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Brian May 15th, 2020 at 1:34 PM

Content supplies are critically low. BTN had some Northwestern memories on deck a few days back. They were extremely Northwestern.

More on Eastern. Brendan Quinn has an article on a whirlwind couple of days in the portal:

According to a source, Eastern and Michigan coach Juwan Howard spoke on Wednesday night.

By Thursday morning, Eastern’s decision was made.

He confirms that Eastern is not immediately eligible, which may be for the best. A year off for Eastern to attend the Zavier Simpson School Of Adequate When Unguarded Shooting could make his year at Michigan more productive. Meanwhile the 2021-22 roster will lose Smith, Brooks, Livers, and maybe Wagner.

That team is likely to be very young, and if Howard is able to secure a big-timer next year Eastern fits more neatly next to a high-usage teammate. Purdue was able to paper over his offensive deficiencies when Carsen Edwards was around; not so much after Edwards left for the NBA. Edwards's ORTG against Tier A and B opponents (top 100 adjusted for location) dropped from 110 his sophomore year to 85 his junior year. There's a reasonably efficient low-usage offensive player in Eastern if he's in the right context. That is admittedly a narrow one.

In other transfer news, Michigan is not listed amongst the schools who have reached out to sit-out Georgetown transfer Mac McClung.

[After THE JUMP: Jacobi brain good?]

Harbaugh's draft proposal. Jim Harbaugh released an NFL draft revamp plan that I'm dubious about. Major points:

  • You can enter at any time, no more three year wait.
  • If you're not drafted by the middle of the seventh round you can return to college.
  • Anyone can transfer once without sitting out.
  • Everyone's eligible for five years.
  • Eliminate the cap of 25 initial counters.

I'm ambivalent about this. As I've discussed many times, I prefer the hockey system where you're automatically enrolled in the draft at a certain age and retain your college eligibility. Once you're drafted by a team you have specific conversations with that team about when to turn pro. Michigan knew the score with Quinn Hughes and knows the score with Cam York, so they can be prepared to fill in their roster slots based on an informed conversation with the player and the team that holds his rights.

Meanwhile the players are not forced to give up their eligibility to take a swing at the pros. Draft and follow solves the problem of the undrafted early entry by eliminating the idea of early entries. It removes the step where an agent hoping to get a client encourages you to leave college for his benefit, not yours. It removes magical thinking about where you should go with the hard facts that you were a sixth round draft pick.

Harbaugh's plan encourages every eligible player to put their name in, so why not just put every eligible player's name in? Do a hockey.

I would absolutely watch this. Times are so desperate that I am occasionally thinking "Adam Jacobi's brain is good."

I think Harbaugh might eat plain rice as a meal already. The milk provides all the other stuff.

Get ready. The MAC tightens their belt:

Get ready to hear about a lot of cuts that make you think "really?" The gold plating will be the first thing to go. Meanwhile Akron has just cut three sports, which is an economic move more dubious than it's proposed to be on the micro level:

There are a finite amount of students to go around, though.

BONUS ITEM: I know this directly contradicts the facts laid out in the tweet but I assume this was Greg Robinson.

"Greg Robinson didn't take classes at Michigan during his year as defensive coordinator," I hear you say. Is that the hill you want to die on? I'm not dying on that hill. I'm dying on the "Greg Robinson failed a Kinesiology class he was not enrolled in" hill.

You may want to factor in some things. ESPN has a list of the top 40 basketball coaches under 40 which is mostly notable for the baffling selections of Will Wade at #3 and Richard Pitino at #6. Wade was caught on tape discussing a "strong ass offer" to a recruit and is likely to get LSU basketball blown up whenever the NCAA's glacial punishment process finally grinds to a halt; Richard Pitino is where he is because of his last name and has been better than .500 in B10 play once in seven years—the Gophers were an overseeded 5 and promptly got bounced by MTSU.

Most of the list is mid- and low-majors and there are a lot of assistants on it, who seem impossible to judge in any meaningful way. Maybe the problem with the list is that it exists.

USHL draft takes. A couple of guys on hockey's radar draw mention in the Neutral Zone's USHL draft recap. NZ on Chase Pietila, who may be a silent commit:

One of the premier ’04 defenders in the US with a versatile skill set. He’s a tall, long reach, athletic, mobile, multi-dimensional defenseman who makes a crisp first pass, is patient and reads lines rushes well and works to be an outlet for his D partner. He has a maturity to his game, he keeps his hips low on take offs and doesn’t cross his feet when he’s pivoting; a young prospect who is ready to play in this league and has potential to play beyond.

