Allow Seniors To Play Another Year?
Seems like there may be a little of a push to allow seniors another year of eligibility and basically allow schools to have a year of more scholarships than traditionally allotted.
I have mixed feelings. Great for kids like Teske, Simpson, Stevens, Winston, Powell, etc. They are, understandably, not allowed to try to fulfill their senior year dreams. Huge bummer.
On the other hand, is it fair? Also, the kids got to play 95%+ of their games.
Thoughts?
No
We need Teske and Simpson in the war vs Randall Flagg
Is Flagg the Man in Black?
Yes he is.
March 13th, 2020 at 11:17 AM ^
You may also have heard of him referred to as the Dark Man or the Walkin' Dude or simply R.F.
Another great subtle joke plus literary reference that would never be understood on the RCMB.
Nice...
March 13th, 2020 at 12:11 PM ^
haha, yeah those idiots. I totally got it right away and did not have to look it up on google. Randall Flagg hahaha.
You believe me right guys?....Right?
Funny I just posted "O Fortuna" on the Hopkins forum, everyone got the reference. Now I'm laughing as a whole bunch of Michigan grads will go google it.
ROFLMAO
lulz
We've got guys already fighting the fight
Stu (Redman) Douglass
Nic(k Andros) Stauskas
Sparty can provide Tom Cullen. Lots of candidates available...
Larry Underwood wants to know, Baby, Can you dig your man?
March 12th, 2020 at 10:04 PM ^
He’s a righteous man.
Unpopular opinion: The Stand would have been a much better book without Randall Flagg. It was just a strange addition to the story. There's lots of things he could've done without having this random supernatural demonic presence wreaking havoc on an already ravaged world.
I 100% agree. Stephen King always gets a 10/10 for the first 30% of the book, and that's when it usually starts to get bad.
March 12th, 2020 at 10:05 PM ^
Absolutely. He was a little cartoony at times.
Also, The Stand would have been a WORSE movie without Kareem.
March 12th, 2020 at 10:15 PM ^
I've said this for years. 500 pages were classic, 500 pages were goofy AF.
March 12th, 2020 at 10:31 PM ^
So apparently the original edition was about half the length. When fans found out they demanded the "uncut" version, which is what is now available to buy in stores and on eReaders, which is what it is now. If you read the foreword, King kinda hints that it wasn't a huge change from the original but he was reluctant to publish it. So, I do kinda wonder what the book would be like if it weren't 1,100ish pages.
March 12th, 2020 at 11:32 PM ^
Everyone I've encountered who has read both versions prefers the uncut edition.
March 13th, 2020 at 11:28 AM ^
Amazing plot and character development and then Randall Flagg saves the Trashcan Man from The Kid with a pack of wolves...just gets weirder from there on out.
March 13th, 2020 at 12:05 AM ^
I've never thought about that but you're absolutely right. Keeping his character would have been fine without the supernatural element. Just have him be a bad dude.
March 12th, 2020 at 10:14 PM ^
YOU SCREWED UP, BOBBY TERRY! YOU SCRROOOOOED UP!
Probably not.
The seasons were completed.
The post season was only affected.
It sucks, but no. They played an entire regular season. The postseason is never guaranteed for anyone.
Spring 2020 seniors yes. Anyone else no.
Fall and winter sports annually have only one national champion. Unfortunately this year there will not be a team champ in any sport.
There's also no basketball champion in 2013, so there's that.
This goes so far beyond basketball too.
Think of Michigan Baseball and Michigan Softball. Both teams were about to play their home opener tomorrow and now the seniors won't ever get to play a game there again?
NCAA has made exceptions before for outstanding circumstances such as freshmen being eligible during World War II.
For baseball & softball this makes sense.
If this happened end of August everybody would be for extending eligibility for football.
No, there is no real push for this. The idea is unrealistic and stupid.
6.8.0Are you changing the number that appears under your comments or is it going up automatically? This has been one of the more fascinating things to watch on this board.
March 12th, 2020 at 10:18 PM ^
Tony Paul from Twitter tonight...
