23 WRs drafted, not a one from U-M
Not intending to pile on any player. But really looking forward competent WR and passing game development in 2020 for Michigan. I trust Gary is but we have got to see further improvement and player development. That Michigan doesn't have a single young WR among the top 23 picked is atrocious.
Wisconsin, Minnesota, SMU, heck, LIBERTY UNIV with WRs picked before Michigan.
**trust Gattis.
Um...Michigan has one WR in this draft. Rashan Gary isn't one of them.
Meant Gattis. I trust him but need to see it improve even more. As I type this a WR from Rhode island is picked.
Speed in space works well.
It started to when the offense found its feet.
Well, I mean.. yeah. DPJ’s draft position was always a big question mark coming in. Assign blame for that however you want, but it’s important to remember that this is maybe the deepest WR draft in recent memory and teams fall in love with their guy. This could turn out to be a great thing for DPJ in terms of motivation.
Motivation? Hell if he doesn't get drafted I think he has a 18% chance of making a roster. At least from memory of watching Hard Knocks they said something like that. He got very bad advice at this point, or something is wrong with him that we don't know about. Quintez Cephus ran a 4.7 40 and didn't look very good on the football field, and the home team took him over DPJ. That says a lot.
Oh, yeah IF he doesn’t get drafted he’s in for a very steep hill to climb. I assume he’ll still get drafted. If he doesn’t, well.. then yeah he got some bad advice or had an inflated opinion of himself.
This has been a weird draft. Eno Benjamin is still on the board as is James Proche and they were both very productive and have clear positions, while K. Hudson is already off the board.
I have a feeling that a year from now, when Nico gets drafted, this won't be a concern.
And another WR (from Rhode Island!) was just picked before DPJ.
Add a WR from Rhode Island to the list of picked ahead of 5 star DPJ and 5 star Shea. This staff....
Yes, I'm sure ALL Power 5 teams are going to poach the Rhode Island offensive staff. Whoever the eff they are.
If I had told you or anyone else that a kicker, a QB from FIU and 25 WR’s would go off the board before either would be drafted when DPJ and Shea committed here you would’ve negged me off the board as a troll.
I mean, at that point, we didn’t know Shea would overthrow so many streaking wide open WRs by 10 yards and that DPJ couldn’t get much separation with all of his freak athleticism
Most on here said Michigan was a QB away from doing big things after 2017 and once Shea transferred here the hype was unreal.
Then some of us saw him in the 2018 ND game and said that he doesn't look like anything special and were negged like crazy for it, except that's pretty much exactly how he turned out.
Gary isn't
According to Mel the Hair, DPJ is the 6th best player available at this time. He'll get selected but late, late. Could be used as a big slot. Probably was used wrong at Michigan.
Possibly, or could be something else.
Why do people keep saying this? He was used at every receiver position at one point or another. He could rarely get separation and when he did, he would drop the ball, and sometimes in the biggest moments.
Important to note that he’s getting coached by the same folks that were/are coaching Collins and Bell... for the development anger crowd.
That D2 school also had a defensive player drafted before Michigan and Georgia and just after the first Alabama defensive player. BFD.
Maybe he just doesn't have that burning desire for football. Who knows?
Yeah, this sentiment drives me crazy. He was the #1 WR out of high school and the staff put him all over the field. He was clearly the first or second option on a lot of plays, and yet in his three years at UM he never cracked 100 yards receiving and had exactly one game with more than 1 TD. At some point, shitty QB play or not, you have to be better. And the fact guys like Collins and Bell were also on this offense and thrived says something about DPJ.
I want him to succeed in the NFL. But even after the combine the official draft grade for him was ST/late round selection. He's a great athlete but clearly there are limitations to his game that are beyond "usage" because teams are pretty good at extrapolating based on stuff they've seen.
DPJ appears to be one of those classic loads of physical tools, no idea how to harness them players.
Receiver is apparently a highly nuanced position. It seems like it is an easy position to evaluate, be fast, be big, and jump high = great. As I look at Michigan's most successful receivers, this is not apparently the case. Gallon was small and, although quick, wasn't a 4.3 burner, yet was highly successful probably because he was super smart and had great chemistry with Gardner. They knew when to sit in a zon, or run a route wide or long to get open, or come back for a back shoulder toss.
