Best case/worse case Michigan football (ESPN)

Submitted by RogueRage on

As far as ESPN standards go, this article is at least somewhat entertaining. I think the best case is better than 10-2 but it's still an interesting read during August. TLDR: Best case: 10-2 with losses to both rivals and a Rose Bowl. Worst case: 6-6 with a Toys-R-Us resurgence.  http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/122357/best-caseworst-case-michigan-wolverines

Tater

August 21st, 2015 at 1:58 PM ^

The author has basically figured out that Michigan's "best-case scenario" is to not be as good as Sparty or OSU, but better than all of the other teams they play.  Then, he predicts "chalk."  

The piece is OK and the "worst-case" is sorta funny, but no true "best-case scenario" includes Michigan losing to both MSU and OSU.

Wolverine2349

August 22nd, 2015 at 11:35 AM ^

Bingo.

 

No best case scenario especially with the record at 10-2 includes losses to thhose hated despised does in MSU and OSU, especially with the games being at the big House.

 

I would rtaher go 7-5 and beat one of them than 10-2 with losses to both especially since both are at home.

 

Losing at home to hated MSU and OSU is personal for me and much worse than losing to them on the road. But if we lose to them at hme this year, it will feel like a must win against one of them on the road in 2016.

bjk

August 21st, 2015 at 7:15 PM ^

would not have gone to a bowl even if they had won. Neither would Michigan if they had won the following year. 1972 (1973 Rose bowl) was the first year a Big Ten team could have repeated. As we all know, 1973 (1974 Rose Bowl) was the first year any Big Ten team did.

lilpenny1316

August 21st, 2015 at 1:20 PM ^

Go off to Arizona and finally get a chance to play for RichRod and Shane could've had a full season of game action for us.  I don't see how things could've been any worse for us if that happened.

I still remember the Gardner who played at the end of 2012 when they still had elements of the spread and got us excited for 2013.  I think there was still a good college QB in him.

Ronnie Kaye

August 21st, 2015 at 2:07 PM ^

I was saying at the end of 2013 season that Gardner should transfer to Arizona, even though I'd hate to see him go. Playing under Brady the Caveman was literally hazardous to his health. Michigan was going to run a dropback passing game with slow-developing routes no matter how bad the offensive line was because comfort.

PurpleStuff

August 21st, 2015 at 1:54 PM ^

In Gardner's first 17 games starting at QB for Michigan he accounted for 50 TD and threw just 16 INT.  Penn State in 2013 is the only game against a B1G opponent or ND or in a bowl game during that time period where he threw more than 1 INT (he threw 2 in that game).

He threw for 300+ yards against Iowa with 3 TD and 1 INT, and he ran for 3 TD.  He threw for 294 with 4 TD and 1 INT against Notre Dame and rushed for 82 and a TD.  He put up 240 in the air and 121 on the ground at Penn State.  He threw for over 500 yards against Indiana while running for 81 and 3 TD.  He threw for 451 against OSU with 4 TD and 0 INT, and added another TD on the ground.

The guy shouldn't be tarnished because he played on a terrible team as a senior and battled through injuries all year long.

 

lilpenny1316

August 21st, 2015 at 5:39 PM ^

...Gardner was better under Borges.  27 for 27 was bad, but we still put up enough points to win the PSU game.  If Gibbons nails a makeable FG or if we just hold on D in the 4th Quarter, we're 7-0 and Borges may have stayed in our good graces for the remainder of the season. A lot of what ifs and maybes as a result of that 2013 PSU game.

not TOM BRADY

August 21st, 2015 at 2:28 PM ^

I'm not saying Gardner is a bad kid or anything. He was beaten down by years of hits. But his play was what it was by the end of his tenure. And it was not up to par with what a Michigan QB should look like. This is also not a shot at Devin. I'm sure he would have flourished under Harbaugh. Better QB play along with better coaching and understanding clock management won't hurt this team as it has killed us in years past. I'm getting more at that, than I am taking shots at Devin.

Dawkins

August 21st, 2015 at 12:33 PM ^

If the players buy in, there's really no limit to what this group can accomplish. The talent and coaching is there. Team chemistry may be lacking since that takes time with a new QB and new system, but we do have a favorable conference schedule this year, so who knows? We aren't going to dominate our rivals and beat them by 3 scores or anything, but those are winable games with the homefield advantage. 

MChem83

August 21st, 2015 at 12:47 PM ^

for proven talent. We've got plenty of the former, but very little of the latter. If you look down our roster, there are no great players, no impact players, nobody who unquestionably projects to first or second team all-conference. Lots of potential, but also a lot of question marks. As far as coaching, that also remains to be seen. Harbaugh has only one top-notch season as a major college coach under his belt, and even the best coaches don't always produce a big turn-around in their first year in a new program. Bottom line, we know what 10-11 win talent looks like, and this team really doesn't have it. Not that you can reasonably project right now. Surprises can happen, but based on PROVEN talent and performance, this is 8 win talent, give or take a game.

billybrown

August 21st, 2015 at 4:24 PM ^

I agree with most of what you're saying but you're nuts if you think Harbaughs coaching skill "remains to be seen". Yes he has only had one elite season but you have to factor in the talent and situation he walked into. Also his success in the nfl is unreal he took a deadass franchise and turned them around immediately. I don't think Michigan is gonna win the conference or anything. I see 8 to 9 wins on the schedule but to doubt Harbaughs coaching acumen is insane.

SpikeFan2016

August 21st, 2015 at 12:29 PM ^

I find it vile that our "best-case" scenario in their eyes involves both Michigan State and Ohio State in the College Football Playoff. 

 

But, alas, I can't read too much into an article put out by a professional journalist with spelling errors. 

Gobgoblue

August 21st, 2015 at 1:21 PM ^

has a shot.  They have a RS Senior QB and some good playmakers on defense.  The game is also at home, as you said.  I still think OSU wins it though since JT Barett has basically a full season under his belt.  

 

OSU is going to steamroll Western, though. 

xtramelanin

August 21st, 2015 at 12:30 PM ^

we are not going to lose 6 games. 

on the flip side, it is not nearly so difficult nor speculative to think that we could meet or exceed that 10 win total.  i wouldn't bet the farm on it, but i'm thinking we'll get pretty close to 10 wins no matter what.

Tuebor

August 21st, 2015 at 12:30 PM ^

Best case scenario 12 regular season wins.

Worst case scenario 0 regular season wins.

 

That being said the 90th percentile range for our record is probably 6 wins to 10 wins.

legalblue

August 21st, 2015 at 12:50 PM ^

It's my drug of choice right now too.  That being said it's not in anyway reasonable to expect that.  Even from a team with proven leaders and capable players at every position an undefeated season is extremely unlikely.  Ask Saban about that.    

In 3 years when this team has proven leaders and capable players at every position we'll be talking about how an 8 win season is the absolute floor and hey maybe if things break just right and Michigan gets a lucky bounce or two they could be holding a National Championshp Trophy come January. 

RIght now 8 wins seems like a darn good season.

Brendan71388

August 21st, 2015 at 12:32 PM ^

I usually like these best/worse case articles, like the one Pat Forde does for March Madness every year. The worst case in this one was a bit extreme. Not the 6-6 possibility, but the submarine stuff.