so much for that
The Lion King
This has been on my mind for a long time. It's been bothering me ever since we hired Coach Rod. And it's important. Well, pretty important - you be the judge.**
It is the fact that Coach doesn't understand the meaning of a kid's movie. You know the movie: the Lion King. And the scene Coach Rod refers to (quoted from imdb here):
Adult Simba: I know what I have to do. But going back will mean facing my past. I've been running from it for so long.
[Rafiki hits Simba on the head with his stick]
Adult Simba: Ow! Jeez, what was that for?
Rafiki: It doesn't matter. It's in the past.
[laughs]
Adult Simba: Yeah, but it still hurts.
Rafiki: Oh yes, the past can hurt. But the way I see it, you can either run from it, or... learn from it.
[swings his stick at Simba again who ducks out of the way]
Rafiki: Ha. You See? So what are you going to do?
Adult Simba: First, I'm gonna take your stick.
[Simba snatches Rafiki's stick and throws it and Rafiki runs to grab it]
Rafiki: No, not the stick! Hey, where you going?
Adult Simba: I'm going back!
Rafiki: Good! Go on! Get out of here!
[Rafiki begins laughing and screeching loudly]
The whole point of this scene, of course, is that the past DOES matter. You should confront your past, which is the whole point of the movie in which young Simba tries to run away and lead the Hakuna Matata life but eventually figures out you shouldn't do that. Yet RichRod keeps referring to it as if the point is that you should forget about things because they are in the past. For example:
There's an old movie called The Lion King. There's a scene in the movie where a monkey hits the lion over the head, and the lion says, 'What'd you do that for?' and the monkey says, 'It doesn't matter, it's in the past.' "
- On his hiring from West Virginia at his introductory press conference (Dec. 17, 2007)
I think Coach really doesn't get it (ok, perhaps he's being ironic, but...). The humorous thing: you can be a great college football coach even though Disney movies are way above your head. If that isn't inspiring, what is?
Thus, I though this would be an opportune moment to extract some football appropriate lessons from Disney (and other) movies for Coach and the rest of the team. Warning: spoilers!
** Brian is the real judge, and will likely remove this from the diaries because it is kind of crappy. But who knows, maybe he is too busy to notice, or is sick of all the "analysis" that everyone else does.
It is the fact that Coach doesn't understand the meaning of a kid's movie. You know the movie: the Lion King. And the scene Coach Rod refers to (quoted from imdb here):
Adult Simba: I know what I have to do. But going back will mean facing my past. I've been running from it for so long.
[Rafiki hits Simba on the head with his stick]
Adult Simba: Ow! Jeez, what was that for?
Rafiki: It doesn't matter. It's in the past.
[laughs]
Adult Simba: Yeah, but it still hurts.
Rafiki: Oh yes, the past can hurt. But the way I see it, you can either run from it, or... learn from it.
[swings his stick at Simba again who ducks out of the way]
Rafiki: Ha. You See? So what are you going to do?
Adult Simba: First, I'm gonna take your stick.
[Simba snatches Rafiki's stick and throws it and Rafiki runs to grab it]
Rafiki: No, not the stick! Hey, where you going?
Adult Simba: I'm going back!
Rafiki: Good! Go on! Get out of here!
[Rafiki begins laughing and screeching loudly]
The whole point of this scene, of course, is that the past DOES matter. You should confront your past, which is the whole point of the movie in which young Simba tries to run away and lead the Hakuna Matata life but eventually figures out you shouldn't do that. Yet RichRod keeps referring to it as if the point is that you should forget about things because they are in the past. For example:
There's an old movie called The Lion King. There's a scene in the movie where a monkey hits the lion over the head, and the lion says, 'What'd you do that for?' and the monkey says, 'It doesn't matter, it's in the past.' "
- On his hiring from West Virginia at his introductory press conference (Dec. 17, 2007)
I think Coach really doesn't get it (ok, perhaps he's being ironic, but...). The humorous thing: you can be a great college football coach even though Disney movies are way above your head. If that isn't inspiring, what is?
Thus, I though this would be an opportune moment to extract some football appropriate lessons from Disney (and other) movies for Coach and the rest of the team. Warning: spoilers!
