4* DT George Rooks and 4* WR Jayden Thomas committing soon
Jayden Thomas is for sure committing tomorrow. Not in great shape with Thomas after we slowed down his recruitment after Andrel Anthony committed but staff have ramped it up since Markus Allen decommitted. We were leading his recruitment prior to Andrel Anthony so maybe there is a chance. Wouldn't be a huge loss since the WR class looks great but a 4* receiver is always welcome.
George Rooks said he wants to commit before his HS season starts, which would be tomorrow. We have all the crystal balls right now. Should be a priority to seal the deal with Rooks. As class with Rooks and potentially Benny would be huge for our future prospects at DT.
October 1st, 2020 at 11:34 AM ^
We'll see.
October 1st, 2020 at 11:45 AM ^
EJ Holland hasn't been that confident in Rooks($) and thinks a commitment decision is likely to get pushed back. His read on the situation--and I'm extrapolating a bit here--seems to be that Michigan had the edge for a commitment before Oct 2, when his season begins, and that Penn State wants him to wait until December because they're in visitation range and could make up ground in that time. There's a lot more about why he feels that way at the jump.
Holland also sees this recruitment as an up or down test of whether Nua can close, since his recruiting so far has not been what we'd hoped.
October 1st, 2020 at 12:02 PM ^
So we could see a staff change if Rooks and Benny don't come on board?
October 1st, 2020 at 1:47 PM ^
I never really got the Nua hire. Was Arizona State's defensive line that great when he was there? I think Zordich and Nua will be replaced after the season as they are the two weakest recruiters on the staff.
October 1st, 2020 at 1:52 PM ^
Zordich is an excellent coach and they're in on a bunch of elite corners in the next class. I agree they need to do better in corner recruiting but I would be surprised by a move there.
October 1st, 2020 at 3:56 PM ^
Yeah, Zordich has been churning out really good corners for long enough that I'd want him to stick around. This will be the first year where he may need to build guys up, but I would give him a longer leash than Nua.
October 1st, 2020 at 4:40 PM ^
Zordich might be the worst recruiter on staff.
October 1st, 2020 at 5:43 PM ^
He also might be one of the best at actually coaching.
I wouldn't be upset if they made a move with Nua though.
October 1st, 2020 at 6:45 PM ^
Long, Vert, Ambry all were awesome to have. St. Juste and Washington turned into productive P5 starters elsewhere after being blocked at Michigan. Zordich got the best out of Watson and the Hoke 2015/2016 group. Gray is off to a solid start in the Stribling/Clark boundary corner mold.
Just need another dude in the room at any given time IMO. If they can't pull it off in '22 then maybe it's time for that conversation, but it's hard for me to get out the pitchforks and torches on this one.
October 1st, 2020 at 2:02 PM ^
I'm surprised you didn't focus exclusively on Nua's recruiting while at ASU. Because that's all that matters, right?
October 1st, 2020 at 2:06 PM ^
His recruiting was one of the main reasons we got eviscerated by Wisconsin and Ohio State and were playing Ben Mason at DT.
October 1st, 2020 at 2:22 PM ^
HAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh, man. That's funny.
Shaun Nua was hired in mid-January of 2019. How exactly was he supposed to fix the defensive tackle position through recruiting by the 2019 season?
October 1st, 2020 at 2:28 PM ^
He just says stuff.
October 1st, 2020 at 6:46 PM ^
By suiting up himself?
October 1st, 2020 at 2:24 PM ^
so nua, hired in early 2019, was supposed to recruit the talent to immediately impact games vs those teams 8 months later?
if the DL looks poor this fall or fails to develop talent, thats on nua. 2019 depth though? thats mostly on 16-18 classes and brown, mattison and harbaugh
October 1st, 2020 at 3:58 PM ^
I know I just watched Back to the Future recently but this feels like you're trapped in a completely different timeline when it comes to recruiting.
Nua might not be a good coach or a recruiter at UM; getting mad at him for not getting better tackles in 2017 and 2018 feels like a stretch.
