#12 Michigan at # 14 Michigan Staee Hoops Open Thread

Observations:

Just not that good. Not much talent on this team. Brooks and DDJ were hopeful to turn corner early in season haven’t done much over last 30 days. Wagner we kept thinking was just rusty, but he’s a ways from being ready. Z and Teske is all  you trust, and Z is offensively challenged. No Livers to me has really exploited this teams talent.

For a team not overly talented at putting the ball in the basket, how can the D be so bad? Can’t give up that many points when you don’t have many scorers. Just so many guys who aren’t ready for the big lights of a big road game. I think we thought after Atlantis this team would play WAY above their limits. Now just settling in to what we probably thought. Lots of tough nights can’t see us winning many road games in this conference.

If I could punch one face in all of sports it would be Tom Izzo. Dude whines about EVERYTHING! Why would any parent want their kid to go play for this short clown is beyond me. 

Winston is good. But he gets so many joke calls. He got at least 3-4.

Should I look for a "Matt Dudek appreciation" post after this game?

Just pound Teske in there the rest of the game.  That's the one guy they can't deal with.  Get some guys to foul out.

I forgot how toxic these threads during the games are. It’s game 3 of the conference schedule in early January and people here are already deciding the season is a failure. 

Huge disparity in fouls. Home cooking or just the more aggressive team? I would say both. Michigan is being too timid and needs to show some heart if they don’t want to get blown out badly

Defensively we either need to double Winston on all screens, or play a zone. Our regular screen defense is just getting shredded. Make the role players beat you, and if they do, so be it

The team needs Johns and Wagner to pull the trigger from deep. They seem so hesitant to shoot. Brooks isn't as hesitant, but he's got to knock a couple down. We're no going to win this game feeding the ball in to Big Jon, we have to hit some shots from deep, which will open up driving lanes and passing lanes.

Defense has been especially bad today

Shouldn’t that be an over the back. Same thing they got Teske on. 

Come in and call complete bullshit on teske. No call on his off arm creating space on next drive though?

X this is not the time to start getting cute. Pass the ball 

Refs are taking Teske out of it

MSU is just so damn efficient on offense right now. Can’t ever seem to get out of this 9-12 point hole.

Winston fn owns Michigan. This defense sucks 

Cassius is too good. Wish he came to Michigan. His shooting alone is unreal. 

So where is waffle guy?

Watching this game is like taking a shit. Necessary and scheduled, and may or may not feel good. 
 

Juwan is making the most with Belien’s empty cupboard.

FFS, why don’t those shots ever fall for UM?

Double Winston and let someone else beat you with layups. Jfc

Wish we could have kept some concepts from last years D . Not even close 

Cash is pretty freaking unbelievable

Can’t be trading baskets. 

Winston is having a great game. I’m actually impressed that the lead has only increased by 1 in the second half. 

How is Winston not an NBA player? 

Not sure why Brooks isn’t defending Winston in every possession?  Has a much easier time shooting over Z 

Can’t fucking wait for Winston to graduate. That guy takes over the game every single time he plays Michigan. Whoever replaces him next year can’t possibly be better.

How Izzo keeps convincing guys to come back to school when they should leave is beyond me.

We're hanging right there. The first half missed opportunities are what stings right now (open 3s, bad fouls). 

Howard, maybe change up the D approach? Hedge the big guy? Winston is on fire, but why does he get so many good looks!?!

I'm curious about Z's follow in behind the guy hes guarding style of defense this year. It's like hes attempting to lead them into a trap but theres never anyone there.That's not gonna work with Winston especially because he leans forward on most shots 

Winston is so crafty. Don't think he'll be much of an NBA player,  but he's dynamite in college.

That said, Stockton and Nash were crafty players that excelled in the league...if Winston can develop as a 40% 3 point shooter in the league, he could be a good starting point guard.

We can't hit a free throw  and they don't miss any 3 they throw up.  Ridiculous.  Simpson not having a very good game.

Wr arent getting back in transition.

Defense is shit. FFS.

Seeing Z and Cassius develop over the years... man where would Michigan be if Cash came here. 
 

Z owned him the first 2 meetings and Cash has just destroyed us the last 4.