WTKA Roundtable 6/29/2023: The Roundtable Roundtable
Things Discussed:
- NIL vs "NIL": Why is the NCAA trying to fight states? Who's writing the laws? Do they have any chance? Nope.
- NCAA is probably trying to scare other ADs away from joining the race to make the most anti-NCAA public policy.
- What should the NCAA be fighting for at this point? They have to go to class, they have to graduate.
- NCAA isn't going to do anything; being careful about following rules they're not taking seriously is useless. They can't even punish schools anymore because they're not going to take away postseasons (they don't want to) and scholarship limits don't matter with NIL.
- What's M Power: The answer to the problem that Michigan has a lot of collectives.
- NIL vs "NIL" pt 2. Michigan is actually doing well at NIL because they had to come at this from a new perspective, whereas cheaters like Ohio State and Notre Dame already had processes developed when it was all illegal. Michigan is way behind on "NIL" but are finally addressing it, writing a new law in Michigan and having Harbaugh drive it with M Power.
- Beer in Michigan Stadium? Games are so slow today that you might as well. Not going to be a big deal.
- Hail to the Roundtable segment: Is beating OSU sustainable? Michigan has a good thing going right now, long term Ohio State will get better talent. The last two years OSU only produced two 1st rounders on defense, and didn't have the horses to beat Michigan at the main thing we wanted to do.
- What does the Sherrone Moore offense look like? Two tight ends and/or two RBs because they can get Loveland and Edwards matched against linebackers. There's no answer to that: if you have a hybrid LB he'll get crushed by Michigan's power running attack.
- Find a weakness on this team other than injuries to JJ or WJ? Can't. Maybe kicking.
- Fantilli to Columbus: Bad. Anaheim was the hope because they have 2 centers and aren't trying to win this year.
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Their Beat Georgia drill is here's the wires you gotta cut to make sure the air conditioning doesn't work.
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beer in the stadium:
big deal? no.
wound number 1000 in a death by paper cuts? yes.
Yeah, i don't get that beer in the stadium is not a big deal. Its a big deal for multiple reasons. And my main reason is not revenue, but fights. Big House jams 100k people in their like sardines. Give them lots of beer, and we will see how big of a deal it turns out to be.
yeah, i didn't say that very well.
i'm completely against it, fwiw, and not because, as someone who quit drinking a long time ago, i don't want to be around people that drink. that doesn't bother me - if it did i wouldn't go in the first place. i just think it's a lessening of the experience in general.
yes, people will drink outside the stadium and smuggle in fireballs. that doesn't mean we need to participate on an institutional level. i'm not sure of the upside.
I think it will lessen fan engagement with the game itself. Not the addition of alcohol - we all know people were smuggling it. But when they smuggled it in, they drank at their seats and stayed where they could see the game and cheer/boo as needed. Now people will spend more time out of their seats in line at concessions, and I think that will lead to less engagement with the actual, you know, game.
It’s likely going to lead to an increase in drunk driving on game days. That could have significant consequences but hey, more revenue for the cops to bring in!
It seems like more of a societal argument at this point about whether to have it or not. 11 Big Ten schools have alcohol at their stadiums out of 14 so it is coming.
I live abroad, so sadly have not been to a game in a very long time. Unless things have changed, I can imagine one major unintended consequence would be looooong lines for the bathrooms?
here's a recent article says eight stadia, not eleven.:
not that the number matters, in any case. there's zero chance that we'll decide either way based on what any other big ten schools do, whether it's 1, or 8, or 11.
I don't think it changes much at all. Anyone who wants to be drunk at a game already is. It's super easy to drink beforehand or bring in a flask or little airplane bottles. People who aren't looking to get drunk may have one or two now that it's being sold, but I really don't think that changes much, especially at bigger games. Have been to multiple away games and bowl games that sell booze and haven't noticed any issues with being annoyed people are trying to walk out by me or more fights or anything
I hadn't seen Michigan Replay in at least a decade before it went off the air, but I finally read the long-dead theme music thread and this brought back memories.
(It is still off the air, isn't it?)
Fantilli in Columbus hurts my heart...of course happy for him, in the league, living his dream...but puke city
An OSU guy drafting a talented Michigan player? Why I never.
Think about how much more frisky the tunnel will be now that it can drink!
NCAA shouldn't have gone after Little Brown Jug like that.
Blowback is a bitch.
The NCAA is not about enforcement or really anything anymore. The primary focus of the NCAA is to keep their jobs while doing nothing, in other words, be irrelevant without becoming extinct. So they will posture now and then, but you're oh-so-close to getting it when observing they don't want to punish schools. That's not impotence, that's culpability. You can call that corruption, and it is, but it's not so much that they're a bunch of incompetent boobs undermined by corruption as, they are superbly competent at hanging around and collecting their paychecks despite long serving no functional purpose. Well, at most, their job is to occupy certain chairs so no one with a conscience can and thereby threaten the status quo by actually wielding what real power they may have.
It may be a slow losing battle for their existence, but consider, it's been a slow losing battle since the 1980s yet they've kept their shameless mugs in the picture, and I don't see them going away anytime soon. That's quite an achievement, in its own hope-crushing way.
I'm learning some depressing lessons about just how long a do-nothing can hang around and get paid to do nothing, because everyone literally wants them to do nothing.
The wr room is not strong. Definitely could be a weakness. I’m excluding tight ends.
CJ and Wilson?? At the very least they'll be what we need them to be. Slot is a wee bit iffy with Bell gone but Sainristil playing both ways is on the table, in a pinch -- Harbaugh's got plenty of precedent.
Donovan Edwards being in the slot a majority of the time when Corum is at RB would work.
I feel like the wide receivers were better under Gattis.
Don't forget junior wideout Peyton O’Leary.
O’Leary (6-3, 195) revealed this week that after spending two seasons as a walk-on at Michigan, head coach Jim Harbaugh and the staff have elected to put him on scholarship moving forward.
“Another guy who’s surged is Peyton O’Leary,” Harbaugh said last August.
“So, Peyton O’Leary is backing up Cornelius Johnson right now at the X-position. And he’s had a Cooper Kupp-like training camp. I mean, he’s almost got that nickname around here right now. So that’s been tremendous.”
There is an opportunity moving forward for playing time at wide receiver with Ronnie Bell off to the NFL and Andrel Anthony transferring to Oklahoma (and AJ Henning also transferring). Graduate Cornelius Johnson, senior Roman Wilson ... and the sophomore trio of Amorion Walker, Darrius Clemons and Tyler Morris will compete for spots at the top of the Michigan depth chart.
And Michigan football spring game takeaways
[Last season he was talked about by teammates as being extremely impressive and under the radar... ]
Wide receiver Peyton O’Leary was the unquestioned man of the hour. The sophomore former walk-on had 6 catches for 126 yards, including the game-clinching 2-point conversion.
Either O'Leary is very good, or Amorion Walker is the worst cornerback ever.
It seems like we hear that Michigan had to build a NIL program from the ground because they didn't have one already in place like the former cheaters of OSU and Georgia. However, we are 2 years into NIL and losing guys like Chiles and Uini. How many years is it supposed to take? Our NIL is better than in 2021 but I will believe that we are almost there when I see it.
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