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Does anybody really know what time it is?
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Nobody cared when Saban hired Butch Jones. So much of our moral outrage (mine included) stems from what media covers or won't cover. It's weird.
I mean, I don't like that this man is coaching kids again. At the same time, I didn't read any of the report on the actual investigation the independent law firm performed on the Baylor program. I read a few media reports, got mad, then probably came over to MGoBlog to re-read a Friday recruiting summary.
Uh the distinction between Butch Jones is immense. Brokers oversaw a culture that tolerated repeated gang rapes.
There were some similar reports--although much less documented than at Baylor--that Butch Jones at least tolerated (and perhaps encouraged) some Tennessee players to bully and threaten a teammate who was going to vouch for a woman reporting a gang rape by several Tennessee players.
I'm not sure of the frequency of those events at Tennessee vs. Baylor, but once the gang rape toleration count ticks above zero, they're all the same in my book.
Hard to read an oral report that was never transcribed. Baylor arranged it that way to protect themselves. They just made a short summary available.
The media covered Baylor because of criminal cases involving players Briles didn't discipline and/or covered up for, lawsuits against the school, the NCAA issuing a ten year show cause order, Briles, and the AD getting fired. The media didn't choose to cover that story. They had no choice.
A lot of people took Butch Jones and Alabama to task for his actions, but clearly people in control don't much care. I 100% believe that if JoePa was still alive someone would have hired him to be a coach.
Based on his last few years, Joe Pa wouldn’t have been able to find his way to a new university to take up coaching even if they wanted him to.
Maybe the town is so small and isolated, they really know nothing about Art...
I am now picturing him trying to teach football to the inhabitants of north sentinel island and hoping the general result when outsiders show up remains the same
small towns, certainly, but I assure that also a good number of Ann Arborites know absolutely nothing about art
Their press release emphasizes that Briles was never charged with a recruiting violation.
That's a relief. That would have made him a terrible choice to mentor their students. They offered no comments on what Briles actually did to get a ten year show cause order from the NCAA.
This is a big win for Mount Vernon. They really had to go strong to outbid the offer to be MSU's offensive coordinator.
Ouch!
On a serious note, if a top notch OC was available, would Dantonio ever fire an assistant to make room for him?
I don't think so. And I don't know if MSU could afford a top-notch offensive coordinator. They would have to get an up-and-comer or a less sought after type.
I'm glad I was all alone in my office when I read that. If co-workers were around, they'd have wondered what got into me to burst out laughing while sitting at my desk.
“… and if a few of our daughters get raped along the way to a State Championship, that’s the cost of victory.”
~ Texas fathers, apparently
and their sons to become rapists
Ummm, not this texas father of a daughter.
I couldn't think of a better guy to lead impressionable high school kids.
I’m outraged.
When do you do press releases for things you hope no one will notice or respond to— late Friday afternoon on a holiday weekend.
I had the unfortunate evening where I had to listen to Mr Briles give a keynote address at a coaching clinic. The other unfortunate thing was that it was hosted by one Jim Harbaugh and UM Football. He was a “good shit Jed” coach in 2016 before all that rapey stuff came out.
Wow... I read about 30 of the tweets on the linked page, and one of them actually supported Briles and said he was screwed by Baylor. Some people just live in Neverland. I guess some people don't care about their daughters.
Speaking of daughters, I've seen a defense of Briles' saying that he has a wife and daughters, so of course he would have the best interests of women in mind (kind of like the racist who couldn't possibly be racist because he has a black friend). Also, there's this gem on his Wikipedia page (and I've seen people use something similar as a defense of Briles as well)
"Briles is a staunch churchgoer and has put forward his faith as an influence on his coaching."
Sad, but true as people still let their daughters go to staee.
Sky lo lo just had a growth spurt.
If there was going to be a high school that could, in one go, not only hire a reviled and disgraced coach but almost master the art of the news dump while practicing nonchalance about the PR implications of such a hire, it would be a high school in Texas.
When I was in law school, one of my (revered) professors wrote a song parody of "The Yellow Rose of Texas" that had the following:
A loyal son of Texas
One night went on a spree,
Committing seven murders,
Some rape and burglary;
The jury sentenced him to the electric chair, of course,
But the reason why they fried him was the bastard stole a horse.
Yeah, because I definitely want to put highly impressionable high school kids around a man who knowingly stood by and allowed his football players to rape young women.....
That’s a stain on this school that will never be washed away.
Not surprised
He should never have a job where people report to him and he has to make tough decisions. He’s proven he cannot make the ethical one. He should also never be able to have a job around young people.
cant beat those friday night police lights
texas (penitentiary) forever
It was only a matter of time. He'll be back in college someday down the road.
There’s no such thing as “small” when it comes to Texas high school football. That’s an insane release (and process) regarding your next high school football coach, where the high school consists of a mere 450 students.
I always assumed he'd get another crack, but I figured it would be some mediocre college team. A HS team taking a run with him, though, seems weird, especially in a city with under 3,000 residents.
I don't think he should be coaching football ever again in such a capacity, especially HS kids. But long ago I gave up hope that people actually cared about holding people accountable beyond the absolute minimum required for your attention.
The worst mistake we make on this count is probably to assume that what Art Briles did is notably worse than what the average collegiate coach privately considers defensible.
The only reason hes not coaching FBS football right now is the negative PR shitstorm that would follow.
Art Briles might be one of the best offensive minds out there...and in a win at all cost world - note that a near or maybe even outright majority on this forum is OK with cheating to win - that will trump ethical concerns.