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Bobby Hurley

Nuf sed

Kentucky

Indiana to name a couple others

Grayson Allen was hated

Because he was a dirty player.

9 now

Though that seems like a huge jump for one game

I'd be much happier

if they were giving them a chance to lie even more about it and dig the hole even deeper. Then when they actually release what's on the tapes, it's a slam dunk.

Why not keep up the lie?

They'd rather win the games and maybe a championship now, even if they have to "vacate" them later.

Lie, lie some more, deny, then lie some more and hope like hell you're not one of the ones they have on tape.

And I'm sure they'll say

Yes, we were offered money for him to go to Duke, but we turned it down and he went there anyway.

Riiiiiight!

It would be

Cincinnati is very overrated, and hasn't beaten any strong teams. I would love to play them in the second round.

People tend to forget

That seeding is based on games you've played all season, not just on how you're playing in the two weeks before the tournament.

Or an injury

that won't heal itself by the time the real tournament starts.

I will bet the smallest of

my three testicles that we don't go 5-7 this year.  

"Special"

meaning what, precisely?

Sorry to break it to you

But the last decade is not the standard we want to be measuring ourselves against. Ever.

Harbaugh was brought in to win championships, and three years in, he's not even close, and moving in the wrong direction to boot. How many 9-3-ish seasons with losses to OSU are you willing to tolerate before you concede that we can do better? 5? 6? 7?

Unfortunately, it will be too late by then

If 2018 is another 8-4 bust, how long after a purge of offensive coaches will it be before the new guys can bring things up to speed?  At least two years, and probably more like 3-4 to get a decent Oline developed.  Harbaugh won't survive that, especially if we're losing to OSU and MSU every year.

Unless last year was a huge anomaly, and we prove that right off the bat in 2018, Harbaugh is toast.  He'll probably get a fifth year regardless of how things go in 2018, but if he can't make a championship team out of the talent he has back this year, there will be no keeping the wolves from the door.

If it wasn't disappointing

that was only because expectations were adjusted downward signifcantly very early on in the process.

Gloom and doom?  We started off 19-3 under Harbaugh.  We're 9-8 since, and have seen our biggest rivals out-coach and out-recruit us badly.  Harbaugh and his staff have shown no ability to develop either a QB or an offensive line, (which they were supposed to be the best at, and without which we won't be winning much of anything for the forseeable future).  There was absolutely nothing about the look and feel of Michigan football over the past year that gave the impression of a program on the rise to national championship status.  Or even Big Ten Eastern Division championship status.  Things just seem to be floundering.  People no longer feel like we're going to win simply because Harbaugh is here.

No need to worry about their schedule

Just win the games we should, and it won't matter what anyone else does.

Always liked Oklahoma 1976 with the wishbone

 Billy Sims, David Overstreet, Kenny King, and Thomas Lott at QB.

You're reading that wrong

He will play, but not start, certainly not game 1

We should not be going for shutouts

Keeping our starters in on D deep into the fourth quarter of a blowout just to keep the other team off the board completely is a mistake. We need to keep our starters from getting worn down, and get as many newer guys PT as possible, in preparation for next year. Yeah, shutouts are cool, and they get you some buzz, but there's no REAL benefit to winning 42-0 instead of 42-7.

I'm still not convinced that Harbaugh didn't overuse our first string D last year in trying to preserve shutouts. Right after that third shutout was when our defensive performance started to tank.

Meyer won a national championship

with his third string QB killing it. And that was in a year when his team was supposed to be too young, and a year away, talent-wise. Nuf sed. When Harbaugh does that with even his first stringer, then there can be a discussion.

Probably not unless at least one guy ahead of him

gets hurt. Even if he jumps everyone except O'Korn and Speight, You don't burn a redshirt so that a QB can play as a third stringer. By the time we'd be putting our third QB in, the game would no longer be in doubt, and we could let our fourth or fifth stringer hand the ball off a few times.

I can easily see all of those guys

except maybe Smith getting jumped in the depth chart. If Walker is any good at all, he will definitely play. Good RBs don't redshirt, especially when there's not much talent ahead of them.

There actually was a reason

for the three second rule..once. But you had to have started watching college bball in the early 70s to appreciate it.

As far as excessive time outs, give each team two per half, period, no carry over. Coaches would have to do more coaching in practice.