- Finding Nemo: Don't ever leave home or you will potentially be eaten. Useful for: RichRod, Justin Boren (we hope). Oddly, not for John Beilein.
- Mulan: Girls may be better than you think at a man's game. Useful for: Anyone in a sweatervest, and AJ Hawk, Vernon Gholsten, and anybody who got 'roided up to play at tOSU (i.e., think of the shrinkage).
- Beauty and the Beast: A beast may be just a man on the inside, a hidden beauty under all of that outer beastly self. Useful for: Mike Martin's future wife/wives.
- Cinderella: Your shoe may fall off but in the end that is a good thing. Useful for: Denard Robinson.
- Bambi: Hicks in the forest may shoot at you or worse, at your mom. Useful for: Anyone traveling in West Virginia, or Ohio.
- Fantasia: Sometimes something that is usually great (e.g., a Disney movie) really sucks and is boring and you wish you hadn't seen it. Useful for: Anyone who watched UM last year (zing! ouch, that one hurts me).
** Brian is the real judge, and will likely remove this from the diaries because it is kind of crappy. But who knows, maybe he is too busy to notice, or is sick of all the "analysis" that everyone else does.
September 9th, 2009 at 3:43 PM | 
What happened was:
What happened was:
September 9th, 2009 at 3:44 PM |
I don't think....
I don't think....
I don't think the point is so much to confront your past, as much as it is to learn from your past.
Tom VanHaaren I TomVH on Twitter I U Recruit I Email
September 9th, 2009 at 7:42 PM |
ducking Rafiki's stick
ducking Rafiki's stick
if you will.
...the Canadians make up for it with their emotion and classic ice-dancing skill.
September 9th, 2009 at 3:56 PM |
I LOL'd
I LOL'd
Maybe the ghosts of Bo and Don Nehlen* will appear out of thin air during Hash Bash to set him straight on this gaffe.
* who is alive, I know
Although I don't think he's misinterpreting the Lion King message, he's just not using the whole thing. He's basically using it as an example of how it's impossible to not feel some pain about the past. He's not, however, using it to explain why he's going to return to WVU and fix a dying ecosystem, or whatever Simba did in that movie.
September 10th, 2009 at 8:48 AM |
Um
Um
I'm a big Rodriguez fan. All In, etc.
But the dude doesn't get that scene. I'm fairly sure that if he watched it again and thought about it he would realize the error, but he pretty clearly misinterprets the meaning with his 'let's not talk about the past' spiel.
Unless you want to give him credit for dodging questions about the past while subtly acknowledging its importance, which I'm not prepared to do. He is a grown man who quotes the Lion King after all.
September 10th, 2009 at 10:30 AM |
I see your point but I can see his point, too, if he has one
I see your point but I can see his point, too, if he has one
The scene is about how the past can hurt, but you can't run away from it or ignore it. I really don't think he is misinterpreting the scene so much as he is just leaving out that second half. You can fault him for that, but that doesn't mean he's getting the part that he references wrong. The way I've always heard it, he's telling us that it hurts *even though* he's dealt with it and it's behind him. He's not claiming that he does or ever did refuse to confront it (and talking about it with the press is certainly irrelevant to whether he's confronted it or not).
I don't think he's dumb. I mean, he did once used the word "galvanize" to describe team unity. BUT, I'm not going to claim he definitely understands what he's talking about, just that there is a possibility.
September 10th, 2009 at 11:17 AM |
I hear ya
I hear ya
I'm not saying that Rodriguez is dumb - far from it. I just don't get the impression he spends a lot of time thinking about literary/cultural allusions (hence, again, resorting to a Lion King reference.) He probably saw the movie with his kids and just latched on to the one quote.
Footnote: It is, of course, Lloyd's fault that we even discuss how intelligent our football coach sounds in press conferences. While it might have been nice to find another warrior poet to lead the team, I think it was hard enough to find a decent, honorable guy who can coach the hell out of a football team. We'll just have to remember the Kipling references fondly (though I wish the defense did keep the 'strength of the wolf is the pack' thing alive ... they don't do that any more, right? Of course if I had to pick between ominously incongruous pregame rituals and 'tackling' I'd go with the latter.)
