Goldenrod Mandude

December 21st, 2021 at 3:14 PM ^

This is dumb and I’m tired of hearing it.  Yes.  Vaccinated people can get Covid and get sick.  Unvaccinated people can get Covid and die and also teach the virus how to continue to infect and mutate so it continues unabated.  Oh….and the unvaccinated get the virus in MUCH higher numbers.

You are entitled to your opinion, but this take is dumb.

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Michigan4Harbaugh

December 21st, 2021 at 6:31 PM ^

As I said, it's a damn shame that we are in this position at all. This didn't just miraculously happen out of thin air. In defense of the unvaxxed, why does no one talk about the thousands who have died from the shots. More people have died from this vaccine in the last year, than from any other vaccines in the last 20 years. The millions who have been injured from the shots. Myocarditis, pericarditis, blood clots, tremors, paralysis, stomach and GI tract injury, Guillian Barre syndrome, on and on people need to give some substance to the unvaxxed discussion. 

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EastCoast Esq.

December 22nd, 2021 at 11:41 AM ^

FYI I responded to your question about rape survivors joking about their trauma. First Google result...

https://www.elitedaily.com/p/kelly-bachmans-rape-jokes-by-survivors-comedy-show-addressed-trauma-with-humor-19313668


From that article:

When she started writing comedy about her experiences, her mindset shifted. “The moment I decided to perform and talk about [it], that kind of ripped down my barriers around that shame,” Gollapudi says. “Like, you can’t laugh at me if I’m laughing at it first.” Sharing her trauma was a way to reclaim her story, and to acknowledge that other people can relate to what she’s gone through.

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blue in dc

December 21st, 2021 at 5:41 PM ^

Getting covid and getting hospitalized or dying from Covid are very different things.   If you are vaccinated and boosted, you are much less likely to get a severe case of covid or die.    Thats the truth.  Just stating the facts.

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WoodyBlue

December 21st, 2021 at 3:08 PM ^

That's assuming the push for vaccination has anything to do with health and well-being.  It does not, and for that reason it will always be with us (at least until the current Democratic totalitarian regime gets run out of town).  But hey, as always, thanks for following the science.....yah sheep!

 

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WoodyBlue

December 22nd, 2021 at 9:27 AM ^

Always nice to hear from a DC Elitist.  The doomsday mentality is so played out. Omicron is not killing anybody.  Sniffles, a cough and a heightened immunity is all they're coming away with. But no, since you can't shit without permission from Biden and some type of existential threat hanging over your head, let's go ahead and pretend it's the Black Plague.  Sack up, wuss.

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michgoblue

December 21st, 2021 at 3:21 PM ^

Cornell is 99% vaccinated. They just had a 1500 person outbreak forcing the school to go virtual. Of the 1500 cases, all were vaxxed and 1/3 were boosted. Note that I am strongly pro vaccine and vaccinated myself, but to ignore the fact that tons and tons of people who are vaxxed and boosted are getting Covid these days and revise the old “if people just vaxxed, there would be no Covid” line undermines vaccines.  The more accurate statement, in my view, is as follows: COVID is here to stay. We are not eradicating it and it is now at a stage of becoming endemic. We need to learn to live with it and in that regard, we have tools to help us do that. The best tool is the vaccine. If you are fully vaxxed and boosted, you may still get Covid, although there is data that you have a lower chance of doing so, but if you do, statistically, you are many times less likely to become severely ill. 

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Wendyk5

December 21st, 2021 at 4:33 PM ^

The problem isn't one contained geographical area; it's that we can't vaccinate the world quickly enough. If we could vaccinate every single person on the planet, we could (or could've) contained this by essentially creating a wall of immunity. As long as people somewhere remain unvaccinated, there's a chance new variants will develop. There's obviously a huge benefit to being vaccinated with not a lot of downside but somehow this has become a political issue and people are falling on their swords for it. I hope you're right about this becoming endemic and my hope is that the crazy transmissibility of Omicron will get us there with as little death and serious disease as possible. But in the meantime, another variant could crop up.....

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blue in dc

December 21st, 2021 at 6:01 PM ^

Sopwiith didn’t say people would not get covid if they were vaccinated.   He said it would not be a story.   If everyone who could be was vaccinated and boosted, as you noted, many less people would be going to hospitals and dying.   If less people were going to hospitals and dying, we wouldn’t be doing things like canceling sporting events.   If hospitals were not overwhelmed, less people were dying and things like sporting events were not being canceled, Covid would not be in the news,

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Qmatic

December 21st, 2021 at 12:54 PM ^

Omicron is so damn transmissible this will be more frequent in the coming months. Probably through February it’s gonna wipe through populations. Thankfully the vaccine seems to continue to keep down hospitalization and thankfully this variant doesn’t seem to make it to the lungs as easily

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MottNP

December 21st, 2021 at 1:24 PM ^

Tell me you’re a Walmart Wolverine, without telling me you’re a Walmart Wolverine 

(whatever with the downvotes. I’m so fng sick of watching the death and destruction at the hospital and then seeing comments like this.  I’m so over the anti-vaxxers, anti-maskers, COVID deniers.  Some idiot behind me at the last game yelled LGB all game and complained constantly about having to wear her mask.  Don’t like the rules? Don’t come)

 

COVID isn’t a joke. And it’s killing young people and I’m sick of it 

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MottNP

December 21st, 2021 at 3:30 PM ^

If that’s the case, I apologize. 
 

something about the snark in this reply leads me to believe my first impression was correct though.  Yes I’m stressed. Beyond stressed.  I’m sick of seeing the young moms on ECMO 

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