"I've been told that, YES, the NCAA higher-ups have discussed ways to get seniors extra year of eligibity. Many in favor, but it's very complicated -- cuz then you're red-shirting a whole group of freshmen, and it creates ripple effect on down the line. But it's being discussed."
Manuel came out and said it "absolutely" should be considered. So, yes - this is a real discussion.
“Yeah, absolutely I think we should talk about it,” Manuel said. “I actually was thinking about it this morning in terms of a waiver process or an extension, but it is complicated, right? You have basketball teams that have played 90-95 percent of their season or more. Do those seniors get an extra year? Do the spring seasons get an extra year?
It's more of an NCAA thing of letting schools go over 13 scholarships for basketball.
Some teams have already finished their season before the tournaments were canceled (MSU Hockey, ND Hockey, Northwestern & Nebraska basketball). I feel horrible for guys like Simpson & Teske but how can you justify giving an extra year to guys on teams whose seasons were already ended?
Spring sports is another story. Baseball team played only 15 games this year. In 2018 they played 52 games in the regular season. But that presents additional issues since it wouldn't be fair to only give Seniors an extra year of eligibility.
I could understand for softball or baseball that are 20 percent into seasons but for basketball or swimming or wrestling I think it’s just going to suck for them. Do it based off the redshirt rule for injury, if your sport played more than 25% of the games you don’t get another year
Not for winter sports that are completed or close enough. It's tough but it doesn't make sense to trade a whole extra year just because they missed out on a couple tournaments.
On the other hand, I think for spring sports all players should be granted an extra year, not just seniors. I don't know what the impact on scholarships, recruits, etc. will be, but someone can figure that out. Treat this as a redshirt year.
Play all the seasons starting late June or July if we seem to have life back under control and we are heading in the right direction. As long as we gain an understanding of what we are up against and know this would not be counterproductive to the cause then let the kids play.
I'm for it for spring sports but not any winter sports.
They’re missing out on two guaranteed games, that’s it. No way.
March 12th, 2020 at 11:23 PM ^
Huh?
You're thinking of only basketball. It's bigger than basketball. Think of baseball, softball, etc.
OP was specifically discussing basketball. General consensus is that spring sports should get an extra year. But that comes with its own set of challenges (roster limits, scholarship limits, Title IX)
Nah. They're just missing tournaments. They played a full season.
March 12th, 2020 at 10:03 PM ^
Spring sports, absolutely.
March 12th, 2020 at 10:07 PM ^
In basketball their aren’t enough minutes for a 16 man rotation. It would be clunky. A better option is somehow expanding the g league or something for a year. Or maybe create an independent tournament made up of teams with alumni from each school. There’s already a 3 on 3 version of this.
March 12th, 2020 at 10:14 PM ^
This is stupid...
March 12th, 2020 at 10:50 PM ^
No way. Iowa and Purdue will field a lineup full of 7th year seniors all over 6'10"
March 12th, 2020 at 10:51 PM ^
I love the references to one of my top 3 books
March 12th, 2020 at 11:04 PM ^
Definitely not for winter sports. They played the full season.
But even for spring athletes this would be difficult. I think people forget that most of these kids won't go on to play sports professionally. So, you grant them an extra year of eligibility. They're supposed to postpone their lives another year while doing what? Taking electives? Getting an unplanned Masters' degree. It's March. Many of them may already have post-grad jobs lined up. Or be set to enroll in medical school in September. There are a lot of plans made surrounding the end of senior year.
March 12th, 2020 at 11:10 PM ^
Spring sports yes, winter no. Spring sports didn’t get to play many games winter was pretty much done, they just missed their tourney.
March 13th, 2020 at 12:24 AM ^
Sounds great to be fair - It came from a nice feeling.
It just look so difficult... Near impossible to implement.
If you decide that this year does not count for the senior. How can you ruled out other players?
It would impact their playing times over the next few seasons.
Why not - if possible - Having a "summer league" for some of the spring sports with a lighter schedule? after all.
After, if you thinking of Z, Teske, solely on Basketball.
It just sounded "off" to finish the season that way. They did got their senior night and have been celebrated at Crisler. Not the same mind you than playing in a NBA stadium or a Football stadium.
-> Maybe something comparable to a Jubilee? Why not.