November 18th, 2019 at 11:28 AM ^
For some reason, CW thinks David Long is still on the team.
November 18th, 2019 at 1:12 PM ^
Pretty high compliment to Lavert, I think.
November 18th, 2019 at 10:04 PM ^
I was gonna say that I am glad David Long has one year of eligibility remaining.
November 18th, 2019 at 11:29 AM ^
It was interesting listening to Urban try to be impartial. I don't remember if it was halftime or post-game, but he was pretty dismissive about the offense's progress saying repeatedly that it isn't a true spread yet. He tried to frame it like we had to go back to some older things because we weren't good enough to run Gattis' offense.
November 18th, 2019 at 11:31 AM ^
I don't think he was being dismissive, it's true. It's not the "speed in space" we were trying to run earlier.
November 18th, 2019 at 11:36 AM ^
It's not really true though, UM was absolutely a true spread team on Saturday. There were several speed in space types plays, screens, flairs to a motioning wr, etc. Urban even said something about going under center and they didn't go under center all day. The more accurate statement he could have made is that they went back to the running concepts from last year and have melded it with the spread that Gattis wants to run. Saying it was not a true spread on Saturday is just wrong though.
November 18th, 2019 at 11:52 AM ^
Gattis is truly scheming the game plan and calling the plays, the spread is totally installed now albeit with some of the zone blocking schemes we used last year for the run game.
The future is here and I like what I'm seeing.
November 18th, 2019 at 1:14 PM ^
Yes, and this is just the "base" offense so far. We need to stop stupid things like the 2 qb toss back and forth, and add wrinkles out of formations and routes we are already doing well. The more efficient we get at what we are currently doing, the more scary stuff we can run right out of the same thing.
November 18th, 2019 at 2:45 PM ^
The 2 QB toss back would have been epic had McCaffrey not get tackled. You put that on film, one more thing for competition to plan for. You come out in same formation and bluff the pass to Shea and have McCaffrey through it downfield. I like it..Also, they were just toying with MSU like a cat with a wounded mouse making it even more enjoyable.
November 18th, 2019 at 7:47 PM ^
I agree the 2 qb toss-back sucks. However, what I do like is when you have a WR that can throw run that play because it’s not expected that the WR would throw a pass.
November 18th, 2019 at 12:50 PM ^
Why would one of the most successful college football coaches of all-time know anything about football?
I’ll take what a bunch of dudes on MGoBlog have to say over Urban Meyer any day.
November 18th, 2019 at 1:14 PM ^
Well, he does forget things sometimes
November 18th, 2019 at 1:16 PM ^
Well, as an OSU fan--and MGoBlog troll--you're pretty biased toward Meyer.
November 18th, 2019 at 4:00 PM ^
So the guy who basically invented the contemporary spread is wrong?
November 18th, 2019 at 11:32 AM ^
Urban was correct.
November 18th, 2019 at 11:35 AM ^
Urban is a 100% correct on offense though they are showing more flashes. Urban is never impressed with Michigan's offense but he constantly compliments Don Brown.
November 18th, 2019 at 11:36 AM ^
I don't like agreeing with Urban Liar about anything, but I believe he was spot on with this one.
November 18th, 2019 at 11:40 AM ^
He actually wasn't though, I mean before Saturday I would have agreed with him. But what about Saturday's offense was not a true spread? You had 100% snaps from the gun, speed in space sort of plays with flair outs and wr screens, QB keepers, etc. Using running concepts from last year does not mean it was not a true spread. You can in fact run power in a true spread offense.
November 18th, 2019 at 11:51 AM ^
Agree with everything except the sophmoric "Urban Liar" thing. Leave that bullshit to our rivals (scUM, TSUN, x'ing out the M's, etc).
If you want to really piss them just drop the "The".
November 18th, 2019 at 12:29 PM ^
Personally, I prefer "an Ohio state university" because there are 14 state universities in the University System of Ohio. Granted, OSU is the flagship institution of the USO, but it's only one of the 14 public state universities in the system.
November 18th, 2019 at 1:41 PM ^
Yup - aOSU is my go-to these days.
November 18th, 2019 at 12:39 PM ^
I prefer calling him Suburban Meyer because he’s definitely not cool enough to live in a real city.
November 18th, 2019 at 11:39 AM ^
I didn't think it was so much being dismissive, I think he was just pointing out that it is not a true spread, just a combination of pro and spread concepts.
November 18th, 2019 at 11:45 AM ^
I think you (and others) missed my last sentence. I think he was correct, but the way he made the point was very Debbie Downer like, "well sure they scored a lot and moved it when and how they wanted... BUT it wasn't true spread! They tried earlier and failed!"
I fully agree that we are not a true spread, and he was correct, but he seemed unable to give credit for how well the offense is running, rather focusing on the fact that we had to change course from what we said we were going to be during the offseason.
Maybe that was because he has no fondness of UM, or maybe that's just what I took from it based on his tone, which indicated that he was miserable. He doesn't seem to enjoy being in front of a camera and was very uncomfortable.
November 18th, 2019 at 11:51 AM ^
Not sure I care what you call it as long as it scores a lot of points.
November 18th, 2019 at 12:31 PM ^
Fully agree. I couldn't care less what offense we run as long as it works.
November 18th, 2019 at 12:50 PM ^
Sorry, I suppose it's understandable, but you seem to be a person so imbued with Meyer's obvious flaws at OSU (I get it) that you cannot listen to him objectively as an analyst. He hasn't been negative in the slightest (other than when everyone including us was negative).
