Buckle Up? (Andrel Anthony)
Well...this is a surprise!
I don't know much about him other than MSU wanted him bad and he was considered an MSU lean. On just that alone, I want him.
not to mention he lives 5 minutes from msu campus
Looks as if they were always the backup and Michigan kind of slow played him, but he was patient and waited for his shot.
They brought the press late and he was all in.
*All M.
So MSU takes Emoni Bates from our backyard....and this is our response!!!!
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We stole sparties top recruit ?
Harbaugh is the king at recruiting 3 stars. This is going to change the Michigan OSU rivalry.
Ronnie bell was a better WR than wunderkind DPJ
and 4 star JK Dobbins and 5 stars Jeffrey Okudah, Wyatt Davis, Justin Fields, and Chase Young kicked our ass by 40 points. If the coaching staff keeps going for low hanging fruit, they will never win 11/12 games in a season and will always lose the last regular season game.
So you think if Michigan just tried harder they could recruit better talent?
and were better organized - YES!!!!
Brian covered this over the past few months. When they lost Partridge and Campanile, they should have hired two excellent recruiters to replace them instead of hiring Shoop. Dudek is not a good recruiting coordinator as Michigan has only signed three players in the top 100 since the 2017 class. Juwan Howard signed 3 top 100 players last cycle and only had a class of 4 recruits.
Lazy to try to compare top 100 football to top 100 basketball
Lazy is kind. It’s straight ignorant.
So I take it you think Beilein had better luck with elite recruits than Harbaugh?
just change your name to ThadMattascryinchild and be done with it
Based on LB commits, seems like the coach you neglected to mention has been doing pretty well
FWIW, you're looking at the last two classes. The non-top 100 people include Aidan Hutchinson (112) and Jalen Mayfield (268), who both could end up being first rounders.. certainly 2nd rounders. #700, Vincent Gray, saw a lot of playing time last year and same with Haskins (975) and Bell (N/A).
Giles Jackson (303) was dynamic as a freshman...Erick All (346) and Mike Sainristil (595) saw a lot of time as well.
3 top 100 guys signed for 2019, we're currently at 2 committed for this year and (fingers crossed) Edwards and Spindler would give us 4. They may not be the best at closing the top guys, but they've done well at identifying some talent. At the same time we haven't beat OSU, we haven't been to a conference title game... as a top guy who has a choice, you're probably going somewhere else (sorry to say it, but it's what is happening). Until the tide turns and we beat OSU, we'll continue to finish on the wrong end of these battles.
You need to go receive personal counseling. You never show up when we win a recruiting battle you only show up with your pumps and skirt every time you feel like Harbaugh has failed. Just go run off to East Lansing or something or just join RCMB. It’s ok,”nobody will miss you!”
I disagree. I like the guys Shoop is getting. Maybe our safety issues will finally be over. And Jean-Mary is nailing it. Love the LBs he's getting.
Skill/ability vs effort. Many times the task requires more than good effort.
You don't think Harbaugh and Co. would jump all over getting a Chase Young, Jeffrey Okudah, Justin Fields, or Wyatt Davis if given the opportunity? They absolutely would, and I guarantee they are trying to recruit these guys. But the fact of the matter is that by and large, those guys want to go somewhere else. Michigan is not on their radar because Michigan can't even win its own division, much less make the playoff and win it. They want to go to an OSU, a Clemson, an Alabama, Georgia, or Oklahoma.
Kind of a vicious cycle. In order to win those big games, you've got to get better recruits. But you need those better recruits in order to win those bigger games. At least over OSU anyway, because we're never going to catch them by surprise like a Purdue or Iowa would, and we're never going to not get their best game and complete undivided attention.
Michigan has so many problems to solve with regards to OSU, and I have no idea how they fix it at this point. OSU is clearly head and shoulders above anything Harbaugh can throw at them at this point.
Money matters.
Weak take.
I agree with most of this. I do not think head and shoulders better is accurate...better, yes. The past two games vs OSU were kinda ugly without a doubt. Michigan did very little to put any real pressure on OSU. Who knows what would happen in a tight game in the fourth quarter. A mistake here or there swings things. I think for a couple of years Harbaugh and company believed this would happen with the defense. I really believe offense is now where the pressure comes from. Put the pressure on the opposing offense to keep pace and take some risks. Maybe one of those risks results in a turnover or a blown assignment. At least that is how I feel watching Michigan’s offense vs. OSU (Haskins missing a wide open hole on 4th down when he had nothing but Bredeson and green grass in front of him). Again, score a touchdown there and swing the pressure onto OSU’s offense.
i also think the main portion of this talent gap has been on the offensive side of the ball. Let’s be honest, if putting guys in the NFL is a measuring stick, then the OSU skill players are way out in front. Who is the last game breaker Michigan has had offensively?
i like where Michigan is going with its offensive recruiting. Speed is a real thing. Speed plus talent in the right system is downright dangerous. They need to land a premium RB to round it out.
The mistakes you mention, hoping OSU somehow makes them.....when was the last time you saw OSU make a critical mistake in a game against Michigan? Or at the very least, a mistake that Michigan made them pay dearly for making? Maybe 1-2 in 2016, but they don’t happen often. Meanwhile, Michigan makes crucial, backbreaking mistakes it seems like at least once per half of every game they play in vs. OSU.
