600 kids have already signed up for the Paramus Camp - 200 more than the original capacity.
and that's with them already having to raise capacity by 200 spots due to demand (the original cap filled up in 8 days)
The full story (with an obligitory Freep link warning): http://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverine…
If you don't want to click on that, I guess I'll copy and paste the full thing:
I'm laughing my Ash off!
I know, right. What an ash-hole. Guy announces his camp as the same day as Michigan's, then downplays any competitiveness.
That is not exactly a spine of steel, boy.
You can't spell asshole without a-s-h. I am also curious where all the top Jersey kids we are crootin' will be camping. Anyone?
..."isn't that right, Trebek?"
Michigan already has everyone they want at their camp. Ash can do what he wants, but he isn't going to affect Harbaugh's camp in the least. All Ash is going to get are a bunch of wannabes who may be good enough to play at Generic Directional State College.
His camp will be reminiscent of Sparty: a bunch of kids who couldn't get into Michigan's camp.
Are there any reports of how many kids have registered for the Junior Varsity camp with Ash?
601. Reported by Rutgers
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100,274, per Dave Brandon.
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Too soon
just citing the Domino Theory........
Unless it's over 600 I don't think they will release that info.
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I thought that we were against oversigning? Some of these kids grey shirting?
Hopefully this will teach Ash a valuable lesson.
You come at the king, you best not miss
Avon? Marlow?
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Omar
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Ah yes...
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Phone edit: I suppose Stringer would know!
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Omar comin' for sure.
Stands alone..
If I don't see a thousand kid camp next year being held at some massive athletic venue with 6 fields, I will be mildly upset
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Ash is as bad at lying as he is at planning a football camp.
Is this like the Cold War arm race? Is there a satellite camp gap? Can Ash see the big board? If I knew how, I'd insert a picture from Dr. Strangelove.
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If the NCAA does end up limiting camps I can't wait to see the four or five mega-camps Harbaugh puts on.
If you're gonna be a bear, be a grizzly. Harbaugh doesn't fuck around. Competing with him is just stupid no matter what the game. I guess we know how to draw. I love that we're this loved by the younger generation. We've instantly become cool again.
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Driving up I-79 in West Virginia tonight, I was listening to WVU Sports Radio. The topic was the summer recruiting camps. They mentioned "Michigan" and "Jim Harbaugh" about a dozen times.
The middle of West Virginia ... WVU = Big 12 ... and the focus is Michigan.
Ha.
A beautiful place to drive through. Just as long as the car never stops moving for any reason.
If you're low on gas in those mountains you're basically guaranteed to stop at a terrifying station.
And waaaay overpay. If I drive that way when going back home to flint from VA, I always fill up right before I hit the border and can usually make it all the way thru to Ohio without stopping.
to buy gas in Ohio. Just doesn't seem right.
Birds fly around that state on their migration each year
You are from Flint and you are scared in WV? Even the water in Flint is more dangerous than anything in WV.
Google West Virginia water crises. Flints water is not more dangerous.
I Googled it and studies do not indicate what you have said to be true. The lead in Flints water is more dangerous by far. And the people are too, studies did indicate that.
There may be some truth to it...but its pretty stupid to look at these Camp Wars as Michigan vs. Rutgers ...or Michigan vs anyone else for that matter. These camps are not about competing vs. other programs over who can do the best camp in that area, on what day etc.
Its about two things: 1) Bringing fun and football to kids in a community and 2) Increasing the exposure and reach of Michigan footbal for recruting.
Anyone who is using this "our camp is better...nya nya na nayaaa naaaaa Ash" etc. is misguided. That includes the muckracking writer for that Rutgers website who keeps stirring this crap up.
Dont buy in to it. Its not worth it. Be happy that JH is extending the reach of Michigan football, and also improving the experience for many HS kids who love the game.
It's not an issue of direct competition, it's a matter of when Harbaugh does something he does it big and he does it better than anyone else. He doesn't get involved unless he can do it right and smashes all expectations in the process. It's more a matter of being best in brand and being synonymous with big things and excitement. That is what attracts kids--whether or not it's about Michigan isn't the point, people are drawn to him and any event he tries to pull off. That will naturally lead to building the brand and the program. He has some serious gravity.
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Harbaugh earned a lot of respect after last year's camp in Easton. He had almost every smaller north east and mid-Atlantic school represented (>2,000 kids and a ton of M fans). Rutgers doesn't stand a chance.
I'd be willing to bet that Harbaugh has a better relationship with high school coaches in New Jersey than Chris Ash does.
Gee. I can't believe the recruits aren't tripping over themselves to go to that camp
I don't know, you could go to that or you could go to the camp with a top 3 college coach (and his entire staff), a top 5 NFL coach, and a guy who has coached some of the best defenses of the last 5 years (and seems to be turning a bad Pitt program around). Tough call.
How did harbaugh get narduzzi to show up?
Id love to hear that conversation.
After he complained about the sanctity of spring break over the IMG deal and being (id assume)a dantonio guy, pitt was definitely the school that stuck out to me.
I'm willing to bet that to most coaches that don't have a long-standing connection to the school (like Harbaugh has), the coaching jobs are just that - jobs. The rivalries also probably stop mattering. Once he moved on to Pittsburgh and doesn't have to deal with Michigan anymore, he probably let bygones be bygones and is willing to work with Harbaugh in a meaningful way.
Rutgers announced they have 5 campers signed up so far...3 of them are kids of Rutgers coaching staff
and they're trying to build their athletic program to be competitive in the B1G. Can't blame them for feeling a little desperate.
Harbaugh actually loves this....he's maniacal about football, can't get enough. While this is recruiting work for other coaches, its ust pure joy for Harbaugh. He would do these camps even if it didn't result in 1 recruit because he believes in football and believes in reaching different communities.
Nobody will ever out-work Harbaugh because he doesn't see this as work. This is what has the SEC and all other big time programs/coaches concerned.
Only way a kid attends Rutgers' camp instead of Michigan's is if he's a legacy or already committed there
If a kid thinks that realistically he's not going to get a top tier B1G offer, but is from NJ and maybe good enough to go to Rutgers, he'd be wise to go to the Rutgers camp. And if a kid just loves OSU for whatever reasons, he might also want to go to the Rutgers camp. And if a lesser-tier college that he's interested in (e.g., D-II) will also be at the Rutgers camp, he might be well-advised to attend that camp.
All of which is just jim-dandy. Michigan will have many players that it wants to see at its camp, and also spread the message of Michigan football to many others. So if a kid wants to go to Rutgers alternative prom, best of luck to them.
And Harbaugh's staff should remind any kid that was torn between camps that he scheduled his first, and it was that twat Ash who decided he would schedule a camp on the same day. It is petulance on the part of Ash, pure and simple, and NJ h.s. coaches should be reminded of that - because some of the best players would likely have benefitted from going to both camps had they been scheduled with kids' interest in mind.