Bredeson on Gattis
First, congrats to Michigan Bball and John Beilein. Another sweet 16!
A paraphrase from Austin Fox at Rivals:
Bedeson, “Things are more accelerated now. We want to be the best offensive line we can be, and want to be the most dominant line both in the Big Ten and against every team we play. Winning the battle in the trenches will give us the best chance to win games. We take so much pride in that aspect and strive to be consistent. We know that if we set the tone, it'll help us move the ball. The new offense actually isn’t drastically different for us as a group, because Coach [Ed] Warinner and Coach Gattis have done a great job working together."
The rest of the article is behind the paywall, but Bredeson likes the tempo and no huddle.
I added this to the discussion:
“Gattis might not have the team huddling up, but he is still going to run the ball from the Pro Spread. He said he would run using spread mechanics and they will be fundamentally sound running the ball. In addition, he does state that his offense will not be “dink and dunk” and full of bubble screens. He wants to take the top off and use the whole field in the passing game. The key difference that he will employ is to get the backs involved in the passing game more often and allow the QB to run more RPO.”
Win The Game.
"You play to win the game".
Sigh @ Evans
Exactly!
He's working to come back as we speak.
Basically, Gattis is saying that we are going to do absolutely everything and we are going to do it extremely well with very sound fundamentals. Nothing like promising the sun, the moon, and the stars before the first game. We all hope he delivers!
We need him to deliver when it counts. Time to beat OSU and win big games. Lots of roadblocks this year (@Wisky, Iowa, @PSU, MSU, ND, and OSU).
Especially when the defense is going to take a step back from losing Winovich, Gary, Bush and Long. Bush is the biggest loss of all because he covered up a lot for Michigan defense on the 2nd level and neither of the LBs don't have the range and instincts that Bush has at MIKE. The pass rushers has to step up because Winovich provided a lot of pass rush while Gary did some of his own though he could've been better at it.
March 23rd, 2019 at 10:44 PM ^
well seeing how many points that defense gave up the last few games, there better not be a "step back".
March 23rd, 2019 at 11:34 PM ^
Unfortunately, there is no position group on defense where we project to be even as good as last year.
March 23rd, 2019 at 11:37 PM ^
Same as from 2016 to 2017. The 2017 defense turned out alright.
We’ll be fine.
March 23rd, 2019 at 11:47 PM ^
Yeah but the 2016 defense was incredibly good and wasn't matched by 2017 or 2018. Holding OSU to 17 in regulation and 8 sacks was damn near a miracle. Our offense just sputtered.
As in so many other instances, saying "we'll be fine" is just an attempt to reassure yourself. It is not an argument or evidence. Not even sure what "fine" means exactly, and I doubt you are either, but I'm pretty sure "fine" is not good enough to beat Ohio State.
I'd say with the addition of Dax Hill the secondary could be better than last year.
Not sure how that's going to happen. We have two CBs on the whole roster with any playing experience, and one of them is hurt. At safety we have Metellus, who is decent, and after that, Hawkins, Kelly-Powell and Woods, none of whom impress, and a bunch of guys who have yet to play a down. Hill may eventually turn out to be a very good player, but how many true freshmen under Harbaugh have been difference makers?
You are saying that Hill isn't going to play much and isn't going to be a difference maker.
Have you even watched him play? There wasn't a team out there who was telling him he'd have to ride the bench.
March 24th, 2019 at 11:20 AM ^
I expect he'll play, since our talent at safety is very limited. But no, he will not be a different maker, any more than Peppers or Gary was as a true freshman. Harbaugh simply doesn't trust true freshman, and will not use them in a starring role, no matter how good they are.
And no, I have not watched him play in college, and neither have you.
Not true at all. Harbaugh has proven that the best players will play, regardless of age. We've mostly seen freshman rotate in, or have special teams roles but if a freshman were good enough to start I have complete faith Harbaugh would start them.
How many instances under Harbaugh can you name where an established starter has been replaced by someone younger?
Chris Evans came in and played early, Bredeson, Onwenu, Ruiz played early stepping over guys that were older than them. Our entire WR group jumped guys on the depth chart causing some people to transfer. Devin Bush started over guys older than him. Our CB's started over guys older than them. I mean pretty much every position has young guys playing over people with more experience. Maybe they weren't true freshman but this demonstrates how Harbaugh will play the best players regardless of age. Just because we haven't seen a true freshman come in and start day 1 does not mean it wont happen. You saying "Harbaugh simply does not trust freshman" is not true.
I'll ask again, since you dodged the question completely:
"How many instances under Harbaugh can you name where an established starter has been replaced by someone younger?"
Name me some guys who STARTED one year, and were replaced as the starter by a younger guy the next year.
I answered the question in the first response. I'll say again....Kekoa Crawford was the number 1 receiver...his job was about to be taken by DPJ and/or Black and he decided to transfer to get a shot elsewhere. A freshman overtaking a starter is uncommon at places like Michigan because there is established depth and talent at every position, and freshman are rarely able to come in and take the job from someone who already has game experience. No matter how many accounts you make..your shtick remains the same....you treat your opinions like they are facts and try to treat anyone who disagrees with you like they have no idea what they're talking about. You saying Hill won't be a difference maker as a freshman, and "Harbaugh simply doesn't trust true freshman, and will not use them in a starting role, no matter how good they are." is your opinion....definitely not fact. No way Harbaugh has ever communicated to you that's how he feels.
I agree with Nick. Your opinion are bad (also not supported by fact) and you should feel bad.
I think Dax Hill will be an immediate difference-maker on Defense. I don't think I'm the only one who thinks that.
Safety?
If we have Florida game to go off from, then it's not going to be pretty. Winovich played hurt, no Gary and Bush. Florida offense was average at best and put up 41 on Michigan defense.