November 18th, 2019 at 12:37 PM ^
Meyer is an offensive (no pun intended) coach, who is not satisfied unless every drive ends in a score...total perfectionist.
His best teams, btw, were not pure spread either. They combined power run schemes with spread passing attack schemes. I know we’re sensitive around here because he owned us (except 2016*), but his assessment is accurate.
November 18th, 2019 at 12:48 PM ^
I watched that live and he was not being dismissive in the slightest. He's been as fair as anyone could expect this season. In fact, I'll go so far as to say as an analyst, he's damn good.
November 18th, 2019 at 2:09 PM ^
Urban Meyer and “fair” are 2 incompatible concepts.
November 18th, 2019 at 3:11 PM ^
Urban "Gets it"... he's not being dismissive at all. If anything, I think he's just a little bit frustrated since he's a football geek and understands that what Michigan is trying to accomplish still hasn't reached the ceiling yet (and he has to explain it to the fools around him).
So what you're taking away as being offensive, and dismissive, is him actually giving Michigan an compliment... what he's trying to say is... no, this isn't the end goal, it looks good, but the end goal is much more.
Stop trying to point him out as a "Dick" and try listening to what he's saying; just like most of the lemmings I have to work with in the fuckin corporate world... they make this shit personal instead of learning. Why don't you pull the butt plug out our of your anus, to just listen to what the guy is saying. I can't stand him either, but I certainly respect his knowledge of the game.
November 18th, 2019 at 11:33 AM ^
Yeah, that's good. In fact it's really good. I still don't like Urban Meyer's. . . tie.
November 18th, 2019 at 11:34 AM ^
They're talking like Michigan never played zone prior to the ND game. Am I missing something here? I was under the impression we've played a lot of zone all season
November 18th, 2019 at 11:37 AM ^
D has played a ton of zone all year. Brown has done a really good job mixing coverages. With that said OSU is going to score a good amount of points in two weeks. Offense needs to keep up.
November 18th, 2019 at 12:18 PM ^
Brown has always had zone but uses it sparingly until the week of Notre Dame and I’m sure that Charles Woodson and Urban Meyer know a wee bit more about what has gone on than a bunch of bloggers.
November 18th, 2019 at 12:41 PM ^
Wow, blogger? That's putting it kindly. I've always seen myself as internet fan boy slappie. But I'll take blogger.
November 18th, 2019 at 2:00 PM ^
This isn't true at all and I'm going to bank on Urban and especially Woodson aren't watching every snap of Michigan in every game of the year to make that distinction.
November 18th, 2019 at 11:37 AM ^
Yeah they have, maybe been trending to running it a larger percentage of the time, but they were using zone in the very first game of the season.
November 18th, 2019 at 11:41 AM ^
That's what the main announcer said, not what Woodson and Meyer said. Meyer talked about OSU and Florida.
November 18th, 2019 at 11:36 AM ^
The intentional modification of someone's name is so 3rd grade. Can we please stop?
November 18th, 2019 at 12:41 PM ^
The Dantonio misspellings drive me crazy too. I know the media tend to muck that stuff up, but I would think most people would aspire to be more educated than media flunkies right?
I neg every one of those posts, but of course most of the time it doesn't matter.
November 18th, 2019 at 1:19 PM ^
Okay *Fart-in-bagger*
=snicker=
November 18th, 2019 at 1:41 PM ^
That's it. After the bell, behind the gym. Bring a bucket for your tears Clarence!
November 18th, 2019 at 3:16 PM ^
Mr. Clarence "Buttlicker" is that you?
November 18th, 2019 at 9:03 PM ^
Dintiglio would be very upset at your terrible spelling of his name
November 18th, 2019 at 11:46 AM ^
Hah, "Urban Liar." Good one. So clever. You should try stand up comedy.
November 18th, 2019 at 11:47 AM ^
If I never see "Urban Liar" again, I'll be happy. It is juvenile, it isn't funny, and it makes Michigan fans look pretty petty and sophomoric. And FTR, OSU and MSU have plenty of idiot fans who do the same kind of thing. Don't be one of them.
As for the analysis, I personally really have liked most of the segments Meyer has done, including this one. It is kind of academic whether or not Michigan is playing a "true spread" offense. I agree with his basic premise that it is hard to implement and install something new, and there is a transition period. I definitely believe that Michigan would beat PSU in another night white out in State College. I'm not as sure about Wisconsin, but suspect a rematch would be a vastly different game.
Oh, and sad to say, but I'm still predicting a loss to OSU. I feel like it will be less of a beatdown, but I'm not convinced Michigan can conquer and vanquish this one last foe. The Buckeyes happen to be playing at an extremely high level. (I think if everything happens right for Michigan and extra things happen wrong for OSU, that Michigan could win, but I'm not predicting it.)
Oh, and one last thing on Urban Meyer. He opined early on, perhaps after Army, maybe Wisconsin, that Michigan could well end up with 9 wins. Most people thought he was crazy. Now it looks like it will end up being true. And with OSU and a bowl game, the Wolverines could have a final win total of 10 or 11. Not bad. Not bad at all.
November 18th, 2019 at 1:10 PM ^
Down in front!!
November 18th, 2019 at 11:55 AM ^
I don't care for Urban as a person, but he's got a brilliant football mind. You can see why he wiped the floor with us a few times. Really smart