October 1st, 2020 at 11:04 PM ^
You realize Nua has only been here for one season and hasn’t had a single one of the guys he’s recruited actually put on a jersey outside of this fall camp right?
October 1st, 2020 at 2:28 PM ^
Dude... Zordich may be the best position coach on staff. No way he gets fired. No way.
October 1st, 2020 at 2:36 PM ^
Zordich could take a literal scarecrow and quarterbacks would only completed 19% of their passes against him. He may not be an excellent recruiter, but every guy he coaches plays like a shutdown corner.
October 1st, 2020 at 2:54 PM ^
Yeah that has been one position that I'm never too concerned about, purely because of Zordich. This year... eh... I really hope the trend continues. Having Ambry back would have helped immensely. Oh well, you roll with what you have.
October 1st, 2020 at 3:00 PM ^
LOL. Zordich isn't going anywhere. He is our best coach.
October 1st, 2020 at 4:42 PM ^
It’s easy coaching highly rated recruits like Jourdan Lewis, David Long, Ambry Thomas, and Lavert Hill. No more top 100 corners on the roster and now they are moving a 5 star safety over because he’s recruited absolutely no one. As far as I’m concerned he needs to pick shit up and fast.
October 1st, 2020 at 5:38 PM ^
Just stop. We've had plenty of "highly rated" recruits not pan out all over the field. At corner, since Zordich came... file not found. You're just grasping, so you don't have to admit being wrong. Stop doing that, it makes people lose respect for you.
October 1st, 2020 at 5:39 PM ^
Found Maizen’s new account
October 1st, 2020 at 4:38 PM ^
I mean, Michigan has signed a total of 4 DL in the last two recruiting classes. Braiden McGregor, Kris Jenkins, Quinten Sommerville, and Dominick Guidice. It begs the question, what the hell is the staff doing? Between this and CB recruiting the wheels are starting to come off on that side of the ball.
October 1st, 2020 at 5:02 PM ^
It's easy to make this point when you forget Jaylen Harrell, Aaron Lewis, Kechaun Bennett, and TJ Guy. If you include them that would make 8 DL which seems a lot more respectable, not to mention that Michigan is still recruiting Rooks and Benny which would be 10 DL in the last 2 years. Lewis transferring out is unfortunate but its understandable that he would want to be closer to home with the current pandemic. As for Harrell and Bennett, you could make the argument that they are LBs, but they are more likely Rush Ends the same way Uche was - playing off the ball if need be but also rushing the passer effectively. And the more they bulk up, the more likely it is that they will playing with their hands on the ground. TJ Guy is a DL all the way. Only question is if he's a SDE or a DT.
October 1st, 2020 at 5:07 PM ^
Aaron Lewis transferred to Rutgers and Jaylen Harrell is a linebacker. Good effort.
October 1st, 2020 at 5:14 PM ^
Harrell is listed as a DL and he's currently "LB" the same way Uche was a "LB". You're effectively splitting time as a DE. Not to mention that Harrell is bigger than Uche and it's more likely when he fills out, that he's a full time DE.
As for Lewis, you were arguing about Michigan not recruiting enough DL. Well they recruited and signed Lewis. He counts. He's only transferring for family reasons.
October 1st, 2020 at 5:19 PM ^
He doesn’t count when he’s not on the team lol.
October 1st, 2020 at 6:03 PM ^
You said signed, ass clown.
And that is still 6 with 2 or 3 more that could sign.
October 1st, 2020 at 7:38 PM ^
Wow 6 whole players! Great, only two more and we might be able to field a two deep! Assclown.
October 1st, 2020 at 11:25 PM ^
Why are you so concerned with filling a two deep with just two classes? You’re crying about 6 guys when this class isn’t even finished? Take a seat bud.
October 1st, 2020 at 6:07 PM ^
Harrell is a standup DE with maybe a little time with his hand in the dirt.
The criterion was “signed” and Lewis definitely fits that category. No one is signed for 2021 so it’s a false standard if we’re debating Rooks, Benny, etc. The 2019 class also had 5 DL, so numbers are not the issue.