Commit Connor Levis went in the sixth round to Muskegon, which is speculative:

Value Pick: Connor Levis (F, R, 6’1″, 180, Yale Hockey Academy, 10/05/2004, Michigan) -Levis is a former first round pick in the WHL Draft, has stayed loyal thus far to the NCAA route with a verbal commitment to Michigan so drafting him in the 6th round is quite a value for this type of player. He has great size and athleticism, he’s tough and plays an honest north-south game and can finish with an array of shooting talent and power. He’s the type of player who just gets better and better the more he plays.

Levis can always play close to home in the BCHL if he sticks with his Michigan commit.

Neutral Zone also notes that Adam Fantilli is very good at the hockey.

Etc.: Michigan falls in future offense projections on ESPN. Andy Staples on the Harbaugh proposal. Sci-Fi Western Legends of the NCAA by furloughed SB Nation persons like Spencer Hall.

Comments

bronxblue

May 15th, 2020 at 1:58 PM ^

I agree in general that making a bunch of hoops to jump through for guys to have a chance in the NFL draft seems silly, but I can also see how it's a meaningful first step toward universal eligibility to be drafted.  It also does give coaches a bit more warning about which kids might leave; you can never completely trust some dumb GM in the 6th round looking at some backup freshman at Alabama and saying "I'm sure he'll be a star, so let's grab him here" and that messing with recruiting.  Tiny violins and all for the pain aside, having some structure doesn't necessarily hurt.  And I like the idea of the one-time no-questions-asked transfer rule.

Will Wade on any list beyond "likely to be paying legal fees shortly" seems dubious.  And yeah, an assistant coach at Duke feels like a requirement for any such list despite little evidence those guys turn into anything when they don't have Duke's name and bag attached to them.

A lot of schools that are cutting sports were probably going to do it anyway but now have a pretense.  If you're a mid-tier MAC school, you only make money from body-bag games against P5 programs in football, and jettisoning any other sport that cuts into those margins makes sense right now.  It absolutely sucks for everyone involved, but before anyone claims "well, Title IX is screwing over these men's sports", understand a lot of schools wouldn't even field most women's teams if they weren't mandated to do so and they'd still cut wrestling and golf the minute the bottom line slipped.

TrueBlue2003

May 15th, 2020 at 4:57 PM ^

Yeah the three year rule provides a huge amount of security to the Alabama's and OSU's of the college football world. 

But if guys are eligible to enter every year, they're going to do it and then there will be plenty of cases where teams are taking first and second year five star guys that are worth parking on an NFL practice squad for a year or two.

I'm sure this is the appeal for Harbaugh.  It's also a much more player friendly set up.  College players don't always need three years.  Trevor Lawrence and Tua would have been drafted in the first round after their freshman seasons in all likelihood.

Kilgore Trout

May 15th, 2020 at 2:47 PM ^

Considering Eastern has already explored the NBA draft twice, it seems really unlikely that he is going to sit a year and then play at Michigan the following year. I assume this is a play this year or never play at Michigan situation. 

Denard In Space

May 15th, 2020 at 4:29 PM ^

We've all seen crazy draft choices before so far be it from me to say that's not possible, but it would probably be insane for Eastern to try and get drafted without playing more college hoops. The dude is an abysmal shooter, and he's not even close to compensating with other outstanding skills a la Lonzo Ball and passing. 

UP to LA

May 15th, 2020 at 5:08 PM ^

But his stock is lower this year than it was last year. So if he ends up not playing this year (because of ineligibility or otherwise), it wouldn't make sense for him to declare anyway when his stock is at its nadir. People make decisions for all sorts of reasons, but in terms of maximizing his chances to catch on in the NBA, I have to believe he plays at Michigan, even if he sits out a year to do so.

befuggled

May 15th, 2020 at 3:09 PM ^

A guy on that thread about Northwestern classic games:

All of our "classic" games involve us immediately falling behind and leaving you to wonder if someone made a mistake with the game they chose. Would love to see BTN show like an NU 42-7 thrashing of someone, but I don't believe that game exists.

Not entirely true, but pretty damn close. They had a 10-win season in 2015 where they beat a good Stanford team and a 10-win Wisconsin team in Madison and could not manage to score an average of 20 points a game. (Their success that year [2015] was a bit of a mirage, as shown by their three losses, which were all by a minimum of 30 points and include the 38-0 Michigan win. But still.)

UMQuadz05

May 15th, 2020 at 3:12 PM ^

FYI- a lot of "non-revenue" sports actually make money for the school because scholarships are minimal and the students presumably wouldn't be there without the program.  I'm a prof at a mid-major on the east coast; without our "student athletes" playing water polo, field hockey, tennis etc we'd go under a few years. 