September 10th, 2009 at 11:53 AM |
What asshat negged this?
What asshat negged this?
Sorry, but who the fuck would neg something like this? What an idiot. Save the negs people, for truly moronic statements, trolls, or replacing S with $.
"Everyone gets dumped Gabe. Let me give you some advice: a little coverup on your Adams Apple will make it appear smaller. Which will make you appear less like a transvestite."
September 10th, 2009 at 12:09 PM |
Some people neg anything remotely negative about RR
Some people neg anything remotely negative about RR
I just don't get the impression he spends a lot of time thinking about literary/cultural allusions (hence, again, resorting to a Lion King reference.)
Some people will neg anything even remotely resembling a shot at RR.
I didn't think this comment was a shot at RR, I didn't neg this one. His comment before this one was more negative and could see that one being negworthy as well.
I didn't neg either of them.
I did neg your comment for mentioning points/negging. I will neg my own accordingly. (Even though it doesn't do anything)
I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:11 PM |
I stand by my statement
I stand by my statement
That adults sound silly when they make references to Disney movies.
I'm really happy that Rodriguez is our coach, and I hope he is our coach for a long time.
But sometimes even people we like do things that make them sound silly. To me, Rich using (and re-using!) his damn Lion King reference is one of those things.
End of.
(This tone is obviously not directed to 1987, who told people not to be so mean to me. I now will neg myself for mentioning the negging, as per custom.)
EDIT: Do you know what would happen if we were ever to lose the ability to recognize our own foibles and those of the football program? If we abandoned the flexibility to laugh at ourselves and our coaches when they talk about the Lion King? We would turn into Tommy Kilborn, that's what. I feel very strongly about this.
September 10th, 2009 at 4:33 PM |
Yep
Yep
I try to keep my bias in check too, especially for more serious issues. That's one thing I like about Michigan fans vs. other teams' fans. Most of us can laugh at and criticize our own team when it's deserved.
September 10th, 2009 at 1:08 PM |
I could care less about points, but the principle here is
I could care less about points, but the principle here is
that negs are for stupid, purposely inflammatory. childish (easy O$U shots), aggressively ignorant or trollish posts, they are NOT FOR LEGITIMATE OPINIONS SOMEONE DOESN'T AGREE WITH*. He expressed an opinion, and did it with intelligence. If someone doesn't agree, then express your opinion with a post. Geez. BTW, I'm with you and not criticizing you.
*If I'm wrong about this I'll retract. But that's my understanding of the purpose of the system.
"Everyone gets dumped Gabe. Let me give you some advice: a little coverup on your Adams Apple will make it appear smaller. Which will make you appear less like a transvestite."
September 9th, 2009 at 4:12 PM |
Rich's Past
Rich's Past
The point of the movie was two fold.
The first is that which is past is past and you should not let it haunt you. Once things are done, they are done.
The second part of the point is thus... while you let your past go, it does not mean that you do not learn from your past. Consider your past from a distance (emotionally, whatever) and do not make the same mistakes again.
So...
The key to knowing whether or not he really understood the movie will be if he decides to leave M for another job and how he handles himself and that situation.
He has let his past go. He left WVU.
Has he learned from it? Hopefully he retires after winning another 350 games at M and we don't have to find out if he's learned from it.
Wasting away in Ohio, a Wolverine in a sea of red and grey
September 9th, 2009 at 6:21 PM |
I Thought
I Thought
The point of this and all Disney movies was to buy them for your kids so you could leave them alone in front of the television while you sneak off to Vegas for a weekend with your buddies.
I guess I missed the point of the movies. And having kids.
That being said, it is what it is.
September 9th, 2009 at 4:15 PM |
You missed the most obvious one...
You missed the most obvious one...
Ratatouille: There's a rat in our kitchen.
Useful for: Understanding the Rosenberg article.
September 9th, 2009 at 4:19 PM |
no the most obvious one is
no the most obvious one is
no the most obvious one is Pinocchio:
it's your nose that grows when you lie not your ..... useful for rosenberg and why he's still a 40 year old virgin.
September 9th, 2009 at 4:35 PM |
deja vu
deja vu
i could've sworn you (or someone else) already posted this exact thing...