Sorry, but the "your wife or girlfriend" question

is entirely appropriate.  It's asking whether the person actually believes the behavior was acceptable on principle, or is whether they're just being a weasel and minimizing it in the case at hand because it doesn't impact anyone they know.   That scenario is certainly not one where they should "recuse" themselves..just the opposite.  It's a situation where you know damn well they'd have a strong opinion.

You know what, though

Sandusky was sick. Guys like Paterno, Schiano and who knows how many others, KNEW BETTER and still did nothing.

Unfortunately, he is another example

Of a highly rated recruit taking too long to develop, to the point where we only get one really decent year out of them, if that. That's got to end, starting this year.

Three things struck me at random

He has us starting 2 TEs and no FB. Not sure if he has an actual source for that, but it wouldn't surprise me, at least some of the time. We've got tons more talent at TE.

We've still got a LOT of room for improvement on TO margin. Our D took away very few fumbles last year. If we could get to the +5-10 range, that would be a big difference.

Our depth chart at S scares the shit out of me. I suppose if Thomas got hurt, Peppers could slide over, but we're not much better off at LB if he vacates that spot. Looking at what he's got listed, after our starters, we fall off a cliff. Better hope hard for Kinnel and Hudson to come along fast.

With Meyer at OSU, it pretty much always does

If we have to cross our fingers that a lot of his recruits bomb in order for us to compete with them, that doesn't say much for our program.

Dantonio could out-coach and out-develop Hoke or Rodriguez

And win with lower ranked recruits.  Harbaugh is not going to outcoach Meyer.  At best he will be even-up with him as far as player development and game coaching, so if he's getting talent that's a notch below OSU's, there's no clear way he's going to make up that gap and keep us from looking up at the Buckeyes pretty much every year.  He needs to be recruiting step for step with them, and so far, he's not even close.  

A name that some folk here find cooler

Other than that, not much at this point

As noted, he's getting a lot of the same hype

that Canteen was three years ago. Very quick, great route-runner, etc. But Canteen's career has been hampered not by position switches, but by just not being very good, despite the hype.

Nothing wrong with it

We're lacking a returning starter at QB, we have a not-too-talented Oline that's thin to boot, and no #1 caliber RB.  If all you're doing is projecting before the season starts and not going by any actual games, those are significant flaws.

And not that it matters.  If we beat PSU and Wisconsin at home, as we should if we're even the 12th best team in the country, we'll start off 7-0 and be solidly in the top 10, maybe top 5.  Which again won't matter, because we'll make or break our season based on how we do against Sparty, Iowa and OSU.

Agreed

As a major college coach, he's had only one 10+ win regular season, and no conference championships, let alone national championships.  That's not much of a resume.  At best, he is a very distant third, and you'd have a hard time convincing me that his accomplishments to this point exceed Dantonio's or Stoops'.

Most likely it will be 2018 or 2019

Before we have an offensive line that is deep, talented and experienced. For 2016, I'd settle for the experience we have, modest improvement in run blocking, and good health, so that depth is not such a problem.

Expecting a championship level Oline this year is not realistic, but as long as injuries don't tear us up, it should be good enough, with everything else we have, for a 10 win season.

Harbaugh's success at Stanford is highly overblown

He had one season that could be considered great or even close to it, and did that with the help of a potential NFL hall of famer in Andrew Luck. He never won a single conference championship there. He didn't stick around long enough to prove he could win consistently (which means having a great season, then having another one three or four years later, with essentially all new talent).

Not sure why you think that

In the first place, the scheme that is laid out here is not a binding commitment on the prospect. It states quite clearly that it is not. Under that system, the prospect can withdraw his commitment at any time, for no reason. The commitment IS binding on the school, as long as the prospect does not officially visit another school. The only thing I would add is that the prospect should not be allowed to have any contact with a representative of another school after he signs the non-binding LOI, whether the school OR the prospect initiates it.

This undoubtedly would not be a 100% perfect system in practice (nothing is), but it would have the advantage that schools would not be so quick to offer players that they only want as placeholders until someone better comes along (since they would no longer be able to yank offers for no reason), and schools in exchange would not have to put up with players taking up a safe space on their commitment lists while other programs continue to aggressively recruit them. They would be much more assured that, if a player did decide to pull his commitment, it would be because he and his family decided on their own that that school was not the right place, not because some other coach was whispering lies in his ear.