Gulogulo37

May 15th, 2020 at 8:50 PM ^

What do you mean the scholarships are minimal? They only pay a fraction of tuition? If you mean very few students get scholarships then you mean the school makes money off the revenue generated? I wouldn't think water polo revenue generates enough to offset coaches, equipment, scholarships, etc. Especially so much that it keeps the university afloat. Lots of mixed use with things locker rooms for multiple sports I'd assume.

Also, it doesn't seem to generate money for Akron. How are they different? 

jmblue

May 15th, 2020 at 9:20 PM ^

Non-revenue athletes generally don’t get full rides.  For baseball, teams have 11.7 scholarships to be divided among rosters of up to 27 players.  So these sports teams result in extra students attending school and paying (some) tuition.

MaizeBlueA2

May 15th, 2020 at 9:55 PM ^

This is a lot more complicated, but I don't think that is true.

Sure you may not be spending a lot on their scholarships (some mid-majors barely have any scholarships for non-revenue sports because of Title IX). 

But after all of the resources put towards their performance and team travel, ticket sales are not making up that difference.

What do you mean the students wouldn't be there without the program? The rest of the student body or the student-athletes in those sports?

 

Quailman

May 18th, 2020 at 1:16 PM ^

He means those student-athletes wouldnt be at that school without the ability to play a sport for them.

He is not saying that the programs can make some money for the school through ticket sales. He is saying that the school is gaining students, who pay tuition (and are actually paying the school because they have little or no scholarships), and the programs don't have huge operating budgets. Therefore, its not costly to run the program, and since they arent coming to free, the school makes money off of tuition and housing.

This is why a lot of D3 and NAIA schools have so many sports, and have so many student-athletes. You can have sports like that and increase enrollment 

oriental andrew

May 15th, 2020 at 4:02 PM ^

Re: NFL draft, biggest hurdles I see with an NHL draft approach are that it would completely change the way the NFL teams plan their rosters (you can draft a player, but if he doesn't show up for 1-2 seasons, that doesn't really help you in the here and now) and that the draft would potentially have to be much larger to account for the kids who stay in school. NHL has a 7 round draft with a roster size of 23. NFL has 7 rounds today with roster size more than double that. I'm suggesting a 14 round draft, but with drafting kids who don't immediately play, would it have to be a bigger draft? Then again, MLB just went from 40 (!) rounds to just 5, so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. 

Re: Hotels for home games, screw that. Just set up a bunch of cots in the team's practice facilities and have them sleep there. Maximum control over the players. Can't guarantee that good night of sleep if there are a bunch of snorers, but I thought hotels before home games were more of a "no distraction, player control" thing than a perk, per se. 

samsoccer7

May 15th, 2020 at 4:28 PM ^

My biggest issue with Brian's draft strategy is with football there is too much variance in high school success and projection to the NFL.  Sure many first rounders are 4 or 5 stars, but consider how many 4 and 5 star prospects there are coming from high school.  I like Harbaugh's plan mostly.

OwenGoBlue

May 15th, 2020 at 6:17 PM ^

Eastern may end up eligible for this coming season via waiver or if he's a few credits shy; Quinn says as much in the piece.

Might be better for Michigan if he sits one/plays one, but this could go either way. 

Rocky Mountain…

May 15th, 2020 at 8:45 PM ^

Some bonafide sleep studies have showed that the first night sleeping in a different room than your regular one produces less sleep. Which in turn produces lower cognitive and physiological performance. 
 

The teams might want to just live in team housing long term due to Covid?

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

May 16th, 2020 at 9:24 AM ^

I don't like draft and follow for football.  It ignores the very different development curves between the two sports.  It's rare that a really good 20-year-old hockey player was not also really good at 18.  But football players have a way of exploding in college.  The list of high draft picks in the NFL that were just guys in the recruiting world is long and distinguished.  As is the list of recruiting busts.  The whole thing would turn the NFL draft into a lucky dartboard.

Which means that the NFL would never, ever roll with it, and Harbaugh's plan is DOA, as is draft-and-follow.  The NFL knows its draft is the behemoth of drafts, precisely because fans know the guy they drafted is going to show up in the fall and immediately improve the team.  Turn the NFL draft into draft-and-follow and watch the ratings - and subsequent interest in the teams themselves - drop off a cliff.

McLeft Shark

May 16th, 2020 at 10:31 PM ^

The Hockey system works better for Basketball types where there is a national circuit of actual games vs camps so you get a better understanding of where kids are skill wise vs. each other.  I think this proposal for Football seems more fair and accurate.