AM ^
I retract my comment after seeing the table. I thought they were only talking offers. The percentage is exactly what I was suggesting. My bad.
February 24th, 2020 at 7:39 AM ^
I thought teams only offered like 40-50? I was way off.
February 24th, 2020 at 7:59 AM ^
lol more than anything I think it's just interesting. Figured all teams offered maybe 30 kids as a low up to possibly 60 total.
February 24th, 2020 at 8:11 AM ^
I checked-Michigan offered 301 recruits in 2019...so not that dissimilar. However, given all the in-state talent and the elite two who have committed, this higher number of offers does seem a bit curious. Is this an appropriate effort to "make hay" with this class or are they unsure and insecure about their ability to recruit? Hopefully they will "make hay".
February 24th, 2020 at 8:42 AM ^
You have your years mixed up. The 2020 class is all already signed or enrolled. 2021 is the year we're recruiting right now with all the in state talent
February 24th, 2020 at 8:28 AM ^
And all/most of these kids want special attention; phone calls, texts, home visits, etc. so the next time a story comes out and a recruit says “the coach forgot my name/called me by the wrong name” we can clearly see why. Trying to keep track of that many offers and personal information on all of them seems like an exercise in futility.
February 24th, 2020 at 9:52 AM ^
Yep. I posted something on Twitter a couple weeks ago about the fact that I used to be able to rattle off high schools, hometowns, etc. for virtually every Michigan recruit when Michigan was offering 120-180 players per cycle. I'm just a Schmoe on the internet, but I've lost track of many kids who report offers now that Michigan is up at 300+ in each class.
Right now Michigan has about 17 kids who were "offered" in the 2020 class who have yet to make a commitment. That's a much higher percentage than there used to be when Michigan was only offering 120. You would have a couple guys who wouldn't sign, and it was usually because they were non-qualifiers or got in legal trouble.
February 24th, 2020 at 9:55 AM ^
Most programs, including Michigan, have employees for whom this is their full time job. I have to imagine that for the vast majority of recruits, Harbaugh is working from a brief or a file anytime he interacts with them. So if a coach gets a name or something wrong, it wouldn't surprise me if its legitimately because the coach doesn't know them.
February 24th, 2020 at 10:05 AM ^
I'd love to see the CRM database for recruiting. Having worked in sales and business affairs/development, I've taken a lot of conversation notes so that I can remember who the heck I spoke with and what we talked about. I can't imagine Harbaugh having the time for detailed note taking in a file. I wonder if they have an assistant on the call to take notes and if so, if the kids knows if the assistant is there.
February 24th, 2020 at 10:58 AM ^
That's what Matt Dudek and his staff are there for.
February 24th, 2020 at 8:33 AM ^
I didn't realize Hopson was the former HC at Alcorn St.
February 24th, 2020 at 8:46 AM ^
Ok good. If you listen to some of the posters around here you'd assume JH only doesn't rack up the starrzzz™ because he just offers a couple guys and then sits down to a well-done steak with ketchup.
February 24th, 2020 at 9:04 AM ^
Keep in mind that this probably includes a number of "non-commitable" offers - basically helping kids to get exposure/recognition while knowing they are very unlikely to make it in.
February 24th, 2020 at 9:07 AM ^
Some crazy numbers, it would seem a target level of 10% commits on the offers would be reasonable.
Nothing really sticks out as pattern, Clemson obviously getting the pick of the litter.
Otherwise those are some huge target boards for most schools,...big business.
February 24th, 2020 at 9:34 AM ^
Conclusion: There are some shitty schools out there - both in terms of football, and in terms of academics - that are very picky about how many scholarships they offer. I think there may be a correlation here. They are so poor at academics that they never learned that a larger number of attempts will result in a larger number of successes, even if the probability of success remains the same as the sample grows... ;-)
February 24th, 2020 at 10:08 AM ^
It's like a sales funnel. The more prospects entering the funnel the more you close and/or higher quality "deals."
February 24th, 2020 at 10:40 AM ^
This is interesting, but I'm not sure the relevance. Do we care how many scholarships we offer? Would we prefer to offer more, less?
February 24th, 2020 at 11:55 AM ^
This just proves that looking at a kid's offer list can be somewhat misleading. Alabama has been notorious about offering tons of kids every year but the real question is how far down at that list was the kid and how close was the kid to having a "committable offer." 90% of their offers were just backup plans and I guess you could apply this to all of the major recruiting powers. The one I find surprising is the large number of offers that Georgia sends out considering the excellent HS talent in that state. I believe that Georgia has passed Ohio for HS talent moving behind Texas, Florida, and California.
February 24th, 2020 at 2:00 PM ^
This metric is...
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