That all goes into the mental aspect of the game, where OSU has Michigan beaten in spades. Another area of many that I believe, aside from talent, Michigan has to address and I have no idea how they do so.
OSU can walk into The Game calm, cool and confident because they have 20 years of dominance they’re riding on. They know they can make a mistake or two and still win convincingly.
Perkis-don’t misunderstand what I am saying. Michigan absolutely has not been able to force OSU to make a mistake. Throwing an interception...absolutely not. Hell, take a look at Michigan’s sack totals against them over the past couple of years. Take my word for it when I tell you there isn’t any.
my point is all about offense putting pressure on OSU. Score points and lots of them because the defense Isn’t gonna slow down their offense. It’s not often OSU finds themselves in a tight game with Michigan in the 4th quarter. Maybe just maybe they do something uncharacteristically stupid. Anyway, I agree with most of what you said. The weight of the world is on Harbaugh to figure it out. Hell, The Game has simply become just another game for OSU.
I think this is an area Harbaugh needs to get help/improve. I think he is a highly strung person and it rubs off on the team. I think he wants to win so bad it translates into the team being tense and thus making mistakes in the biggest games (close games).
Totally agree. For the past two years, schematically we start off going punch for punch with OSU. But a bad interception or a costly redzone fumble flips a one score game into a quick two score game and it totally sucks the life out of the defense, which then proceeds to be an avalanche. Last year really made no sense. On one side, you have Shea fumbling in the red zone (presumably from nerves) which totally shifted the momentum of the game. On the other side, you have guys like Carlo Kemp untying the shoe laces of Dobbins after he was down, which just makes it seem like they are not taking the game seriously at all. In prior years, we were able to play through mistakes, like in 2016 when Speight threw two interceptions (one pick six) and fumbled at the one yard line. The defense didnt give up after those costly mistakes and we fought back with them till the very end. For some reason, the last two years, the defense looks like it just quits after a costly mistake that swings the momentum of the game, zero resiliency. I'm blindly hoping this is partly a Shea Patterson problem and the defense had no faith in him rather than a staff problem not properly preparing the team for the biggest game of the season..
You want to catch OSU ? Then have to take alot of Ohio players..... need a team full of them because of the intangibles they bring... then, need to get the top Michigan players... this combo will do it. Need Spindler and Edwards.. but need more Ohio players, because they have so much on the line. A kid from, say, California, doesn't.
You had your Chase Young, some 5 star out of the northeast if I recall. You also had DPJ which was nonexistent for years against good competition. Problem is you don't develop players. BTW a decent QB would help.
Chase Young had like one tackle against us
Again you’re the bridesmaid to Maizen for tampon of the year award!
I know it has been tough on all of us losing to OSU every year , but you have to hang in there Thad.
oSU is recruiting better than all but 3 other teams. UM is in the next group below that group everyone knows that. UM is recruiting near elite, oSU is elite. Your problem is that you have astronomical expectations and are also quite a D-bag for shitting on a kid because some old dudes somewhere rank him lower than a player you’d like to see, tour a broken record and no one likes you probably not even your mom.
I disagree.
He outperformed him as a WR...but that's not necessarily all his fault. Definitely isn't a better WR.
DPJ had unreal talent. Bell got the ball more and produced more.
Are we now going to say Grant Perry was always the best WR on the team because he produced more than any other WR?
If we're just using stats to define best, I need to redefine my meaning for that word.
Bell was good between the 20's and when we needed a TD we went to to DPJ or Nico.
Bell has got to take the next step and show he can be reliable in the red zone. There's a reason he only had 1 TD last year.
Ronnie bell was a better WR than wunderkind DPJ
I have no idea why, but I have a feeling like Andrel Anthony will be a gamer for whatever team he plays for. Nothing to base this hunch off of, haven't even seen his tape, just a gut instinct. If he wants to come to UM so badly that he is ready to take on the challenge of beating out all the other talented receivers in front of him then i'd be happy to bring him on!
I wonder how many more spots we have if we take on Anthony and Thomas. That would put us at 22. Best case scenario with the rest of our top targets (Edwards, Spindler/Kendall, Fidone, Benny, Rooks) would put us at 27.
Thanks for commenting on the topic of the thread. I almost forgot what it was.
Good thing you have a crystal ball to know how these players are going to turn out!!
Magnus, who seems to know a good bit about football, just posted a review of his predictions for the 2013 class. He was way off on many of the ‘can’t miss’ guys. He was also way off on many of the ‘3 star types’.
so what I am saying is that I will say congratulations to the young man for possibly committing to the University of Michigan. I’ll reserve judgement on the ole ‘how are we ever gonna beat OSU with these kind of guys’ hot take.
You realize he had commitable offers to Penn St, Notre Dame and MSU?
You do realize they just got a commitment from a guy who is probably going to be a five star WR?
The world is a miserable enough place. Stop trying to make misery where there is none
"Harbaugh is the king at recruiting 3 stars. This is going to change the Michigan OSU rivalry."
This is especially funny considering Ohio State's current best WR (Chris Olave) was a 3 star. Olave picked Ohio State over Michigan.
Yep, losing this 3 star is more painful every November.
And your the king of Dildos.
Dude, you couldn't be more wrong with that comment. It's "you're".
Thanks grammar police!
*Rutger has entered the chat
Your name speaks for itself.