From 2 wins to 12+
When was the last time a FBS team went from 2 wins in a season to 12 or more?
Or that a B1G team went from 2 wins to conference champion (and beyond)?
I really have no way of looking up the answer to this question, but it seems worth asking.
Remarkable turnaround.
December 5th, 2021 at 6:42 PM ^
"When you're a MAC team, and you go 1-11, the wheels have definitely come off of the wagon. That's exactly the situation Miami was in after the 2009 season.
Under the leadership of head coach Mike Haywood, the Redhawks had a near-miraculous turnaround in 2010, and went on to win 10 games, a MAC championship, and the GoDaddy.com Bowl over Middle Tennessee State.
In the long history of college football, the 2010 Miami Redhawks are the only team ever to follow a season of double-digit losses with a season of double-digit wins."
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/745281-college-football-worst-to-fi…
December 5th, 2021 at 6:45 PM ^
Michigan was 2-4 last year though, not 2-10. A bit misleading to talk about going from 2 to 12 wins in this context.
December 5th, 2021 at 6:59 PM ^
[Yeah, I meant to add parenthetically that last year was Covid-shortened. Forgot before pressing Save, and as you know, it's impossible to edit MGoBoard original postings]
Wasn't talking about the number of losses, but the number of wins.
December 5th, 2021 at 7:06 PM ^
But the number of wins is equally impacted by the covid shortened season. Which is why this post sucks. Sorry! (Not sorry!)
December 5th, 2021 at 7:44 PM ^
But going 2-4 is the equivalent of going 4-8 in a full slate. So you have to acknowledge the lack of games played in your data point as well, as it affects wins and losses both.
December 5th, 2021 at 9:01 PM ^
Umm no it isnt... had we played 12 games michigan probably wins their easy non conf slate.. only toss up would have been washington.
So last year in a full schedule mich probably goes 6 in 6 or 7-5
December 5th, 2021 at 8:05 PM ^
You also can’t forget the extensive COVID protocols that were in place. Half the time players were not practicing. Last season is just not a good point of reference for anything.
December 5th, 2021 at 8:59 PM ^
What if you factor in the virtual 150-0 loss at OSU, like most Buck fans are desperate to include in the 2020 slate?
December 5th, 2021 at 6:47 PM ^
I think the UCF turn around under Frost was the best of all time
December 5th, 2021 at 6:51 PM ^
Frost gets another chance next year...
December 5th, 2021 at 6:52 PM ^
Frost’s wasn’t a 1 year turnaround though.
December 5th, 2021 at 7:05 PM ^
Frost got 6 wins his first year at UCF (they were 0-12 the year before).
The next year (2017), they went undefeated in 13 games and declared themselves national champions. Nebraska hire him away and was expecting similar results.
December 5th, 2021 at 8:57 PM ^
I see no reason Nebraska can't declare themselves national champions if they want. Buy some rings, hang a banner and invite the press to the unveiling. "Better the illusions that exalt us than 10,000 truths."
December 5th, 2021 at 7:26 PM ^
I think the UCF turn around under Frost was the best of all time
Frost might have turned around UCF, but the turn around he's orchestrated at Nebraska is turning even more heads. They went from 4-8 the year before he took over, to 4-8, 5-7, 3-5, and finally 3-9 this season. That's 16 wins, which would usually be enough for a Natty every season. Besides that, Nebraska has been really outhitting everyone since Frost took over, and this season they managed to score 70 points more than they gave up all season. Statistically, he is killing it at Nebraska.
Unfortunately, the NCAA playoff committee rules and regulations are biased against Nebraska's play style of outhitting opponents and squeaking out losses. Instead they keep picking different teams for the playoffs, teams that don't hit as hard and don't lose in style like Nebraska is doing.
December 5th, 2021 at 7:45 PM ^
Scott Frost's mom is writing a letter to the NCAA playoff committee.
December 5th, 2021 at 6:51 PM ^
I mean, the fact that we only played 6 games kinda plays a factor in that…
December 5th, 2021 at 7:00 PM ^
Well it’s not like we would have won a lot more last year.
December 5th, 2021 at 9:00 PM ^
Home games against the States of Ball and Arkansas, at least.
December 5th, 2021 at 6:54 PM ^
Doesn’t Northwestern do this every other year?
December 5th, 2021 at 7:00 PM ^
Someone should create some sort of SuperGuide for these types of queries
December 5th, 2021 at 7:02 PM ^
Yet Tucker won the B1G coach of the year…
December 5th, 2021 at 7:08 PM ^
Tim Allen won it the year before and urban Meyer never won it.
December 5th, 2021 at 7:24 PM ^
The Toolman?
December 5th, 2021 at 7:42 PM ^
No, that’s Tim Taylor.
December 5th, 2021 at 7:51 PM ^
No that’s Buzz Lightyear of Star Command.
Actually no jk Chris Evans plays him now.
No, not that Chris Evans, I meant the guy who plays Captain America.
December 5th, 2021 at 7:34 PM ^
We can unequivocally say that the 2020 college football season deserves a huge giant asterisk, correct?
Other than "Alabama was great", we really can't draw any conclusions from that year, and it should be just basically ignored for historical context.
December 5th, 2021 at 7:41 PM ^
Remember when people were bitching because Michigan didn't put their spring game online and that was the worst thing ever and it meant all our players were awful and this team would be lucky to win 6 games?
December 5th, 2021 at 7:49 PM ^
A former “insider” on here said the team looked so bad and that Bowman hopefully wins the job because we would win “no more than 4 games” with Cade at QB
December 5th, 2021 at 11:59 PM ^
Brandon Brown asserted to me on twitter before the season began that Bowman would be the starter against WMU.
December 5th, 2021 at 8:22 PM ^
The COVID year was simply non-representative. That's especially true for schools who took it seriously and let their medical faculty have the final say on whether or not the team practiced or played. I'm proud of Michigan for doing that last year, even though it greatly skewed the win-loss numbers.
December 5th, 2021 at 8:23 PM ^
The more appropriate question would be how many people go from (an extrapolated) 4-8 to 12-1. The answer to that question is pretty much never- but the covid season was certainly not a normal season. We were much more talented than 4-8 if it was a full season
December 5th, 2021 at 8:29 PM ^
Take last season and throw it out with the garbage lol. It wasn't a real season and nobody sane is trying to make any meaningful inferences based upon it.
December 5th, 2021 at 9:13 PM ^
The AP voters seemed to take it seriously when the made their selections in the pre-season poll. Perhaps more telling than a comparison between last year and this year is looking to see how many teams had a year like Michigan's after not being voted in the Top 25 at the start of the season. We know Mich is the only one to be named to the CFP. I wonder if there are similar examples in the pre-CFP era.