Upper class quality is the issue. It’s the lack of a few true DTs that creates the issue - put 1-2 War Daddies on the roster and 1-2 penetrating 3Ts and the issue is moot.
October 1st, 2020 at 11:10 PM ^
Dude, what fucking recruiting classes are you looking at? This is the second different post I’ve seen you make this dumb ass statement.
Jaylen Harrell, Aaron Lewis (transferred), Kechaun Bennett, And TJ Guy. All DL commits in the past two classes that somehow aren’t on your list. And that doesn’t include Benny or Rooks, two DL recruits we’re still after in this class.
You just want to keep twisting the words to fit your shitty narrative. Guess what? Every single player in 2020 and 2021 class, will be a true freshman next season. So fudge the numbers all you want, it’s a combined class. Call Harrell a linebacker all you want. Don’t count Lewis because he transferred all you want. That’s still 6 DL recruits who will be true freshmen next season. Another 5 in the 2019 class. Of all the possible criticisms you could have here, you completely missed the boat on this. And it’s really sad to see you desperately grasping to hold onto the point. Take the L. It’s a shit take.
October 1st, 2020 at 12:00 PM ^
I don't think we ever "led" for Jayden Thomas.
October 1st, 2020 at 12:03 PM ^
My bad, I could have sworn that we held crystal balls for him at some point this summer.
October 1st, 2020 at 3:01 PM ^
I think we were up there but he was never a sure thing or anything like that.
October 1st, 2020 at 12:25 PM ^
Rooks is one of the most important recruits for us in this class. Really hoping Nua can pull it off but have some skepticism.
October 1st, 2020 at 12:40 PM ^
One of the most important in this class ... yes. But of the remaining 3, i would put an order of...
1) Edwards
2) Benny
3) Rooks
Oddly enough, it is probably more important to land at least one of Benny/Rooks than Edwards. CANNOT strike out with both DT's.
October 1st, 2020 at 1:04 PM ^
Yep, Edwards would easily be the most dynamic player in the class but the running back room looks good with or without him.
October 1st, 2020 at 3:03 PM ^
1) Knights
2) Rooks
3) Bishops
October 1st, 2020 at 7:18 PM ^
Marcus Knights?
Joey Bishops?
Got nothing for Rooks.
I do have Avery Queen, however
October 1st, 2020 at 2:10 PM ^
Why just Nua, Brown and Harbaugh should know the importance of landing these guys and be all over them to the end!
I'm getting into the camp that nua isn't getting it done tbh.
October 1st, 2020 at 5:05 PM ^
Nua started January 2019, i.e. less than 2 years. He's had one recruiting class, last year, and he pulled in what many said was the most important recruit of the class, Braiden McGregor. The 2021 class is far from over and he has already pulled in Quinten Somerville. Meanwhile, Rooks and Benny are likely to go our way with 100% of CBs pointing to us. Patience, please.
October 1st, 2020 at 12:43 PM ^
Should be fun! COVID has made recruiting weird this year but hopefully not in a negative way in the coming future with these guys
October 1st, 2020 at 1:40 PM ^
I'm starry eyed.
October 1st, 2020 at 2:39 PM ^
Also keep an eye on 4*CB Omarion Cooper is is committed to Florida State. Sam is saying that he is a legit flip possibility. Michigan is still recruiting him hard and that the communication isn't all one sided. He has reached out to them too. Doesn't hurt that Florida St is a dumpster fire and Norvell hasn't exactly endeared himself to his players.
October 1st, 2020 at 8:14 PM ^
October 1st, 2020 at 2:41 PM ^
I think DT and CB are two positions Michigan really needs to up their game in recruiting. They're two areas we seem to have the biggest disparity in talent with programs like Ohio St. We seem to be doing well at recruiting other positions like WR, TE, RB, LB, etc.
October 1st, 2020 at 3:57 PM ^
Lavert Hill, Ambry Thomas, Jourdan Lewis, David Long. Actually, I think DB has been a bright spot. DT has been a bit thin the last couple years, with the obvious exception of Ben Mason.