Junior Hemingway was not super athletic, or big comparared to our current reciever core, but was one of the best in memory in getting 50/50 toss up balls. Somehow he came up with so many when Denard would toss one up. He also got an amazing amount of yards after conctact, with some weird shifty runs.
Manningham is not a big guy, and is fast, but another not blazing fast guy, yet his routes constantly allowed him to blow past secondary in both college and in NFL.
I am no expert, but have no idea how coaches find these guys that just get open. I am still surprised that the kid from Iowa (from this DPJ recruiting class) didn't do well, because all the sites said he had that route running smarts. Black seemed to have it as a freshman, but dropped off. Bell has the knack for getting open, and it is fun to see him play. Just a weird position that seems like athletic talent should be the end all, but is far from the truth.
How many wide receivers are there in Rhode Island that they keep getting picked?
Sounds like Jim Harbaugh needs to release Brown into the RI territory to find us some “gem” WR croots.
Either that or College Football Risk can take it over.
It's amazing. WRs from Rhode Island are getting drafted before DPJ.
I'd love to hear an actual scout break this down -- his film (e.g., getting off the line, hands, running routes, making tough catches) must not all be what they want to see, as his combine measurables were good.
Meanwhile the Lions need a WR and pass on DPJ to take...a RB from New Mexico. Just great.
To be fair, they had just taken Cephus.
Interesting. Just tuned in to hear them talk about Cephus's off-field troubles.
Yeah, I don’t have a strong recollection on the facts surrounding his legal troubles, but they certainly could have steered clear of it (which would have been my preference).
Now a WR from Miami to Vikings. Believe we are at 26 WRs now.
- Yeah at this point, I'm fine with some 3 or 4 star dogs at WR. Love dpj wish him,the best but I'll roll with just dogs now. Giles! Lets see it! Speed and separation are everything in football now.
Why is this surprising to anyone? Should not be.
Was to me. At this point, at least by the sixth round, I think most any team would be justified in taking a flier on him. Low risk, high reward. If you can coach him up, coupled with his athleticism, you’ve got a steal.
It's certainly strange that both DPJ and K.J. Hill are still on the board.
KJ is basically the opposite of DPJ. He's a baller and great football player, but likely lacks the athleticism to be a starter in the NFL.
He must have a injury or interviewed poorly, a former 5* recruit,who was fairly productive is getting passed by all these other guys is crazy to me
He was the third best receiver on an anemic Michigan offense.
He is fast but rarely had big plays in the passing game.
He has an elite vertical jump but rarely beat guys on jump balls.
He is quick but almost never got separation.
He has size and shift but always seemed to fall down or get tackled by the first defender.
It's honestly not surprising.
DPJ is the only one in the draft and he just hasn't played really good football yet.
Looks bad for Michigan and they'll certainly get negative recruited on this.
Worth noting that there are currently 3(!!!) OSU WRs waiting to be drafted still...
True but they’ve had high picks recently and they get to say “Michael Thomas” to kids so that doesn’t hurt them.
1. What a shit title. It implies that UM had multiple draftable WR that havent been picked, rather than just one guy.
Which, 2. makes your first sentence bs, since clearly you are reference a particular player.
The Dolphins just took a long snapper over DPJ. After all the years of teams going crazy for guys that test well at the combine, I just don't understand what's going on with this.
DPJ to Browns... man I was hoping it’d be NE
WHO THE HELL IS GARY
Super surprised some team hasn't taken him solely on his punt return ability, which, IMO, was his best stuff at Michigan.
He was pretty shit at punt returns. He failed to field so so so many catchable punts that bounced for 20 negative yards. His decision making was so suspect too.
Whether it’s the fault of the player or the staff is almost kinda moot. In the bigger picture though this is a major indictment of the program. If I were a parent of a blue-chip recruit, I’d have to ask myself why I’d send my son to UM. It just seems like the top talent that comes here don’t get much better.