EDIT: here it is, it was gpsimms a few weeks ago on mgoboard. woo for mgoblog search fxn!
http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/it-should-be-ot-its-really-not-lion-king
For my privacy, my new username is "non-Oriental non-Andrew"
September 9th, 2009 at 4:37 PM |
This post looks vaguely familiar.
This post looks vaguely familiar.
http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/it-should-be-ot-its-really-not-lion-king
EDIT: Beaten by a minute...
I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.
September 9th, 2009 at 4:46 PM |
I think that this diary has
I think that this diary has
I think that this diary has the highest density of LoL to words as I have read on this website.
Current Smug rating: "lethal"
September 9th, 2009 at 6:12 PM |
Don't come back here or we'll
Don't come back here or we'll
Don't come back here or we'll KILL YA!
Yeah, WE'LL KILL YA!
j/k, see you Saturday :)
September 9th, 2009 at 5:49 PM |
Hakuna Matata
Hakuna Matata
That's more the message from the Lion King that RR is going for.
Or maybe down inside, it's I just can't wait to be king?
September 9th, 2009 at 6:08 PM |
Lion King the Next
Lion King the Next
In your next Lion King Redux, could you explore the homoerotic relationship between Simba, Timon, and the Warthog? I've always wondered about that. I know they were doing drugs and jerking off together.
That being said, it is what it is.
September 9th, 2009 at 6:09 PM |
oops, sorry to gpsimms
oops, sorry to gpsimms
Didn't see the gpsimms note on the same damn thing. argh.
Oddly enough, I have been thinking about this for about a year.
I am not really Coach Schiano. -Coach Schiano on Mgoblog
September 9th, 2009 at 9:12 PM |
It's cool
It's cool
For some reason, my writeup got neg banged. It's all in the delivery, apparently. (Which I worked hard on, and then apparently face-planted).
Also, it's good to see someone is giving this serious problem the thought/attention it deserves.
September 9th, 2009 at 6:36 PM |
Obligatory
Obligatory
"We've got to forget about that Simba sh** and focus on the Pittsburgh game"
September 9th, 2009 at 9:39 PM |
This is the funniest thing I
This is the funniest thing I
This is the funniest thing I have seen all day.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:33 PM |
Dumbo
Dumbo
Sometimes the rodents of the world will try to convince you that only a "magic feather" (or a "Michigan Man") can elevate you to higher levels. But really, the elephant of the Big Ten can fly without it.
E to the S Go Blue, Class of '04
September 9th, 2009 at 10:25 PM |
Mike Martin
Mike Martin
will not have a wife. Mike Martin will be the iron fisted leader of a post-apocalyptic wasteland and women will be brought to him at his demand.
This has nothing to do with Michigan football.
September 10th, 2009 at 12:47 AM |
If by "brought to him at his
If by "brought to him at his
If by "brought to him at his demand," you mean "flocking to him in numbers that blot out the sun," then yea.
The world looks better through maize mirror tint.
September 10th, 2009 at 10:37 AM |
Mike Martin's biceps block
Mike Martin's biceps block
Mike Martin's biceps block out the sun.
The defense plays in the shade
"I think you are my favorite poster. The polar bear avatar definitely helps." - ShockFX
September 10th, 2009 at 12:17 AM |
Lion King... Awesomeness.
Lion King... Awesomeness.
Lion King... Awesomeness. Rich Rod (Football coach who quotes Lion King)... Loofah using Space Emperor Awesomeness
September 10th, 2009 at 1:28 AM |
Uhhhh ...
Uhhhh ...
I think he just stole a couple of lines from a movie because it was a quick and funny way to say what he wanted to say, namely "it's in the past." I do not think he was trying to draw parallels between Michigan's situation and the lesson(s) of the scene or the movie.
P.S. On the other hand, maybe he was saying that Michigan is the king of the jungle and will soon return to its rightful place at the top of the mountain.
"I didn't do it. Nobody saw me do it. You can't prove anything." B. Simpson
September 10th, 2009 at 9:20 AM |
I hate you.
I hate you.
This diary post makes me hate you. And computers. And the intraweb.
RR purposely misinterpreted the point, knowing that the media would take it out of context, and misquote him, thus reversing it back to the true meaning.