March 25th, 2019 at 12:16 PM ^
Next, man-up
or
Next man up
Same as last year. Except a better home/away breakout. Don Brown against frosh QB in Madison comforts me. New QB at Ped U as well. This is a much better track than last year.
March 23rd, 2019 at 10:18 PM ^
Those away roadblocks are not as scary. Both Wisky and PSU lost their starting QBs.
March 23rd, 2019 at 11:27 PM ^
Ohio State had a new starting QB in 2018. Didn't help us much.
Will believe things are different on offense when I see it. Gattis doesn't have the speed or the talent to beat high level opponents, no matter what "system" he tries.
March 24th, 2019 at 12:23 AM ^
Guys I found Maizen's new account.
He puts the C in deep blue C
So because someone speaks the truth, he's labeled as Maizen?
mmmmmkay
March 25th, 2019 at 12:18 PM ^
Guys, I found one of Maizen's alt accounts.
Thanks you for proving my point exactly.
Way to perpetuate the MGoGroupThink here. The content is totally lacking without your contributions.
March 27th, 2019 at 12:57 PM ^
Lmao, ok Maizen.
If I recall, DPJ ran a 4.4 in HS and was a 5*/#1 WR in the country. But there's no talent....
Quit re-treading this tired argument you've been making for weeks.
Even better a legit 4.3
Objectively wrong statement.
March 24th, 2019 at 10:13 AM ^
UMbig11, I agree, year 5 will have some expectations of "put up or shut up".
Funny thing is, if Harbaugh actually lets go of the play calling reigns, I think he will find some patience with the fan base. I know I would be much less upset about a poor loss if our offense really and truly is changing with the times and we don't look like a team from 1986 (comparative to what offenses look like today to what we looked like last year).
I'm glad the Iowa game is at Ann Arbor. I don't want another surreal Saturday night at Iowa.
That game in Kinnick was my first away & night game. Disappointing.
Agreed on OSU, but Mich did beat 3 of those roadblocks last year by 25, 14 and 35. Those were big games. People seem to think it's only a "big game" if Michigan loses, which is unfair.
Not true. People would have considered it a "big game" if they had beaten Ohio State. But they lost, for the 4th straight time under Harbaugh, with no end in sight. Harbaugh has yet to beat a really good team on the road, in 4 years, and he has yet to win a game that would have given him a championship.
I wonder what Gattis means by "pro spread" because not all spread is similar. There's pro spread and then there's power spread (although those 2 strands are converging a lot more recently).
Man Frank, I was counting on you to explain that one. I really don’t know, but it sure sounds like we are not abandoning the power game.
If Gattis means what I think he means, then I'm slightly off put.
Truthfully, I prefer the power spread to the pro-style spread because it relies less on TEs as blockers and does a better job of creating individual match-ups across the field which puts a lot of horizontal stress on defenses.
Whether people here want to admit it or not, our TEs are not good blockers. (And frankly, Jake Butt was not a dominant blocker as well.) McKeon is on record saying that he hates blocking and that hurts my soul. A TE that doesn't like to block inline bothers the hell out of me because you have to love blocking to be damn good at it. (Think Ben Mason. Everytime I watch Mason play, I think "he wants to crack someone's skull open or at least pancake him into the ground." I don't see that edge from any one of our TE blockers.)
That said, we should *finally* have a dominant OL this year and there will likely be less need on our TEs to block. Our most talented position group on the team is WR. We have at least 3 NFL WRs in that core. And if Gattis is serious about using RBs as pass-catchers (which I have been yapping about like a broken record forever), then we'll be in a lot of 11 or 10 personnel which I'm very happy about.
For all the talk about Harbaugh's use of TEs, it's Iowa which has done a better job of developing and showcasing talent at that position. George Kittle, drafted one pick after Jake Butt, has become a beast in Kyle S's 49ers offense. And Iowa will have 2 TEs (each a different style) drafted in the 1st round. We have none so far.
One of my major annoyances with the Harbaugh offense in 4 years is how our TEs just do not block well but continue to get snaps as inline blockers. Gentry most certainly should have been used a lot more as a flex TE.
The other thing I want to see is some more outside zone blocking to create as schematic counter to the inside zone (which has some overlap with man blocking). It's a bit of a tall task because outside zone requires different footwork to inside zone but I am of the firm belief that every team should have 3-5 core OZ plays as a balance to any m2m/IZ blocking play as a good "F you" counter to the defensive adjustment. It demoralizes a defense to see the front 6 or 7 shift inside only to be outflanked by a stretch counter that goes for 20+ yards.
The last thing I would like to see is the addition of option out of a sweep. It's a great way to force a defense to show its hand (man or zone) and then create a numbers advantage if the defense doesn't stay sound.
March 23rd, 2019 at 10:07 PM ^
Thanks for that input. Gattis has repeatedly talked about putting the defense in a conflict of coverage. And you are right, our TE’s did not block well at all.
March 23rd, 2019 at 10:17 PM ^
Yeah, I saw that.
I think what he means by that is what he intends to do to a defense's back 7 specifically the LBs and S.
Judging from his background with Moorhead, I think he wants to put opposing safeties in the blender and just have them always guessing.
But I wonder if he'll do that with some multi-directional misdirections or more with "I'm going to rain Death From Above with mid-to-long range bombs because I know my 5 skill players are better than your entire defensive back 7." In other words, how much will every single motion of our offense have a counter?
We want our players to play quickly (because they understand the offense inside and out). But there's a tradeoff between playing fast (simpler offense with fewer options) and playing slower (greater complexity with sometimes too many options that aren't utilized).
That said, so far he's said a lot of things I've wanted to hear.