Talk is great

And I know it gives all the fanboys here a woodie, but it's also cheap. Unless Harbaugh starts getting it done on the field (starting this year, not in 3 or 4 years), it will quickly be dismissed with a yawn, as mere bluster. He can toss all the barbs he wants at Saban, but at the end of the day, Saban is the one with conference titles and NCs all over his resume.

The sad thing is

that there are no great teams anywhere on this list. All of them had at least two losses and tons of "if onlys" that elite teams never have to resort to. 2003 and 2006 were probably the best in that stretch, but both of them were exposed as considerably less than great in bowl games by USC teams that were head-and-shoulders above them in terms of talent, athleticism and coaching.

If Harbaugh is going to show anything better, he'll have to put at least 11-1 on the board this year. No excuses.

You're exactly right

9-3 is a fair and accurate reflection of how good this team was last year. An elite team wins the Utah and MSU games without excuses, and at least makes a game of it against OSU.

Nope..entirely possible

Gedeon, McCray and half of Peppers as a hybrid is not a cringe-inducing group by any means, despite no real starting experience at LB. If they all stay healthy, that's definitely more athleticism than Bolden, Ross and Morgan. If Bush can work in as a decent backup, we'll be ok, though probably not great.

I'd bet my 401k on us going over 9.5

Mostly because if they only win 9 again this year, I'd have to kill myself anyway.

And I'd go double or nothing against anyone who thinks OSU will go 8-4

Smith had 753 yards last year

6 TDs and. 4.2 ypc average over a 13 game season . That's less than 60 ypg, and he only had three games over a hundred yards out of 13. That's not a "monster", sorry. On an OSU, an Alabama, a Clemson, a Michigan State, that's your #2 back. He's a hard runner who gets tough yards, but a 4.2 ypc average shows that he is definitely not making up for a lack of speed with strength and determination. Bottom line, we need a better back as our #1 option if we're going to compete for championships.

No excuses this year

We've got guys who have been in the program for a long time, not like Rudock, who had to start right after he stepped on campus. No excuse for our starting QB taking 6 or 7 games to find his groove this year.

Not sure what this "bevy" of talented RBs is

We have one good, but not great back in Smith, and that's about it as far as proven talent goes. Smith is fine, but he's really a number 2 back, talent wise. Johnson has some pop, but is injury prone, and Isaac has shown nothing.

Our Oline is only "experienced" at being mediocre. We have new starters at the two most important positions on the line, the other three starters are perennial journeymen, and we have zero depth. We were lucky enough to keep our starting group intact last year, but if anyone goes down this year, it will put a big crimp in whatever offense we have.

Who people THINK is the better coach

doesn't mean jack shit.  Nor does your opinion.  Only what happens on the field and in the win column matters.  Dantonio is far ahead of Harbaugh where it counts.  

Not sure what you've been watching

Dantonio has five 11 win seasons in his last six years.  Harbaugh has one 11 win season as a major college coach.  Dantonio has won three conference championships in the last six years.  Harbaugh never won a conference championship at Stanford or here.  Dantonio went into Columbus without his starting QB and beat OSU last year.  Harbaugh got pantsed by Urban Meyer by 28 at home.    Head to head, Dantonio's team outgained Harbaugh's 386-230 and 20-10 in first downs.  Harbaugh and his team let up before the game was over.  Dantonio and his team never stopped fighting.  That's not "luck".  

Only a moron would argue that Harbaugh is a better coach.

The point is

do we have no hope of finding anyone better than him to fill that slot any time between now and signing day?  If we don't, then it doesn't say much for Harbaugh's recruiting skill.  Or for our chances of competing on a level playing field with OSU any time before he bolts back to the NFL.

Why?

Why are we spending yet another scholarship on a 3 star project that people have to make up all kinds of tortured arguments to justify? The 2017 class is already full of them.  Every time we sign a 3 star, OSU signs a 4 star.  That's a losing trend.

Recruiting at that level is dirty as hell

If you're claiming that Kentucky is lily-white, the fail is yours.

Waste of electrons

Online petitions are so cute...so are the people who sign them. It's like praying...it lets people think they're doing something, without requiring them to actually do something.